Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Mr. Somebody » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:56 pm

There's already non-URM's who have gotten in with a sub-3.5 so I wouldn't call it a barrier...

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Magnifique1908 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:57 pm

I'm under committee review...hmmm...prob not a good sign as my first review :(

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby lawschool899 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:01 pm

Under Committee Review, Complete 12/7.

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby cogitoergosum » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:20 pm

Mr. Somebody wrote:There's already non-URM's who have gotten in with a sub-3.5 so I wouldn't call it a barrier...

Yeah, looking at past years' LSN graphs, they really don't look all that GPA-heavy... If anything, they look more LSAT heavy to me. I'm no expert, and am just going by the imperfect and incomplete LSN data, but they don't look TOO bad for high LSAT low GPA splitters...

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jpal13 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:21 pm

12/19 UR stuck
Slightly below 3.8
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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:22 pm

cogitoergosum wrote:
Mr. Somebody wrote:There's already non-URM's who have gotten in with a sub-3.5 so I wouldn't call it a barrier...

Yeah, looking at past years' LSN graphs, they really don't look all that GPA-heavy... If anything, they look more LSAT heavy to me. I'm no expert, and am just going by the imperfect and incomplete LSN data, but they don't look TOO bad for high LSAT low GPA splitters...


I think I also saw a non URM with a 166, 3.9 get in

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby cogitoergosum » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:22 pm

msblaw89 wrote:
cogitoergosum wrote:
Mr. Somebody wrote:There's already non-URM's who have gotten in with a sub-3.5 so I wouldn't call it a barrier...

Yeah, looking at past years' LSN graphs, they really don't look all that GPA-heavy... If anything, they look more LSAT heavy to me. I'm no expert, and am just going by the imperfect and incomplete LSN data, but they don't look TOO bad for high LSAT low GPA splitters...


I think I also saw a non URM with a 166, 3.9 get in

That bodes well for you my friend :)

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Samara » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:23 pm

cogitoergosum wrote:
Mr. Somebody wrote:There's already non-URM's who have gotten in with a sub-3.5 so I wouldn't call it a barrier...

Yeah, looking at past years' LSN graphs, they really don't look all that GPA-heavy... If anything, they look more LSAT heavy to me. I'm no expert, and am just going by the imperfect and incomplete LSN data, but they don't look TOO bad for high LSAT low GPA splitters...

Yeah, they're about even, but they do have a high GPA median, so maybe slightly towards GPA.

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby dakure » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:23 pm

Penn is notoriously GPA stingy for ED. They use the high GPA ED's they accept to balance out splitters from their RD pool.

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby snehpets » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:24 pm

jpal13 wrote:12/19 UR stuck
Slightly below 3.8
171
4.0 when I got my MBA from no name school
Work experience

Please TLS give me some idea of what I can expect. I feel like a solid waitlist.

If I don't go to Penn my partner will have to leave a Good job. I should have put that in my why penn but I didn't.


You should submit a Why Penn or LOCI (if they accept that) now explaining how much you want penn, the thing about the job. There's no reason you should be waitlisted except YP (or if you have something weird wrong with your app).

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby cogitoergosum » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:26 pm

dakure wrote:Penn is notoriously GPA stingy for ED. They use the high GPA ED's they accept to balance out splitters from their RD pool.

Okay, this makes sense...

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:26 pm

cogitoergosum wrote:
msblaw89 wrote:
cogitoergosum wrote:
Mr. Somebody wrote:There's already non-URM's who have gotten in with a sub-3.5 so I wouldn't call it a barrier...

Yeah, looking at past years' LSN graphs, they really don't look all that GPA-heavy... If anything, they look more LSAT heavy to me. I'm no expert, and am just going by the imperfect and incomplete LSN data, but they don't look TOO bad for high LSAT low GPA splitters...


I think I also saw a non URM with a 166, 3.9 get in

That bodes well for you my friend :)


Hopefully, then again there was only ONE person with stats like that

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Campagnolo » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:30 pm

addy11 wrote:And yeah, Camp. We all wish we had. In the words of the great Omar Little: "The game's out there, and it's play or get played. That simple."


"Indeed."

