Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby suspicious android » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:30 pm

EMZE wrote:Something else I wanted to comment on was that CLS mentioned in the deferral letter that this years early decision applicant pool has been stronger than ever before. Though the program doesn't exactly have some decades long history from which to really draw great statistics from, it would seem to run counter to all the expectations that this would be the most generous cycle since the downturn of the legal market/LSAT takers. I've tried to make the leap in my mind as to what would cause that, what with all the strange and out of range (typically at the lower end) acceptances we have seen from other schools that would make this the case at CLS. Maybe more people feel they have a shot and are ED'ng to Columbia, whereas in other circumstances they would have ED'd somewhere in the MPV range?


Tough break man, I'm sure my deferral is in the queue.

About the letter saying that this year's (ED) applicant pool is stronger than ever, every school says that every year. I really don't think I've ever seen a rejection letter that didn't say that. It might even be true this year (your theory about people taking a gamble hoping this year's applicant pool might be soft definitely applies to me), but they're always gonna talk about how strong the applicant pool is.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Tiago Splitter » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:32 pm

suspicious android wrote:
EMZE wrote:Something else I wanted to comment on was that CLS mentioned in the deferral letter that this years early decision applicant pool has been stronger than ever before. Though the program doesn't exactly have some decades long history from which to really draw great statistics from, it would seem to run counter to all the expectations that this would be the most generous cycle since the downturn of the legal market/LSAT takers. I've tried to make the leap in my mind as to what would cause that, what with all the strange and out of range (typically at the lower end) acceptances we have seen from other schools that would make this the case at CLS. Maybe more people feel they have a shot and are ED'ng to Columbia, whereas in other circumstances they would have ED'd somewhere in the MPV range?


Tough break man, I'm sure my deferral is in the queue.

About the letter saying that this year's (ED) applicant pool is stronger than ever, every school says that every year. I really don't think I've ever seen a rejection letter that didn't say that. It might even be true this year (your theory about people taking a gamble hoping this year's applicant pool might be soft definitely applies to me), but they're always gonna talk about how strong the applicant pool is.


They actually told KevinP they expect more than 9,000 apps this year. Last year it was down around 8,000. Hopefully CLS is just estimating high and will be forced to correct later on in the cycle.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby suspicious android » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:48 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
They actually told KevinP they expect more than 9,000 apps this year. Last year it was down around 8,000. Hopefully CLS is just estimating high and will be forced to correct later on in the cycle.


Would help explain why they're taking six weeks to make a decision. Sorta.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Themaddh » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:31 pm

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Elendil » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:33 pm

Themaddh wrote:In today! Fall grades request sent them in this past thursday. 173/3.82

So pumped!!!!!


Congratulations!!! ED or RD?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby snehpets » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:34 pm

Themaddh wrote:In today! Fall grades request sent them in this past thursday. 173/3.82

So pumped!!!!!


Congrats! Guess the request was a good thing!

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby username08 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:53 pm

Themaddh wrote:In today! Fall grades request sent them in this past thursday. 173/3.82

So pumped!!!!!


Wow, congrats!

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby freestallion » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:59 pm

Themaddh wrote:In today! Fall grades request sent them in this past thursday. 173/3.82

So pumped!!!!!

Congrats! You didn't have to do ED though- you would have definitely gotten in RD (and possibly into HYS too) with those numbers!

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby AmandaPB » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:00 pm

freestallion wrote:
Themaddh wrote:In today! Fall grades request sent them in this past thursday. 173/3.82

So pumped!!!!!

Congrats! You didn't have to do ED though- you would have definitely gotten in RD (and possibly into HYS too) with those numbers!

No need to make people regret their decisions.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby freestallion » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:05 pm

AmandaPB wrote:
freestallion wrote:
Themaddh wrote:In today! Fall grades request sent them in this past thursday. 173/3.82

So pumped!!!!!

Congrats! You didn't have to do ED though- you would have definitely gotten in RD (and possibly into HYS too) with those numbers!

No need to make people regret their decisions.

Ahh, sorry, that was not my intention. Columbia is a great choice to ED and a great school.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Themaddh » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:12 pm

Thanks everyone! Columbia was always my number 1 from the get go so I couldn't be more thrilled.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby username08 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:03 pm

Oookay, I'm assuming tomorrow is finally the day the last remaining batch of us EDers will hear back, so congrats to those who got in today, and good luck to the remaining EDers as well as all of the RD applicants!

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby nametaken » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:07 pm

Themaddh wrote:Thanks everyone! Columbia was always my number 1 from the get go so I couldn't be more thrilled.



