Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Hopefully2012 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:49 pm

jim-green wrote:
vincanity1 wrote:2007-2008 happens to be the year that had roughly the same number of June LSAT's administered, so there's still hope
Why is this good?

Compare 2007-2008 LSN to 2009-2010/2010-2011 LSN and you'll know why.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jim-green » Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:26 pm

Hopefully2012 wrote:
jim-green wrote:
vincanity1 wrote:2007-2008 happens to be the year that had roughly the same number of June LSAT's administered, so there's still hope
Why is this good?
Compare 2007-2008 LSN to 2009-2010/2010-2011 LSN and you'll know why.
Unfortunately, I don't know how to. Not computer savvy.

I submitted all my apps the same day last month and Columbia put me under review the soonest. They sent me an e-mail about it. I did not check other status checkers yet. Anyone else have the same experience?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby vincanity1 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:45 pm

jim-green wrote:
vincanity1 wrote:2007-2008 happens to be the year that had roughly the same number of June LSAT's administered, so there's still hope
Why is this good?


I was responding to this: "It's probably worth an ED app. Both of you guys will probably get stuck on the waitlist, but if apps fall again this year and Columbia needs to work to maintain medians you could get in. Doesn't look like they've gone with GPAs that low since 2007-2008:"

More test takers ---> More applicants = Generally higher admissions standards

I can lay it out in an economics framework if that helps you understand the relationship better.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby thelawyler » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:14 pm

Hopefully2012 wrote:
jim-green wrote:
vincanity1 wrote:2007-2008 happens to be the year that had roughly the same number of June LSAT's administered, so there's still hope
Why is this good?

Compare 2007-2008 LSN to 2009-2010/2010-2011 LSN and you'll know why.


Wow, such a huge difference. That is making me perhaps a bit too optimistic...

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jim-green » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:27 pm

vincanity1 wrote:More test takers ---> More applicants = Generally higher admissions standards. I can lay it out in an economics framework if that helps you understand the relationship better.
Understood, so 2007 had fewer test takers. But curious. What is an economics framework?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby thelawyler » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:33 pm

jim-green wrote:
vincanity1 wrote:More test takers ---> More applicants = Generally higher admissions standards. I can lay it out in an economics framework if that helps you understand the relationship better.
Understood, so 2007 had fewer test takers. But curious. What is an economics framework?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=economics+framework

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby vincanity1 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:11 am

jim-green wrote:
vincanity1 wrote:More test takers ---> More applicants = Generally higher admissions standards. I can lay it out in an economics framework if that helps you understand the relationship better.
Understood, so 2007 had fewer test takers. But curious. What is an economics framework?


I just meant that I think it's easier to understand using the basic macroeconomic model of labor supply/labor demand. e.g. As the supply of labor (the number of people willing to work) drops, firms will raise wages to retain laborers as they are now more valuable. Applied to our case, applicants would take the role of the laborers and law schools would be the employers. Rather than raising wages, law schools will be forced to reach deeper into the pile for candidates and hopefully offer some more cash money.

If you were just being facetious by asking the question to begin with, I hope I wasted enough of your time reading this. Also, I formally apologize to all of TLS for analogizing something with macroeconomic theory

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jim-green » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:17 am

vincanity1 wrote:I just meant that I think it's easier to understand using the basic macroeconomic model of labor supply/labor demand. e.g. As the supply of labor (the number of people willing to work) drops, firms will raise wages to retain laborers as they are now more valuable. Applied to our case, applicants would take the role of the laborers and law schools would be the employers. Rather than raising wages, law schools will be forced to reach deeper into the pile for candidates and hopefully offer some more cash money. If you were just being facetious by asking the question to begin with, I hope I wasted enough of your time reading this. Also, I formally apologize to all of TLS for analogizing something with macroeconomic theory
Haha, this helped. This is stuff I remember now from high school economics, but have forgotten long ago.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby SA1928 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:55 am

jim-green wrote:
Hopefully2012 wrote:
jim-green wrote:
vincanity1 wrote:2007-2008 happens to be the year that had roughly the same number of June LSAT's administered, so there's still hope
Why is this good?
Compare 2007-2008 LSN to 2009-2010/2010-2011 LSN and you'll know why.
Unfortunately, I don't know how to. Not computer savvy.

I submitted all my apps the same day last month and Columbia put me under review the soonest. They sent me an e-mail about it. I did not check other status checkers yet. Anyone else have the same experience?


Here are the links if you want to check out the data on LSN:
2007-2008 Stats: http://columbia.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0708/

2010-2011 Stats: http://columbia.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1011/

Right above the graph, there are all different years and you can click on them as you please :)

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jim-green » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:37 am

SA1928 wrote:Here are the links if you want to check out the data on LSN:
2007-2008 Stats: http://columbia.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0708/ 2010-2011 Stats: http://columbia.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1011/ Right above the graph, there are all different years and you can click on them as you please :)
Wow, this is cool, thanks.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby bpatient3 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:38 pm

I'm considering ED-ing to Columbia.
I took a year off in college. Columbia App asks its applicant to indicate whether his/her academic year has been interrupted for any reason.
But it does not require you to explain why. And I'm wondering if I should write an addendum.
Does Columbia prefer its applicant to write an addendum explaining why he/she took a year off?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby JamMasterJ » Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:45 pm

bpatient3 wrote:I'm considering ED-ing to Columbia.
I took a year off in college. Columbia App asks its applicant to indicate whether his/her academic year has been interrupted for any reason.
But it does not require you to explain why. And I'm wondering if I should write an addendum.
Does Columbia prefer its applicant to write an addendum explaining why he/she took a year off?

at every law school that I know of, you have to

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Killingly » Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:16 pm

Complete. The email said "we hope to welcome you here as a member of the class of 2015."