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jpal13 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:45 pm

snehpets wrote:
jpal13 wrote:12/19 UR stuck
Slightly below 3.8
171
4.0 when I got my MBA from no name school
Work experience

Please TLS give me some idea of what I can expect. I feel like a solid waitlist.

If I don't go to Penn my partner will have to leave a Good job. I should have put that in my why penn but I didn't.


You should submit a Why Penn or LOCI (if they accept that) now explaining how much you want penn, the thing about the job. There's no reason you should be waitlisted except YP (or if you have something weird wrong with your app).



An LOCI before I even get a decision? I did a why penn just didn't include that factor

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jpal13 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:47 pm

dakure wrote:Penn is notoriously GPA stingy for ED. They use the high GPA ED's they accept to balance out splitters from their RD pool.


From LSN this year it looks like they did the opposite.

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby clarion » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:46 pm

Finallyyy under committee review for the first time after being complete since 11/11

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby justicefishy » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:49 pm

clarion wrote:Finallyyy under committee review for the first time after being complete since 11/11


+1 to this. 11/22 complete, finally getting looked at, for better or worse.

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby gloriouscause » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:28 pm

justicefishy wrote:
clarion wrote:Finallyyy under committee review for the first time after being complete since 11/11


+1 to this. 11/22 complete, finally getting looked at, for better or worse.


Good, I am not alone. 11/7 complete.

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby iamrobk » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:28 pm

dakure wrote:Penn is notoriously GPA stingy for ED. They use the high GPA ED's they accept to balance out splitters from their RD pool.

This really isn't true at all. Their ED formula is basically 3.3+ 170+ and you're in.

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby bmore » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:32 pm

jpal13 wrote:
snehpets wrote:
jpal13 wrote:12/19 UR stuck
Slightly below 3.8
171
4.0 when I got my MBA from no name school
Work experience

Please TLS give me some idea of what I can expect. I feel like a solid waitlist.

If I don't go to Penn my partner will have to leave a Good job. I should have put that in my why penn but I didn't.


You should submit a Why Penn or LOCI (if they accept that) now explaining how much you want penn, the thing about the job. There's no reason you should be waitlisted except YP (or if you have something weird wrong with your app).



An LOCI before I even get a decision? I did a why penn just didn't include that factor


You can't do a LOCI if they reject you, can you?

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:37 pm

bmore wrote:
jpal13 wrote:
snehpets wrote:
jpal13 wrote:12/19 UR stuck
Slightly below 3.8
171
4.0 when I got my MBA from no name school
Work experience

Please TLS give me some idea of what I can expect. I feel like a solid waitlist.

If I don't go to Penn my partner will have to leave a Good job. I should have put that in my why penn but I didn't.


You should submit a Why Penn or LOCI (if they accept that) now explaining how much you want penn, the thing about the job. There's no reason you should be waitlisted except YP (or if you have something weird wrong with your app).


Not unless you substantially improve your LSAT in February or something like that

An LOCI before I even get a decision? I did a why penn just didn't include that factor


You can't do a LOCI if they reject you, can you?

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby JustE » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:39 pm

msblaw89 wrote:You can't do a LOCI if they reject you, can you?

No.

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Nelson » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:39 pm

jpal13 wrote:An LOCI before I even get a decision? I did a why penn just didn't include that factor

I'm going to go against what others are saying and say to save your LOCI for when you actually get waitlisted. You're not going to get dinged so that's not a factor and Penn is really slow so you don't even know if you're getting WLed yet.

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Hopeful13 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:40 pm

New to this site. Just wondering my chances.

3.91 GPA 178 LSAT

But wasn't Penn specific in my essay- will this hurt?

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Re: Penn c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby JustE » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:42 pm

Nelson wrote:
jpal13 wrote:An LOCI before I even get a decision? I did a why penn just didn't include that factor

I'm going to go against what others are saying and say to save your LOCI for when you actually get waitlisted. You're not going to get dinged so that's not a factor and Penn is really slow so you don't even know if you're getting WLed yet.


Errr... I would normally agree with this... But someone who was confident they were going to be WL'd at UVA sent one in and got an acceptance shortly after... If you're really interested and have enough material to write an additional LOCI, I don't think this one could hurt.

I speak as someone who rode out the Michigan, Duke, GULC, and NU waitlists last year (obviously I didn't get in). If there's any way to keep yourself off a waitlist, do it.




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