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Correct me if I'm wrong, but here is my understanding on how a decrease in applications could help us:

1) It could decrease the class size, thus increasing employment opportunities. First, these numbers are going to be slightly off for illustrative purposes. Assume that, e.g., the V10 firms take the top 100 students at Harvard (of a class size of 500). This means 20% of the students would get V10. Now, assume that V10 (and V100) SA class sizes don't decrease. If the school's class size decreased to 450 to compensate for decreased applicants, then it would improve to 22.22%.

2) It could cause the medians to fall as schools maintain their class sizes. This would obviously make it so that, e.g., borderline candidates have a greater shot of being admitted.

Hawkeye Pierce wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but here is my understanding on how a decrease in applications could help us:

1) It could decrease the class size, thus increasing employment opportunities. First, these numbers are going to be slightly off for illustrative purposes. Assume that, e.g., the V10 firms take the top 100 students at Harvard (of a class size of 500). This means 20% of the students would get V10. Now, assume that V10 (and V100) SA class sizes don't decrease. If the school's class size decreased to 450 to compensate for decreased applicants, then it would improve to 22.22%.

2) It could cause the medians to fall as schools maintain their class sizes. This would obviously make it so that, e.g., borderline candidates have a greater shot of being admitted.

+1

As the economy picks up, applicant increases will likely lag behind SA hiring increases. Despite the economy, this could actually be a great time to go to (a good) law school.

What is SA?

jim-green wrote:What is SA?

Summer associate.

Samara wrote:

Hawkeye Pierce wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but here is my understanding on how a decrease in applications could help us:

1) It could decrease the class size, thus increasing employment opportunities. First, these numbers are going to be slightly off for illustrative purposes. Assume that, e.g., the V10 firms take the top 100 students at Harvard (of a class size of 500). This means 20% of the students would get V10. Now, assume that V10 (and V100) SA class sizes don't decrease. If the school's class size decreased to 450 to compensate for decreased applicants, then it would improve to 22.22%.

2) It could cause the medians to fall as schools maintain their class sizes. This would obviously make it so that, e.g., borderline candidates have a greater shot of being admitted.

+1

As the economy picks up, applicant increases will likely lag behind SA hiring increases. Despite the economy, this could actually be a great time to go to (a good) law school.

Shhh.....

jim-green wrote:

Samara wrote:

Hawkeye Pierce wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but here is my understanding on how a decrease in applications could help us:

1) It could decrease the class size, thus increasing employment opportunities. First, these numbers are going to be slightly off for illustrative purposes. Assume that, e.g., the V10 firms take the top 100 students at Harvard (of a class size of 500). This means 20% of the students would get V10. Now, assume that V10 (and V100) SA class sizes don't decrease. If the school's class size decreased to 450 to compensate for decreased applicants, then it would improve to 22.22%.

2) It could cause the medians to fall as schools maintain their class sizes. This would obviously make it so that, e.g., borderline candidates have a greater shot of being admitted.

+1

As the economy picks up, applicant increases will likely lag behind SA hiring increases. Despite the economy, this could actually be a great time to go to (a good) law school.

Shhh.....

Haha, I know. MTal and scammedhard are going to start bombing this thread now.

Samara wrote:Haha, I know. MTal and scammedhard are going to start bombing this thread now.

Who are the individuals you speak of?

jim-green wrote:

Samara wrote:Haha, I know. MTal and scammedhard are going to start bombing this thread now.

Who are the individuals you speak of?

haha, you need a TLS primer. They are the two most prolific of what I call the Chicken Little posters. The Chicken Little posters start threads all the time or invade other threads to tell us all about how the economy is so terrible and only going to get worse and no one will get jobs and no one should go to law school unless you can get a scholly to HYS. I actually like scammedhard for the most part and appreciate the way he presents his point of view, but MTal is one huge joke. He dropped out of a T2 school after his first year or something like that, but still hangs around here telling people how they're going to fail and how awesome it is to work in a financial call center or as a Hot Topic manager.

Samara wrote:

jim-green wrote:

Samara wrote:Haha, I know. MTal and scammedhard are going to start bombing this thread now.

Who are the individuals you speak of?

haha, you need a TLS primer. They are the two most prolific of what I call the Chicken Little posters. The Chicken Little posters start threads all the time or invade other threads to tell us all about how the economy is so terrible and only going to get worse and no one will get jobs and no one should go to law school unless you can get a scholly to HYS. I actually like scammedhard for the most part and appreciate the way he presents his point of view, but MTal is one huge joke. He dropped out of a T2 school after his first year or something like that, but still hangs around here telling people how they're going to fail and how awesome it is to work in a financial call center or as a Hot Topic manager.

haha, I wonder if Mtal is the guy who started Above The Law. I think that guy's name is Lat though.

jim-green wrote:

Samara wrote:

jim-green wrote:

Samara wrote:Haha, I know. MTal and scammedhard are going to start bombing this thread now.

