UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sfreuden » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:00 pm

Cavgirl wrote:That graph is a bloody massacre. Jesus.


Yeah, I'm pretty scared. With my numbers, probably an auto-waitlist.

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Yeshia90 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:08 pm

luxxe wrote:
Yeshia90 wrote:
sdwhodat wrote:
Real Madrid wrote:

That's probably a safe bet. UVA waitlists people like nobody's business. If your numbers are too low: waitlist (they seem to like soft rejections). If your numbers are too high: waitlist (they love yield protecting). If your numbers are just right (and you write a good "Why UVA?") you might avoid it.

Love UVA. Hate their waitlist policies.


Wait, how high is too high? I don't want to be waitlisted because my LSAT is 2 points higher than the median :( I applied 9/18 with a 172 LSAT and 3.93 GPA. Anyone know UVA's policy on scholarships? (also, why are financial aid websites so vague?)


http://uva.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1011


That graph is so terrible to look at oh my god.


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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby luxxe » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:09 pm

Hot damn, they accepted 163/3.89, 165/3.93 this year ED already, and 4/166, 4/167, 3.96/165, 3.95/165, 3.8/165 ED last year.

Guuuuuess I know where I will be ED-ing if I bomb the LSAT.

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sfreuden » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:12 pm

luxxe wrote:Hot damn, they accepted 163/3.89, 165/3.93 this year ED already, and 4/166, 4/167, 3.96/165, 3.95/165, 3.8/165 ED last year.

Guuuuuess I know where I will be ED-ing if I bomb the LSAT.


Hmm...is UVa the most reverse splitter-friendly T14? At least if you ED?

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:14 pm

sfreuden wrote:
luxxe wrote:Hot damn, they accepted 163/3.89, 165/3.93 this year ED already, and 4/166, 4/167, 3.96/165, 3.95/165, 3.8/165 ED last year.

Guuuuuess I know where I will be ED-ing if I bomb the LSAT.


Hmm...is UVa the most reverse splitter-friendly T14? At least if you ED?


Certainly the most formulaic. Get above the 3.85 GPA median and put up a decent LSAT score in the mid 160's and you are a lock through ED.

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sfreuden » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:16 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
sfreuden wrote:
luxxe wrote:Hot damn, they accepted 163/3.89, 165/3.93 this year ED already, and 4/166, 4/167, 3.96/165, 3.95/165, 3.8/165 ED last year.

Guuuuuess I know where I will be ED-ing if I bomb the LSAT.


Hmm...is UVa the most reverse splitter-friendly T14? At least if you ED?


Certainly the most formulaic. Get above the 3.85 GPA median and put up a decent LSAT score in the mid 160's and you are a lock through ED.


Interesting. Not applicable to my situation, but interesting. What about traditional splitters? There didn't seem to be much love on that graph...

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby luxxe » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:20 pm

sfreuden wrote:
luxxe wrote:Hot damn, they accepted 163/3.89, 165/3.93 this year ED already, and 4/166, 4/167, 3.96/165, 3.95/165, 3.8/165 ED last year.

Guuuuuess I know where I will be ED-ing if I bomb the LSAT.


Hmm...is UVa the most reverse splitter-friendly T14? At least if you ED?


I haven't taken the LSAT yet but fearing the worst and having a 4.0 I have spent a lot of time on this very issue... with scores THAT low, yes.

Assuming high-160s & a 4+, Cornell, Georgetown, & Duke give you a good chance, though the floor seems to be at 167, and Chicago accepted almost everyone with a 4.0+ 168/169 last year on LSN.

I'm ignoring schools on the west coast that love GPAs because I am never moving west of Chicago (and really don't even like it there that much). East coast forever!

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Blessedassurance » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:20 pm

gatorapplicant wrote:
gatorapplicant wrote:I submitted my ED app on 9/7 and it was complete on 9/8. I haven't heard anything from UVA yet and I'm getting a little antsy, especially since many other applicants are hearing back within a week. Has anyone else been waiting for an ED decision this long? (With 166/3.82, UVA is most definitely a reach school for me.)


got rejected by email this morning, sigh. it was a big reach for me so i'm not surprised. good luck to everyone else applying!


