Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby thelaststraw05 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:41 pm

amc987 wrote:
blowhard wrote:
amc987 wrote:
thelaststraw05 wrote:Also Michigan law (as in the law of the state of Michigan) does not allow the use of race in admissions:


This actually isn't accurate. As a result of the SC's decision in Grutter vs. Bollinger, the University of Michigan and other state universities have a compelling interest in admitting a diverse class of law students. Using affirmative action in that context was deemed narrowly tailored to meet that interest. Michigan is allowed to consider race and ethnicity holistically and use those aspects of an applicant's background when they're making decisions. Michigan can't have quotas or give an application an automatic number of additional points just because the applicant is a URM, but they are allowed to weigh race along with lots of other factors when they choose the incoming class. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grutter_v._Bollinger


Michigan amended their state constitution after Grutter to prohibit such consideration. So actually, it's very accurate.


The Michigan Civil Rights Initiative got overturned by the 6th Circuit on appeal in July. Michigan's AG said he's going to appeal that ruling. To be fair, I didn't know that this had happened when I posted my response. But at the very least, the legislation seems to be in some kind of limbo. I'm not sure what that means in terms of admissions, but I don't think it's quite as clear cut as "Michigan can't use race in admissions decisions." Grutter vs. Bollinger on the other hand is federal law and, to my knowledge, has not been overturned. I think the Supreme Court might be hearing arguments on a related affirmative action case next year.


http://www.michigan.gov/ag/0,1607,7-164 ... --,00.html

"The Michigan Civil Rights Initiative will remain in force pending a final decision by the court."

Yes, there are efforts to defeat the amendment to the state constitution by finding it unconstitutional, but the state amendment remains in place during the appeals process. It is, for the moment, that clear cut. Grutter v. Bollinger DOES talk about what is constitutional, but does not talk about state law. Michigan could (and would) take race into account as Michigan Law had prior to the passage of prop 2. As the law currently stands Michigan can't take race into account.

Also, Joe Mo isn't a URM. As he said.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby amc987 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:54 pm

Yeah, my point wasn't related to affirmative action in Joe Mo's case. But I stand corrected. If the statute is still in place, then it's still in place and Michigan won't be considering race in admissions.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby darkgrayclouds » Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:11 pm

Anyone else get an "Oops. Sorry." email because they accidentally put 2011 on your acceptance letter instead of 2012?

"Oops. Sorry" was literally the subject of the email. Scared the crap out of me.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Yeshia90 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:40 pm

darkgrayclouds wrote:Anyone else get an "Oops. Sorry." email because they accidentally put 2011 on your acceptance letter instead of 2012?

"Oops. Sorry" was literally the subject of the email. Scared the crap out of me.



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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby AntipodeanPhil » Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:48 pm

darkgrayclouds wrote:Anyone else get an "Oops. Sorry." email because they accidentally put 2011 on your acceptance letter instead of 2012?

"Oops. Sorry" was literally the subject of the email. Scared the crap out of me.

I got that email, and had exactly the same reaction.

I liked the content of the email - Dean Z. obviously has a great sense of humor.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby operagrl71 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:14 pm

I just got the "oops" e-mail as well, literally thought I was going to stroke out...I hadn't even noticed the 2011 typo, lol.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby AmandaPB » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:16 pm

AntipodeanPhil wrote:
darkgrayclouds wrote:Anyone else get an "Oops. Sorry." email because they accidentally put 2011 on your acceptance letter instead of 2012?

"Oops. Sorry" was literally the subject of the email. Scared the crap out of me.

I got that email, and had exactly the same reaction.

I liked the content of the email - Dean Z. obviously has a great sense of humor.

Haha, that is so funny. I would have freaked out! Dean Z. seems awesome, Michigan is really looking good in my book. It’s weird to think that the list of places I’ll end up next year is actually narrowing down.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby basilseal » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:49 pm

Came home from Thanksgiving to find the packet in the mail! V. pleasant surprise.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Cartman » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:57 pm

JoeMo wrote:
addy11 wrote:
lawgem wrote:Congrats JoeMo!

How did you find out? Wondering when the decision was available to you. I think you are the first Oct LSAT taker to get a response. Are you ED? Hope this is just the beginning of good news for today/tomorrow..... :) Good luck to everyone still waiting!


It's important to note that he's an URM. Seems like at all schools URMs have a different cadence for admission (i.e., Tuesday has a bunch of URMs admitted, then on Thursday and Friday you'll see a bunch of non-URM admits).


I'm not URM. Not sure where you got that from.


You got your status checker on Nov. 10th?! I got mine on the 10th too! Wonder if that mean I'll be getting a decision soon too...

Anyone else who got their checker on the 10th hear back yet?

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby erikjc » Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:05 pm

Cartman wrote:
You got your status checker on Nov. 10th?! I got mine on the 10th too! Wonder if that mean I'll be getting a decision soon too...

Anyone else who got their checker on the 10th hear back yet?


Nothing here.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby azgirl514 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:14 pm

darkgrayclouds wrote:Anyone else get an "Oops. Sorry." email because they accidentally put 2011 on your acceptance letter instead of 2012?