Who are the individuals you speak of?

haha, you need a TLS primer. They are the two most prolific of what I call the Chicken Little posters. The Chicken Little posters start threads all the time or invade other threads to tell us all about how the economy is so terrible and only going to get worse and no one will get jobs and no one should go to law school unless you can get a scholly to HYS. I actually like scammedhard for the most part and appreciate the way he presents his point of view, but MTal is one huge joke. He dropped out of a T2 school after his first year or something like that, but still hangs around here telling people how they're going to fail and how awesome it is to work in a financial call center or as a Hot Topic manager.

haha, I wonder if Mtal is the guy who started Above The Law. I think that guy's name is Lat though.

lol I'm pretty certain that's a no. According to MTal, he currently works in financial services, basically a phone sales position from what I understand.

Samara wrote:According to MTal, he currently works in financial services, basically a phone sales position from what I understand.

Having done that kind of work I always laugh when MTal describes anything else as "soul-crushing"

Tiago Splitter wrote:

Samara wrote:According to MTal, he currently works in financial services, basically a phone sales position from what I understand.

Having done that kind of work I always laugh when MTal describes anything else as "soul-crushing"

Yeah, phone sales sounds like the worst to me. For some people, I'm sure it's fine, but for me it's pretty much the last thing I want to do.

Samara wrote:

Tiago Splitter wrote:

Samara wrote:According to MTal, he currently works in financial services, basically a phone sales position from what I understand.

Having done that kind of work I always laugh when MTal describes anything else as "soul-crushing"

Yeah, phone sales sounds like the worst to me. For some people, I'm sure it's fine, but for me it's pretty much the last thing I want to do.

I was on inbound calls only but it could get rough.

Samara wrote:

Tiago Splitter wrote:

Samara wrote:According to MTal, he currently works in financial services, basically a phone sales position from what I understand.

Having done that kind of work I always laugh when MTal describes anything else as "soul-crushing"

Yeah, phone sales sounds like the worst to me. For some people, I'm sure it's fine, but for me it's pretty much the last thing I want to do.

Wait, maybe he is the VP of Nokia.

Stop adding 2 new pages to this thread without any developments on interview front, you almost gave me a heart attack.

Nulli Secundus wrote:What is wrong with you people?!?!

Stop adding 2 new pages to this thread without any developments on interview front, you almost gave me a heart attack.

Perhaps the first person to see a JR1 should start a new thread with a very catchy title.

Nulli Secundus wrote:Stop adding 2 new pages to this thread without any developments on interview front, you almost gave me a heart attack.

I can't imagine what you think of the Northwestern thread then.

Samara wrote:

Nulli Secundus wrote:Stop adding 2 new pages to this thread without any developments on interview front, you almost gave me a heart attack.

I can't imagine what you think of the Northwestern thread then.

Well, different modus operandi, people use NU thread much more actively. Up until today, this thread was pretty much dead, only jumping 1-2 pages when something important happened, like complete e-mails etc. So the pattern suggested an important development and I was a tad disappointed, that's all.

Nulli Secundus wrote:

Samara wrote:

Nulli Secundus wrote:Stop adding 2 new pages to this thread without any developments on interview front, you almost gave me a heart attack.

I can't imagine what you think of the Northwestern thread then.

Well, different modus operandi, people use NU thread much more actively. Up until today, this thread was pretty much dead, only jumping 1-2 pages when something important happened, like complete e-mails etc. So the pattern suggested an important development and I was a tad disappointed, that's all.

Ah, I see. This is what happens when NU people invade a thread, haha. Hopefully, next time I post in here it will be with good news.

So what are the chances that the decision timeline will be significantly altered this year? For how long has the pattern of HLS giving out the first round of acceptances the week of Thanksgiving been going on? I am just having a hard time imagining them being able to interview over 1000 candidates in the next 3 weeks, and that's assuming they start some time soon, which might not be likely.

They don't actually interview all 1000-1200 before Thanksgiving. Those are for the most part just the auto-admits. Interviews happen throughout Nov, Dec, Jan, etc as well.

It's already November. Harvard needs to start emailing people for interviews. I'm getting impatient!

Hawkeye Pierce wrote:It's already November. Harvard needs to start emailing people for interviews. I'm getting impatient!

I had a dream about it (part of a larger dream in which I was running around with the cast of Harry Potter staving off an alien invasion), woke up disappointed.

Curious1 wrote:

Hawkeye Pierce wrote:It's already November. Harvard needs to start emailing people for interviews. I'm getting impatient!

I had a dream about it (part of a larger dream in which I was running around with the cast of Harry Potter staving off an alien invasion), woke up disappointed.

This is quickly becoming one of the weirdest on-topic threads.

Curious1 wrote:

Hawkeye Pierce wrote:It's already November. Harvard needs to start emailing people for interviews. I'm getting impatient!

I had a dream about it (part of a larger dream in which I was running around with the cast of Harry Potter staving off an alien invasion), woke up disappointed.

Had an application process nightmare myself last night.