Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Share Your Experiences, Read About Other Experiences. Please keep posts organized by school and expected year of graduation.
User avatar
AntipodeanPhil
Posts: 1300
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:02 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby AntipodeanPhil » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:16 pm

poultry wrote:Are you currently in the States? Maybe the time difference thing is delaying their call for you?

bk641 wrote:it's only 3 o'clock, don't think we're done for the day.

The last overseas-based international to get a JS2 got it by email, I think (in what was the middle of the night, his time). If I remember correctly, they do the same thing for Americans living overseas.

jec3550
Posts: 2
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:41 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby jec3550 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:07 pm

JS2 a couple of hrs ago! Thank you to everyone on this post who has kept me relatively sane over the last many months. Key dates and such below for anyone who is curious. Also, to those who have had radio silence since November...there is still hope!

JS1: Tues. 3/13
JS1 Email: Mon 3/12
Complete Email: 12/22/11 (no movement until JS1)
Submitted: 11/28
Stats: 173/3.73 with 4yrs work

User avatar
hypothalamus
Posts: 745
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:11 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby hypothalamus » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:17 pm

jec3550 wrote:JS2 a couple of hrs ago! Thank you to everyone on this post who has kept me relatively sane over the last many months. Key dates and such below for anyone who is curious. Also, to those who have had radio silence since November...there is still hope!

JS1: Tues. 3/13
JS1 Email: Mon 3/12
Complete Email: 12/22/11 (no movement until JS1)
Submitted: 11/28
Stats: 173/3.73 with 4yrs work


Our numbers are basically the same... *sobs in the corner*

But major congrats to you! :)

User avatar
beevs
Posts: 25
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:30 am

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby beevs » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:46 pm

I'M IN! Why is yelling at the library not appropriate?

I feel really bad about prematurely freaking out now. I wish the rest of you all of the luck! Even though I'm an incredible lurker, the community on this thread alone is awesome and I think you should all be together at HLS next year.

operagrl71
Posts: 57
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:39 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby operagrl71 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:48 pm

Congrats! Still waiting [sigh]...what time was your call?

User avatar
beevs
Posts: 25
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:30 am

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby beevs » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:00 pm

This is the terrible part where I'm not helpful. I checked my voicemail around 5:20pm EST, but I have the timestamp feature disabled because I usually just look at the time of missed calls. The catch--my phone is broken, so I checked on someone else's. I think the last time I checked my voicemail before this was 3:30pm, so sometime in that two hour window.

User avatar
PopTorts13
Posts: 378
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:27 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby PopTorts13 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:57 pm

*
Last edited by PopTorts13 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
zapcaz
Posts: 143
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:21 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby zapcaz » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:03 pm

PopTorts13 wrote:No JS2 and they fucked my bracket!


News just in . . . Vanderbilt is way better than Harvard at basketball

User avatar
PopTorts13
Posts: 378
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:27 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby PopTorts13 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:07 pm

zapcaz wrote:
PopTorts13 wrote:No JS2 and they fucked my bracket!


News just in . . . Vanderbilt is way better than Harvard at basketball


My one upset/Cinderella; these things happen. Apparently not this time!

Barca10
Posts: 70
Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:46 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Barca10 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:15 pm

PopTorts13 wrote:
zapcaz wrote:
PopTorts13 wrote:No JS2 and they fucked my bracket!


News just in . . . Vanderbilt is way better than Harvard at basketball


My one upset/Cinderella; these things happen. Apparently not this time!


I was really hoping for an upset that would put JS in a tremendous mood for my interview tomorrow. No such luck! :x

User avatar
PopTorts13
Posts: 378
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:27 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby PopTorts13 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:26 pm

Barca10 wrote:
PopTorts13 wrote:
zapcaz wrote:
PopTorts13 wrote:No JS2 and they fucked my bracket!


News just in . . . Vanderbilt is way better than Harvard at basketball


My one upset/Cinderella; these things happen. Apparently not this time!


I was really hoping for an upset that would put JS in a tremendous mood for my interview tomorrow. No such luck! :x


You're gonna take care of business during that interview and hopefully I will be joining you in the next round of JS2s. JS doesn't interview and send out JS's on the same day... does she?

chickenalfredo
Posts: 88
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:30 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby chickenalfredo » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:37 pm

no JS2 for me :cry:

User avatar
mjitbswyd
Posts: 144
Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 9:28 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby mjitbswyd » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:56 pm

fellow international JS1s: during my interview I asked JS about when should I expect a decision, and she told me that since there are a lot of files it might take some time. At first I thought it was because I was not good enough (which might still be the case), but now I think such timing might apply to all international JS1s in this batch. She might want to go through the whole held application pool (not just internationals) to decide how many internationals she would take before issuing any international JS2s.