Congrats! And good luck to the rest of the EDers! I can't wait for the RD decisions to start rolling in.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby amc987 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:09 pm

nametaken wrote:Congrats! And good luck to the rest of the EDers! I can't wait for the RD decisions to start rolling in.


+1. End of January at the earliest seems to be the consensus for this, right? RDers probably won't hear anything before then?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Nelson » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:11 pm

amc987 wrote:
nametaken wrote:Congrats! And good luck to the rest of the EDers! I can't wait for the RD decisions to start rolling in.


+1. End of January at the earliest seems to be the consensus for this, right? RDers probably won't hear anything before then?

Unless this is radically different from all previous cycles, the last week of January seems most likely.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby chasgoose » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:14 pm

Nelson wrote:
amc987 wrote:
nametaken wrote:Congrats! And good luck to the rest of the EDers! I can't wait for the RD decisions to start rolling in.


+1. End of January at the earliest seems to be the consensus for this, right? RDers probably won't hear anything before then?

Unless this is radically different from all previous cycles, the last week of January seems most likely.


Yeah and pretty much anyone who has their app in by the December LSAT score release date will be considered for that first wave of VCEs

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby KevinP » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:56 pm

Suspicious Android, I'm surprised you haven't heard back yet.

Tiago Splitter wrote:They actually told KevinP they expect more than 9,000 apps this year. Last year it was down around 8,000. Hopefully CLS is just estimating high and will be forced to correct later on in the cycle.

Almost my friend; they actually told me 8,000, and they had 7,459 applications last year. I don't know if they said they had the strongest application pool, but among the strongest, which doesn't tell us much. Here's the direct quote:
"This year’s Early Decision applicant pool was among the most highly qualified in the history of the program.
Thus, competition for early admission was again exceptionally keen this year. We anticipate
that, altogether, almost 8,000 candidates will apply."

Considering December had a ~14 percent decrease in test takers from 42k to 36k, and --Nationally, "as of Nov. 25, applicants to law school were down 16.3 percent," said Wendy Margolis, director of communications for LSAC. "Last year at that time, roughly 25 percent of the applicant count was in."--*, I would expect ~6.5k apps for Columbia.


*http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/News-Extra/SCHOOLS-jc12232011.aspx

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Tiago Splitter » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:14 pm

I liked my story better Kevin. But thanks for those numbers. Facts always screw me up.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Kbarbosa08 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:11 pm

Deferred today. 173/3.9 as many have said I will be kicking myself if I don't get into nyu rd since I definitely want to go to school in NYC. Pretty much no hope for an acceptance from Columbia as previous years indicate :( good luck to everyone still waiting and congrats to those already in!

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby suspicious android » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:12 pm

Where the hell is my deferall??

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Near » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:14 pm

Kbarbosa08 wrote:Deferred today. 173/3.9 as many have said I will be kicking myself if I don't get into nyu rd since I definitely want to go to school in NYC. Pretty much no hope for an acceptance from Columbia as previous years indicate :( good luck to everyone still waiting and congrats to those already in!

Wow, surprising with your numbers. Columbia's admitted what, 10 people?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby EMZE » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:19 pm

So, since is it really APRIL when they review our applications again? Isn't that pretty much at or near many other schools deadlines for initial deposits? Or do they say april as a backstop more so than as when they are really going to take a look?

FWIW I am going to email them tonight and hope for a response soon (tomorrow) as to what is realistic. It would just seem that to apply early in ED, expressing paramount interest, and then to be considered only after 95% of the class is filled would be.. I don't know... unfair to a degree that is beyond what other schools deferrals set one up for (i.e. Cornell says February I think)

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby snehpets » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:21 pm

Near wrote:
Kbarbosa08 wrote:Deferred today. 173/3.9 as many have said I will be kicking myself if I don't get into nyu rd since I definitely want to go to school in NYC. Pretty much no hope for an acceptance from Columbia as previous years indicate :( good luck to everyone still waiting and congrats to those already in!

Wow, surprising with your numbers. Columbia's admitted what, 10 people?


Yeah that's extremely surprising. Fortunately, you have better numbers than me and I got in nyu RD so I bet you're fine.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby lawschool899 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:21 pm

Kbarbosa08 wrote:Deferred today. 173/3.9 as many have said I will be kicking myself if I don't get into nyu rd since I definitely want to go to school in NYC. Pretty much no hope for an acceptance from Columbia as previous years indicate :( good luck to everyone still waiting and congrats to those already in!


im shocked you were deferred. but you're a lock for NYU RD, in my opinion.




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