Riiiiiight. :roll:

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby bpatient3 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:02 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
bpatient3 wrote:I'm considering ED-ing to Columbia.
I took a year off in college. Columbia App asks its applicant to indicate whether his/her academic year has been interrupted for any reason.
But it does not require you to explain why. And I'm wondering if I should write an addendum.
Does Columbia prefer its applicant to write an addendum explaining why he/she took a year off?

at every law school that I know of, you have to


Really? Nowhere in Columbia App it says that I have to. Am I missing something??

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jim-green » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:22 pm

After you get the Complete e-mail, do you get another that says Under Review, or does the Complete e-mail mean that it is UR?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Killingly » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:24 pm

jim-green wrote:After you get the Complete e-mail, do you get another that says Under Review, or does the Complete e-mail mean that it is UR?


My email said it will be sent to the committee and evaluated in the order in which it was completed. No clue if that means we'll get an under-review notification.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby JamMasterJ » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:49 pm

bpatient3 wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:
bpatient3 wrote:I'm considering ED-ing to Columbia.
I took a year off in college. Columbia App asks its applicant to indicate whether his/her academic year has been interrupted for any reason.
But it does not require you to explain why. And I'm wondering if I should write an addendum.
Does Columbia prefer its applicant to write an addendum explaining why he/she took a year off?

at every law school that I know of, you have to


Really? Nowhere in Columbia App it says that I have to. Am I missing something??

double check the C&F section. Maybe their's doesn't

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Hopefully2012 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:25 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
bpatient3 wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:
bpatient3 wrote:I'm considering ED-ing to Columbia.
I took a year off in college. Columbia App asks its applicant to indicate whether his/her academic year has been interrupted for any reason.
But it does not require you to explain why. And I'm wondering if I should write an addendum.
Does Columbia prefer its applicant to write an addendum explaining why he/she took a year off?

at every law school that I know of, you have to


Really? Nowhere in Columbia App it says that I have to. Am I missing something??

double check the C&F section. Maybe their's doesn't

On the apps I'm familiar with, this question is posed in the "education" section.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Sh@keNb@ke » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:23 pm

Killingly wrote:Complete. The email said "we hope to welcome you here as a member of the class of 2015."

Riiiiiight. :roll:


Got the same email today. When are the earliest acceptances usually?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Hawkeye Pierce » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:31 pm

Sh@keNb@ke wrote:
Killingly wrote:Complete. The email said "we hope to welcome you here as a member of the class of 2015."

Riiiiiight. :roll:


Got the same email today. When are the earliest acceptances usually?


End of January is when they went out last year

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby kwais » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:41 pm

Killingly wrote:
jim-green wrote:After you get the Complete e-mail, do you get another that says Under Review, or does the Complete e-mail mean that it is UR?


My email said it will be sent to the committee and evaluated in the order in which it was completed. No clue if that means we'll get an under-review notification.


almost positive that they don't do UR. It's complete ---> decision. And furthermore, it stayed "complete" long after I got my decision in the mail. CLS not super tech savvy with the admissions.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby lblelalr » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:57 pm

for those of you guys who are complete does your status checker say "complete" or "completion pending"? I submitted 10/11 and im still pending :(

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Hawkeye Pierce » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:59 pm

lblelalr wrote:for those of you guys who are complete does your status checker say "complete" or "completion pending"? I submitted 10/11 and im still pending :(


It says:

Application Status: Complete

Your application is now complete and has been forwarded to the Admissions Committee for review. Applications are reviewed on a rolling basis, generally in the order in which they are completed. If you have applied to our first-year class as a Regular Decision applicant, we will endeavor to provide you with a final decision no later than the end of April, provided your application was completed by February 15, our regular decision application deadline.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Yeshia90 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:00 am

Hawkeye Pierce wrote:
lblelalr wrote:for those of you guys who are complete does your status checker say "complete" or "completion pending"? I submitted 10/11 and im still pending :(


It says:

Application Status: Complete

Your application is now complete and has been forwarded to the Admissions Committee for review. Applications are reviewed on a rolling basis, generally in the order in which they are completed. If you have applied to our first-year class as a Regular Decision applicant, we will endeavor to provide you with a final decision no later than the end of April, provided your application was completed by February 15, our regular decision application deadline.


I know for a fact they don't start reviewing applications until November, so even if they will update to Under Review, it'll take a while.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby kwais » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:02 am

Yeshia90 wrote:
Hawkeye Pierce wrote:
lblelalr wrote:for those of you guys who are complete does your status checker say "complete" or "completion pending"? I submitted 10/11 and im still pending :(


It says:

Application Status: Complete

Your application is now complete and has been forwarded to the Admissions Committee for review. Applications are reviewed on a rolling basis, generally in the order in which they are completed. If you have applied to our first-year class as a Regular Decision applicant, we will endeavor to provide you with a final decision no later than the end of April, provided your application was completed by February 15, our regular decision application deadline.


I know for a fact they don't start reviewing applications until November, so even if they will update to Under Review, it'll take a while.


why do you say that?




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