User avatar
AntipodeanPhil
Posts: 1300
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:02 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby AntipodeanPhil » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:10 pm

mjitbswyd wrote:fellow international JS1s: during my interview I asked JS about when should I expect a decision, and she told me that since there are a lot of files it might take some time. At first I thought it was because I was not good enough (which might still be the case), but now I think such timing might apply to all international JS1s in this batch. She might want to go through the whole held application pool (not just internationals) to decide how many internationals she would take before issuing any international JS2s.

Curious.

My theory is that they want to estimate the LSAT median for the incoming class, and then sprinkle internationals into the mix until the median = 173 again. We're the easiest way to remedy a low LSAT median, since there are a lot of us at 173 or above, and we don't mess with the GPA quartiles.

User avatar
amc987
Posts: 568
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:58 am

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby amc987 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:19 pm

Congrats to all the new JS2s! Amazing job guys!

I was wondering if any of the new JS1s had been held before they received their interview invites? After JS skimmed the hold pile, I thought she might delve deeper into it this week. Unfortunately, that seems not to have happened yet. Hopefully tomorrow will be a big hold--> JS1 day with JS2s interspersed for those who are still waiting.

Good luck everyone!

User avatar
WhiteGuy5
Posts: 919
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:47 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby WhiteGuy5 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:25 pm

I've stopped following Harvard, but when do rejections come out?

User avatar
mjitbswyd
Posts: 144
Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 9:28 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby mjitbswyd » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:27 pm

AntipodeanPhil wrote:
mjitbswyd wrote:fellow international JS1s: during my interview I asked JS about when should I expect a decision, and she told me that since there are a lot of files it might take some time. At first I thought it was because I was not good enough (which might still be the case), but now I think such timing might apply to all international JS1s in this batch. She might want to go through the whole held application pool (not just internationals) to decide how many internationals she would take before issuing any international JS2s.

Curious.

My theory is that they want to estimate the LSAT median for the incoming class, and then sprinkle internationals into the mix until the median = 173 again. We're the easiest way to remedy a low LSAT median, since there are a lot of us at 173 or above, and we don't mess with the GPA quartiles.


That is very good reason for doing so. However, what I don't understand is, if no interntional JS1s is going to become JS2s in the near future, won't it make more sense to interview internationals after they finish estimating the LSAT median?

User avatar
PopTorts13
Posts: 378
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:27 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby PopTorts13 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:30 pm

amc987 wrote:Congrats to all the new JS2s! Amazing job guys!

I was wondering if any of the new JS1s had been held before they received their interview invites? After JS skimmed the hold pile, I thought she might delve deeper into it this week. Unfortunately, that seems not to have happened yet. Hopefully tomorrow will be a big hold--> JS1 day with JS2s interspersed for those who are still waiting.

Good luck everyone!


I like you... a lot!

User avatar
AntipodeanPhil
Posts: 1300
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:02 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby AntipodeanPhil » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:37 pm

mjitbswyd wrote:That is very good reason for doing so. However, what I don't understand is, if no interntional JS1s is going to become JS2s in the near future, won't it make more sense to interview internationals after they finish estimating the LSAT median?

I'm betting some of you guys will get JS2s soon. Perhaps they estimate their LSAT median after admitting X% of the class - where X is a number significantly short of 100?

That said, I have to stop engaging in ridiculous speculation on this thread. I almost invariably get it wrong and/or freak people out.

User avatar
Elendil
Posts: 516
Joined: Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:45 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Elendil » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:42 pm

PopTorts13 wrote:
amc987 wrote:Congrats to all the new JS2s! Amazing job guys!

I was wondering if any of the new JS1s had been held before they received their interview invites? After JS skimmed the hold pile, I thought she might delve deeper into it this week. Unfortunately, that seems not to have happened yet. Hopefully tomorrow will be a big hold--> JS1 day with JS2s interspersed for those who are still waiting.

Good luck everyone!


I like you... a lot!


YES!

pangoo
Posts: 5
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:52 am

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby pangoo » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:13 am

first post for a long time lurker...

Should I inform Harvard of my acceptance to the other half of a dual-degree program with HLS?

Thanks!

User avatar
QueMellow
Posts: 188
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:09 am

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby QueMellow » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:48 am

pangoo wrote:first post for a long time lurker...

Should I inform Harvard of my acceptance to the other half of a dual-degree program with HLS?

Thanks!



