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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:33 pm
by AmandaPB
I want to know something.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:00 pm
by FryBreadPower
amc987 wrote:
bk641 wrote:
FryBreadPower wrote:Held. 3.5/175 URM.
insane. i REALLY want to know what they're thinking now.
THIS. I am sorry, FryBreadPower. Although, maybe Columbia is just being stingy with acceptances now because they over-enrolled last year. I can't imagine why you shouldn't be able to get in here regardless. A good LOCI might just do the trick if the committee doesn't manage to see sense on its own.

I am rooting for you!
Thanks a lot, I appreciate the support!

We will keep our fingers crossed. I'm just one of a bunch of super-qualified applicants who have been held. A lot more surprising candidates have been held who I would have thought were "auto-admit".

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:04 pm
by annyong
Held today. Probably withdrawing my app anyways, good luck guys!

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:05 pm
by MichelFoucault
Held, just now. Early Jan submit.

170 4.0 URM

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:12 pm
by crooked
MichelFoucault wrote:Held, just now. Early Jan submit.

170 4.0 URM
annyong wrote:Held today. Probably withdrawing my app anyways, good luck guys!
I am so confused by Columbia.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:30 pm
by American_in_China
3.25/179 Held.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:37 pm
by WhiteGuy5
FryBreadPower wrote:Thanks a lot, I appreciate the support!

We will keep our fingers crossed. I'm just one of a bunch of super-qualified applicants who have been held. A lot more surprising candidates have been held who I would have thought were "auto-admit".

Damn homie--I hope we both make it off the Held list. With the company that we have though, it doesn't feel too bad eh? =)

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:39 pm
by amc987
This makes no sense at all. Columbia must be doing a soft YP with some of these holds. Annyong got into HYS and MichelFoucault has HYS numbers. WTF.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:41 pm
by kscott813
Held today.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:42 pm
by Mr. Somebody
I find it hard to believe CLS does YP... maybe they just need more time

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:50 pm
by EMZE
So, since Columbia (TLS anecdotally) confers no advantage on those who apply ED aside from a short application cycle (which while not an advantage for admission, must be wonderful for the sake of composure), is:

held ED = or ~= held RD?

The pool of held ED pple (see this thread circa 20 DEC 11) was relatively strong as well, with the exceptions like me being those with softs that have since proved to confound the TLS/LSN/LSP soothsayers.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:50 pm
by WhiteGuy5
amc987 wrote:This makes no sense at all. Columbia must be doing a soft YP with some of these holds. Annyong got into HYS and MichelFoucault has HYS numbers. WTF.
I think we're looking at these Holds the wrong way. I don't think a Hold brings you closer to a rejection or waitlist. I think it LITERALLY means what they say it does. "We have your application, but we are still considering it." It's a combination of waiting to see what Harvard does and waiting to review the rest of the applicant pool--so they know how the drop might impact their numbers, and whether they need to adjust accordingly.

I think that is the only way to interpret these holds. It is NOT in the interest of Columbia to reject the bigger chunk of these Holds.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:51 pm
by arewehavingfunyet
Held. I guess I'll have to settle for Yale...

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:52 pm
by Mr. Somebody
EMZE wrote:So, since Columbia (TLS anecdotally) confers no advantage on those who apply ED aside from a short application cycle (which while not an advantage for admission, must be wonderful for the sake of composure), is:

held ED = or ~= held RD?

The pool of held ED pple (see this thread circa 20 DEC 11) was relatively strong as well, with the exceptions like me being those with softs that have since proved to confound the TLS/LSN/LSP soothsayers.
I thought held ED was a soft ding for CLS?

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:52 pm
by WhiteGuy5

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:52 pm
by MichelFoucault
Mr. Somebody wrote:I find it hard to believe CLS does YP... maybe they just need more time
Yeah I find that hard too. But playing the hold card, they definitely can at least wash a handful of HYS admits, and marginally improve yield.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:54 pm
by knickerbocker
All the top schools try to keep their acceptance rate low because that's figured into the USNWR rankings. Another way to do that, besides yield protection, is to increase the total number of applications. Schools do that by soliciting more applicants through fee waivers, often extending them to people who they know won't get it.
Even Yale unexpectedly extended their application deadline to March 1 from February 15. Why? Because they want more applicants. With fewer applicants this year but the same class size, admissions rates are bound to go up unless schools get creative. People with Yale-quality GPAs and LSAT scores are virtually always organized enough to apply on time. They didn't extend the deadline to get a few more worthy applicants; they did it to get the unworthy applicants who will lower their admissions rate.
TL;DR: Don't be surprised that Columbia protects its yield.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:56 pm
by Tiago Splitter
arewehavingfunyet wrote:Held. I guess I'll have to settle for Yale...
Sucks man. I didn't even apply to that TTT. Hope everything works out.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:03 pm
by Blumpbeef
Tiago Splitter wrote:
arewehavingfunyet wrote:Held. I guess I'll have to settle for Yale...
Sucks man. I didn't even apply to that TTT. Hope everything works out.
I don't know, the job market in Connecticut is pretty bad.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:06 pm
by poultry
Are they in the process of changing admission staff and holding everyone like HLS? I guess everyone will end up with a hold at this point?

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:11 pm
by luxxe
poultry wrote:Are they in the process of changing admission staff and holding everyone like HLS? I guess everyone will end up with a hold at this point?
They mailed acceptances this week & someone ITT got reserved today. They aren't holding everyone.

Nothing here still, btw.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:18 pm
by jd5
VCE with a Hamilton in the mail today. Letter dated 2/22. Sort of in shock.

More VCEs on the way, I'm sure. Good luck everybody!

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:19 pm
by luxxe
jd5 wrote:VCE with a Hamilton in the mail today. Letter dated 2/22. Sort of in shock.

More VCEs on the way, I'm sure. Good luck everybody!
Wow, congrats. Where in the country are you?

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:22 pm
by Nelson
jd5 wrote:VCE with a Hamilton in the mail today. Letter dated 2/22. Sort of in shock.

More VCEs on the way, I'm sure. Good luck everybody!
Congrats! That's awesome.

Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:23 pm
by WhiteGuy5
jd5 wrote:VCE with a Hamilton in the mail today. Letter dated 2/22. Sort of in shock.

More VCEs on the way, I'm sure. Good luck everybody!
That/you is/are awesome.