Were you waitlisted/deferred or outright rejected?

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:20 pm

sfreuden wrote:
Interesting. Not applicable to my situation, but interesting. What about traditional splitters? There didn't seem to be much love on that graph...


Actually it's even better for traditional splitters, but mainly because the LSAT score is a lot more controllable than the GPA for most applicants. In other words, if you have a low GPA, just make yourself into a splitter and a top 10 school is within reach.

They do seem to have a 3.0 GPA floor, but "hit that 170 median, apply ED and enjoy Charlottesville" is a common refrain on these boards.

Here are all the ED candidates from last year:

http://uva.lawschoolnumbers.com/applica ... =3&type=jd

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sfreuden » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:22 pm

luxxe wrote:
sfreuden wrote:
luxxe wrote:Hot damn, they accepted 163/3.89, 165/3.93 this year ED already, and 4/166, 4/167, 3.96/165, 3.95/165, 3.8/165 ED last year.

Guuuuuess I know where I will be ED-ing if I bomb the LSAT.


Hmm...is UVa the most reverse splitter-friendly T14? At least if you ED?


I haven't taken the LSAT yet but fearing the worst and having a 4.0 I have spent a lot of time on this very issue... with scores THAT low, yes.

Assuming high-160s & a 4+, Cornell, Georgetown, & Duke give you a good chance, though the floor seems to be at 167, and Chicago accepted almost everyone with a 4.0+ 168/169 last year on LSN.

I'm ignoring schools on the west coast that love GPAs because I am never moving west of Chicago (and really don't even like it there that much). East coast forever!


Good luck on your LSAT! October, I'm assuming? I'll be rooting for you to get a 173+ and thus HYS. That GPA is amazing. ^^

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sfreuden » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:24 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
sfreuden wrote:
Interesting. Not applicable to my situation, but interesting. What about traditional splitters? There didn't seem to be much love on that graph...


Actually it's even better for traditional splitters, but mainly because the LSAT score is a lot more controllable than the GPA for most applicants. In other words, if you have a low GPA, just make yourself into a splitter and a top 10 school is within reach.

They do seem to have a 3.0 GPA floor, but "hit that 170 median, apply ED and enjoy Charlottesville" is a common refrain on these boards.

Here are all the ED candidates from last year:

http://uva.lawschoolnumbers.com/applica ... =3&type=jd


Good to know. Thanks.

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby luxxe » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:31 pm

sfreuden wrote:Good luck on your LSAT! October, I'm assuming? I'll be rooting for you to get a 173+ and thus HYS. That GPA is amazing. ^^


Yes, thank you :D. With your 180/3.7 you are wasting your time in this thread!

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:34 pm

luxxe wrote:
sfreuden wrote:Good luck on your LSAT! October, I'm assuming? I'll be rooting for you to get a 173+ and thus HYS. That GPA is amazing. ^^


Yes, thank you :D. With your 180/3.7 you are wasting your time in this thread!


Wow didn't see those numbers.

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sfreuden » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:36 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
luxxe wrote:
sfreuden wrote:Good luck on your LSAT! October, I'm assuming? I'll be rooting for you to get a 173+ and thus HYS. That GPA is amazing. ^^


Yes, thank you :D. With your 180/3.7 you are wasting your time in this thread!


Wow didn't see those numbers.

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I'm... not really sure how to respond to that, lol.

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby UnamSanctam » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:41 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
luxxe wrote:
sfreuden wrote:Good luck on your LSAT! October, I'm assuming? I'll be rooting for you to get a 173+ and thus HYS. That GPA is amazing. ^^


Yes, thank you :D. With your 180/3.7 you are wasting your time in this thread!


Wow didn't see those numbers.

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+1. I would do dirty, dirty things for your numbers (or Tiago's, even).

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby luxxe » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:45 pm

UnamSanctam wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
luxxe wrote:
sfreuden wrote:Good luck on your LSAT! October, I'm assuming? I'll be rooting for you to get a 173+ and thus HYS. That GPA is amazing. ^^


Yes, thank you :D. With your 180/3.7 you are wasting your time in this thread!


Wow didn't see those numbers.

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+1. I would do dirty, dirty things for your numbers (or Tiago's, even).


