whybother wrote:Any point of applying if I have a 162/3.5? I have a graduate degree and significant work experience, which also translated in a solid personal statement. I am from Philadelphia; I have lived and worked here my entire life. I have a strong optional 5 year plan that incorporates the interdisciplinary focus and Graduate School of Education dual degree opportunity to my future career plans for special education law and the School District of Philadelphia. The LSAT retake was not so great, and there is no point doing a third in December given my current work commitments. I am applying ED as well. I really doubt this changes my position given my numbers and the rigidity of admissions standards, especially within the T14.
Unless you're, a URM, no. Without crazy good softs, you don't have a shot without a 170+ LSAT.
Heavenwood, I think this forum works well because people give frank, honest opinions.. but I disagree with your assertion that unless you are an URM and/or have crazy good softs, you "don't have a shot" with below 170. Penn's 25% LSAT is 166. How can you say you don't have a shot if you are under 170? Just offering my frank , honest opinion. And I have a 169 LSAT score so I am admittedly probably a little biased.
Also, I think that whybother does have really good softs for Penn specifically. And just in general. This sounds like the exact situation that ED is intended for. It's your first choice, your interests and goals fit perfectly with what the school offers, you are from the area, and... maybe you would not get in without the ED commitment. So maybe you will get rejected or waitlisted, who knows. But let the admissions committee make that decision for you, not people on TLS. Apply to a wide range of schools and apply to Penn as ED. It's gonna cost you just around $100 to apply, assuming you do not have a fee waiver.
I see this is your first post... as you can see, I have not posted too much either, but I have read a lot on TLS. Again no offense to heavenwood... he/she is just giving their opinion... but do not get too wrapped up with what people tell you here. You can get a ton of really useful info here, but at the end of the day it's your life and your decisions so don't be afraid to NOT follow what someone here tells you. Including what I am saying too