amc987 wrote: so_fetch wrote:
thank you for the encouraging words. I actually had a question about that - so the consensus is that you are a "splitter" if your GPA is at or below the 25% and LSAT is at or above the 75%. By this logic, wouldn't an application to Berkeley seem like a good shot for someone like me, even though by traditional knowledge Berkeley is very grade-heavy? I feel like there is some logic to saying that the people with higher LSAT medians are actually more likely to accept me, since it should indicate that they place a greater emphasis on the LSAT.
I do see your point in the last sentence. I guess I was thinking, why would a school be willing to accept your GPA (which is dragging them down statistically) unless your LSAT is going to really bring them up statistically? I agree this theory would put Berkeley in range for you. The question is: Who makes up that bottom 25% for GPA? is it people with 170s or people with 178s? maybe some URMs as well? Who knows? That's why I think you should stay positive, because no one really knows who will be a part of that lower 25%. I have a similar situation at, for example, harvard, where I am at/above 75% gpa but below 25% lsat. Could I be part of the 25% lsat? Maybe. we shall see. who knows! disclaimer: i am a lot more positive than the general TLS population so take this all with a grain of salt
Your optimism is refreshing, so_fetch. You give me hope. In other news, I think that I am in the RD batch that will hear from UVA no sooner than January.
Maybe they'll have lots of good news to disperse at that time?! Because goodness knows they've held enough people's applications to this point.
Just to add to the optimism, in the case of HLS, where the incoming class is something like 500, that leaves 125 accepted applicants with at least one number below the 25% for each of the statistics. Whether that is a 170 or a 162 doesn't affect the median range, so long as there are 375 above that number. So I would have to guess that at that point, schools will assess whether you can a) contribute something substantially worthwhile to the incoming class, and b) if your numbers indicate that you can succeed at said school. The difference between a 169 and a 173 is 4-5 questions on the LSAT, a.k.a. the difference between a good and bad day, so I don't think they can discount an applicant on my case b just because you fall a few points below their median.
And, obviously that doesn't mean that there are 125 applicants below both medians. But 125 is not an insignificant number for a population of people that would typically get told, especially on TLS, that they are auto dings because they arent above both medians.
If I knew the UVA incoming class size off hand I would have used those numbers, so I apologize for the specificity of my exampble being in the wrong place. But I trust everyones ability to do math, at least on the level required to figure out the specifics in UVAs case.