I am in the exact same position! I did it at Penn, which is my #1, and I think I'm gonna do it at HLS. It can double as a preemptive LOCI. Go for it!

User avatar
poultry
Posts: 128
Joined: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:34 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby poultry » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:47 am

I have an even wilder speculation. I think they maintain a quota for international students, ie. two koreans, two chinese, a bunch of new zealanders, etc. (I made up the numbers). So we are not actually competing with the vast majority of domestic applicants, and we are evaluated based on a very small international applicants pool, the relative strength of which determines our chance. My empirical observations seem to back this theory up. But again, that's my pure speculation. Wish us all good luck!

AntipodeanPhil wrote:
mjitbswyd wrote:fellow international JS1s: during my interview I asked JS about when should I expect a decision, and she told me that since there are a lot of files it might take some time. At first I thought it was because I was not good enough (which might still be the case), but now I think such timing might apply to all international JS1s in this batch. She might want to go through the whole held application pool (not just internationals) to decide how many internationals she would take before issuing any international JS2s.

Curious.

My theory is that they want to estimate the LSAT median for the incoming class, and then sprinkle internationals into the mix until the median = 173 again. We're the easiest way to remedy a low LSAT median, since there are a lot of us at 173 or above, and we don't mess with the GPA quartiles.

User avatar
mjitbswyd
Posts: 144
Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 9:28 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby mjitbswyd » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:02 am

poultry wrote:I have an even wilder speculation. I think they maintain a quota for international students, ie. two koreans, two chinese, a bunch of new zealanders, etc. (I made up the numbers). So we are not actually competing with the vast majority of domestic applicants, and we are evaluated based on a very small international applicants pool, the relative strength of which determines our chance. My empirical observations seem to back this theory up. But again, that's my pure speculation. Wish us all good luck!

AntipodeanPhil wrote:
mjitbswyd wrote:fellow international JS1s: during my interview I asked JS about when should I expect a decision, and she told me that since there are a lot of files it might take some time. At first I thought it was because I was not good enough (which might still be the case), but now I think such timing might apply to all international JS1s in this batch. She might want to go through the whole held application pool (not just internationals) to decide how many internationals she would take before issuing any international JS2s.

Curious.

My theory is that they want to estimate the LSAT median for the incoming class, and then sprinkle internationals into the mix until the median = 173 again. We're the easiest way to remedy a low LSAT median, since there are a lot of us at 173 or above, and we don't mess with the GPA quartiles.


I am fairly sure you are right that we are competing against other internationals (or even with our own people). But it does not explain why no international from the latest JS1s gets a JS2 (or maybe someone did but not on TLS, but I highly doubt that): I am sure JS has finished reading the materials from true international before issuing the latest JS1 invitations (just like she likely finished reading all URM application before the latest batch of JS1).

User avatar
poultry
Posts: 128
Joined: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:34 pm

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby poultry » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:13 am

Because strong applicant like Antipodean is still held after a JS1....I guess they are going to make decisions on internationals collectively. After they interviewed all potentially strong international applicants, they might be able to issue JS2s...

mjitbswyd wrote:
poultry wrote:I have an even wilder speculation. I think they maintain a quota for international students, ie. two koreans, two chinese, a bunch of new zealanders, etc. (I made up the numbers). So we are not actually competing with the vast majority of domestic applicants, and we are evaluated based on a very small international applicants pool, the relative strength of which determines our chance. My empirical observations seem to back this theory up. But again, that's my pure speculation. Wish us all good luck!

AntipodeanPhil wrote:
mjitbswyd wrote:fellow international JS1s: during my interview I asked JS about when should I expect a decision, and she told me that since there are a lot of files it might take some time. At first I thought it was because I was not good enough (which might still be the case), but now I think such timing might apply to all international JS1s in this batch. She might want to go through the whole held application pool (not just internationals) to decide how many internationals she would take before issuing any international JS2s.

Curious.

My theory is that they want to estimate the LSAT median for the incoming class, and then sprinkle internationals into the mix until the median = 173 again. We're the easiest way to remedy a low LSAT median, since there are a lot of us at 173 or above, and we don't mess with the GPA quartiles.


I am fairly sure you are right that we are competing against other internationals (or even with our own people). But it does not explain why no international from the latest JS1s gets a JS2 (or maybe someone did but not on TLS, but I highly doubt that): I am sure JS has finished reading the materials from true international before issuing the latest JS1 invitations (just like she likely finished reading all URM application before the latest batch of JS1).




Return to “Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: christinaxcarrie, kinglew, LawSchoolTitan and 11 guests