Emphatically co-signing that.

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Yeshia90 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:03 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:
luxxe wrote:
sfreuden wrote:Good luck on your LSAT! October, I'm assuming? I'll be rooting for you to get a 173+ and thus HYS. That GPA is amazing. ^^


Yes, thank you :D. With your 180/3.7 you are wasting your time in this thread!


Wow didn't see those numbers.

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Yeah, screw you. Go chill in the Yale Applicants thread.

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby UnamSanctam » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:06 am

Let's quote the Wayne's World image some more.

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sfreuden » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:08 am

Yeshia90 wrote: Yeah, screw you. Go chill in the Yale Applicants thread.


No :D to indicate joking? But seriously, Yale has a 3.8 GPA floor... And UVa is a great school. :)

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sdwhodat » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:54 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:
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This pic makes you full of win.

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby annyong » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:10 am

ThomasMN wrote:
sdwhodat wrote:
Real Madrid wrote:
PSUdevon wrote:$20 says I get waitlisted.



That's probably a safe bet. UVA waitlists people like nobody's business. If your numbers are too low: waitlist (they seem to like soft rejections). If your numbers are too high: waitlist (they love yield protecting). If your numbers are just right (and you write a good "Why UVA?") you might avoid it.

Love UVA. Hate their waitlist policies.


Wait, how high is too high? I don't want to be waitlisted because my LSAT is 2 points higher than the median :( I applied 9/18 with a 172 LSAT and 3.93 GPA. Anyone know UVA's policy on scholarships? (also, why are financial aid websites so vague?)


Just write a strong "Why UVA" essay and I am sure that you are in the clear.

If a strong "Why UVA" is enough to combat the YP, then why is that graph so terrifyingly smattered with yellow? Did that many people just not write Why UVA essays?

I've written a Why Virginia, but I feel like I'm destined for the waitlist....

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MumofCad » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:43 am

annyong wrote:If a strong "Why UVA" is enough to combat the YP, then why is that graph so terrifyingly smattered with yellow? Did that many people just not write Why UVA essays?

I've written a Why Virginia, but I feel like I'm destined for the waitlist....


We can't be sure, but a why v def shows serious interest over someone submitting their Harvard app for review. I am sure they don't want to turn away candidates with great numbers that actually want to go there. There isn't really any other way to differentiate between equal candidates other than a few going the extra mile for the school.

Not sure too if they consider how compelling the why UVA is versus just if its written. I would think a short paragraph tagged onto the end of a PS with very little depth probably isn't worth the same amount as a Why UVA that expresses a proven commitment to the area and connection to specific programs/research or what not.

I had YP numbers - I wrote "why" statements for all the schools I applied to that might YP me except one. I had a friend proof them and they felt of the 3, my UVA one was the most compelling, most probably because I've lived in the area for awhile (though not in Virginia) and they have some programs that dovetail nicely with my past experience (besides Yale, I'm leaning toward these 3 schools if they give me money so it was very important to me to prove it to them). It did the trick at UVA and we'll see how the less compelling ones serve me at the other schools. I put one app in without a "why" statement at a school that could YP me out of curiosity. A $16 experiment. It'd be a pretty big coincidence for me to get into the other 3 and not that 1, since the apps are otherwise identical unless the why statement were important.

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Tiago Splitter » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:12 am

annyong wrote:If a strong "Why UVA" is enough to combat the YP, then why is that graph so terrifyingly smattered with yellow? Did that many people just not write Why UVA essays?

I've written a Why Virginia, but I feel like I'm destined for the waitlist....


40% in-state quota + dozens upon dozens of ED admits= Very little room for everyone else.

I'm sure a lot of the yellow people wrote the Why UVA essay. I think the school looks for unique commitment in the essay while also focusing their non in-state, non ED, efforts on people just above both medians (think 171-172, 3.85-4.0). Get too much higher than that and they know you are bound for HYS (or CCN with money) and won't waste their time.

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Re: UVA c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sangr » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:48 pm

just wondering then. (taking into account the 40% quota)

anyone know the percentage or raw number of qualified/overqualified VA resident who apply for UVA? are there THAT many people with 170s and 3.7 and up in VA?

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