"Oops. Sorry" was literally the subject of the email. Scared the crap out of me.


Oh my gosh, me too! I saw the email in my inbox and almost had a heart attack. I hadn't noticed the 2011 error (I am away for Thanksgiving weekend and haven't returned yet) and only knew about my acceptance through the ASW. I saw the message and was like, "I KNEW I should have waited for the official package before being so happy!" I thought she was going to say that she accidentally gave me access but I hadn't been admitted yet. It was a great email, though... I love their sense of humor. And I'm relieved that I'm in for sure!

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby tdicks » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:31 am

Campagnolo wrote: They only send out status checkers on Tuesdays. If you don't get one tomorrow, you could call on Wednesday, but honestly, they'll get to you.


is this true? if so, i really hope i have mine by the time i wake up tomorrow (china time). i know a status checker won't help me be less obsessive about my application, but until i get it i'm going to be convinced my app fell behind a desk.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby elibrarian » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:38 am

basilseal wrote:Came home from Thanksgiving to find the packet in the mail! V. pleasant surprise.


So. Jelly.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby thestillpoint » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:24 am

tdicks wrote:
Campagnolo wrote: They only send out status checkers on Tuesdays. If you don't get one tomorrow, you could call on Wednesday, but honestly, they'll get to you.


is this true? if so, i really hope i have mine by the time i wake up tomorrow (china time). i know a status checker won't help me be less obsessive about my application, but until i get it i'm going to be convinced my app fell behind a desk.


I know this is true for NYU, I hadn't noticed that same pattern for Mich? If the above posters got theirs on Nov. 10th, then that's a Thursday-- so I'm not sure that Michigan sends them out only on Tuesdays.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby basilseal » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:20 am

elibrarian wrote:
basilseal wrote:Came home from Thanksgiving to find the packet in the mail! V. pleasant surprise.


So. Jelly.

It makes me feel a little better about not hearing from UVA yet :wink:

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby JoeMo » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:21 am

FWIW, I don't think there will be too many regular decision people hearing within the next couple of weeks. It sounds like they're trying to clear the ED pool.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby elibrarian » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:29 am

basilseal wrote:
elibrarian wrote:
basilseal wrote:Came home from Thanksgiving to find the packet in the mail! V. pleasant surprise.


So. Jelly.

It makes me feel a little better about not hearing from UVA yet :wink:


Oh that was weeks ago! I need at least one acceptance a month not to feel inadequate. :)

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sandwiches5000 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:48 am

JoeMo wrote:FWIW, I don't think there will be too many regular decision people hearing within the next couple of weeks. It sounds like they're trying to clear the ED pool.


+1... Looking at last year's chart it seems they sent out ED acceptances this week-next week and then went back the RD pool.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby potl » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:28 pm

Edit: I see what you mean. The chart from the OP shows a dip in the green and an apex on the dark blue for November week 4.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby ScrabbleChamp » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:10 pm

Anyone have 11/28/2011 as the last update date, still? I'm showing page last updated as 11/29/2011 in the lower left corner, but the date on the status checker as 11/28/2011.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby thelawschoolproject » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:12 pm

ScrabbleChamp wrote:Anyone have 11/28/2011 as the last update date, still? I'm showing page last updated as 11/29/2011 in the lower left corner, but the date on the status checker as 11/28/2011.



You are very, very observant, sir.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:35 pm

Doesn't the status change almost everyday? I don't think it means anything necessarily

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby T00L » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:39 pm

sandwiches5000 wrote:
JoeMo wrote:FWIW, I don't think there will be too many regular decision people hearing within the next couple of weeks. It sounds like they're trying to clear the ED pool.


+1... Looking at last year's chart it seems they sent out ED acceptances this week-next week and then went back the RD pool.


I can't wait any longer....feeling sick about not hearing back.

SUB 9/15. Numbers good.

Weak

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Hawkeye Pierce » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:41 pm

T00L wrote:
sandwiches5000 wrote:
JoeMo wrote:FWIW, I don't think there will be too many regular decision people hearing within the next couple of weeks. It sounds like they're trying to clear the ED pool.


+1... Looking at last year's chart it seems they sent out ED acceptances this week-next week and then went back the RD pool.


I can't wait any longer....feeling sick about not hearing back.

SUB 9/15. Numbers good.

Weak


Eh, I'm just going to forget about Mich now. I'll just wait for something in the mail.

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Re: Michigan c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby elibrarian » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:44 pm

Hawkeye Pierce wrote:
T00L wrote:
sandwiches5000 wrote:
JoeMo wrote:FWIW, I don't think there will be too many regular decision people hearing within the next couple of weeks. It sounds like they're trying to clear the ED pool.


+1... Looking at last year's chart it seems they sent out ED acceptances this week-next week and then went back the RD pool.


I can't wait any longer....feeling sick about not hearing back.

SUB 9/15. Numbers good.

Weak


Eh, I'm just going to forget about Mich now. I'll just wait for something in the mail.


Yep. I stopped checking ASW a few days ago though I'm still hoping my file fell on the floor and is currently being reveiwed/accepted.




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