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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:52 pm
by Fedexpress29
Hi Everyone,

I've been lurking here for a while, but had a quick question. I submitted in early January, I've been complete since early February. I haven't received any correspondence at all since. Does this effectively mean that I have been held, or will I actually get an email that says that I have been held? It seems that most of the early January applicants have already heard back in some manner.

Thanks!

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:56 pm
by MichelFoucault
Fedexpress29 wrote:Hi Everyone,

I've been lurking here for a while, but had a quick question. I submitted in early January, I've been complete since early February. I haven't received any correspondence at all since. Does this effectively mean that I have been held, or will I actually get an email that says that I have been held? It seems that most of the early January applicants have already heard back in some manner.

Thanks!
I'm an early Jan submit and haven't heard back yet either.

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:11 pm
by hypothalamus
brownpride wrote: Not yet. Submitted Jan 30, complete Feb 22. No word yet.
Sorry guys, might still be a few days.
I don't usually make snide comments on TLS, but... HAHAH this is cute. :D
You do realize the fact that YOU haven't heard anything means nothing other than... you haven't heard anything. You very well might not heard anything until mid-April or until long after many old holds have received decisions.

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:32 pm
by Fedexpress29
hypothalamus wrote:
brownpride wrote: Not yet. Submitted Jan 30, complete Feb 22. No word yet.
Sorry guys, might still be a few days.
I don't usually make snide comments on TLS, but... HAHAH this is cute. :D
You do realize the fact that YOU haven't heard anything means nothing other than... you haven't heard anything. You very well might not heard anything until mid-April or until long after many old holds have received decisions.

I understand that, but you would think that they would tell you that you were being held if they are effectively holding you until after many of the other individuals. Sorry my post was so obvious. Im really new on these TLS forums. :D

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:36 pm
by snehpets
Fedexpress29 wrote:
hypothalamus wrote:
brownpride wrote: Not yet. Submitted Jan 30, complete Feb 22. No word yet.
Sorry guys, might still be a few days.
I don't usually make snide comments on TLS, but... HAHAH this is cute. :D
You do realize the fact that YOU haven't heard anything means nothing other than... you haven't heard anything. You very well might not heard anything until mid-April or until long after many old holds have received decisions.

I understand that, but you would think that they would tell you that you were being held if they are effectively holding you until after many of the other individuals. Sorry my post was so obvious. Im really new on these TLS forums. :D
Haha, they weren't talking to you, they were talking to brownpride.

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:41 pm
by Fedexpress29
snehpets wrote:
Fedexpress29 wrote:
hypothalamus wrote:
brownpride wrote: Not yet. Submitted Jan 30, complete Feb 22. No word yet.
Sorry guys, might still be a few days.
I don't usually make snide comments on TLS, but... HAHAH this is cute. :D
You do realize the fact that YOU haven't heard anything means nothing other than... you haven't heard anything. You very well might not heard anything until mid-April or until long after many old holds have received decisions.

I understand that, but you would think that they would tell you that you were being held if they are effectively holding you until after many of the other individuals. Sorry my post was so obvious. Im really new on these TLS forums. :D
Haha, they weren't talking to you, they were talking to brownpride.
Oh good point haha. the answer seemed like it was towards me...

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:54 pm
by aekea
Fedexpress29 wrote:Hi Everyone,

I've been lurking here for a while, but had a quick question. I submitted in early January, I've been complete since early February. I haven't received any correspondence at all since. Does this effectively mean that I have been held, or will I actually get an email that says that I have been held? It seems that most of the early January applicants have already heard back in some manner.

Thanks!
People who are held receive a hold email that explicitly says they are on hold. If you haven't heard yet it might mean they'll hold you later on, it might mean they'll offer you a JS1 and it might mean you'll be rejected flat out. Unfortunately, different applications are processed at different speeds, and so comparing yourself to others who applied at the same time only reveals a limited amount of information; in this case, that you are not an "auto-admit."

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:33 pm
by StrictlyBusiness
brownpride wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:So it looks like they're almost done then with the January submitters. They should be getting to the holds next week if they're scheduling the JS1s this week for people who submitted right before the deadline.
Not yet. Submitted Jan 30, complete Feb 22. No word yet.
Sorry guys, might still be a few days.
Pretty much the same: Sub 1/29 - Complete 2/1 - UR 2/22

I'm guessing the wait's gonna be a little longer than that though, and I'm not going to be the least bit surprised to see a hold either.

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:21 pm
by brownpride
hypothalamus wrote:
brownpride wrote: Not yet. Submitted Jan 30, complete Feb 22. No word yet.
Sorry guys, might still be a few days.
I don't usually make snide comments on TLS, but... HAHAH this is cute. :D
You do realize the fact that YOU haven't heard anything means nothing other than... you haven't heard anything. You very well might not heard anything until mid-April or until long after many old holds have received decisions.
Lol all I meant is that all the late Jan submits haven't necessarily been finished yet. Some people seemed to think that was the case, so I was just saying they may not be done with them yet.

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:50 pm
by crystalized
JS1 email - 2/24
UR - 1/10
(UR email - 1/19)

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:09 pm
by jd5
This is probably a stupid question, but..."Ms. Soban" or "Jessica" during the JS1? My initial inclination would be the former, at least until she says otherwise, but she did sign the email "Jessica."

Thoughts? What did everybody else do?

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:18 pm
by hypothalamus
jd5 wrote:This is probably a stupid question, but..."Ms. Soban" or "Jessica" during the JS1? My initial inclination would be the former, at least until she says otherwise, but she did sign the email "Jessica."

Thoughts? What did everybody else do?
I think it's perfectly fine to ask at the beginning of the conversation. On the one hand, "Jessica" would be the default for the corporate world (where she's been for a while). On the other, "Ms. Soban" is more appropriate for the Dean of Admissions, but might create unnecessary distance if she is more used to "Jessica." So just ask politely :)

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:21 am
by Onthebrink
jd5 wrote:This is probably a stupid question, but..."Ms. Soban" or "Jessica" during the JS1? My initial inclination would be the former, at least until she says otherwise, but she did sign the email "Jessica."

Thoughts? What did everybody else do?
I went with Dean Soban. It just seemed easier. Thank you everyone for all of your help in this (especially the awesome Byz and JLC). JS was a great conversationalist and really had me at ease. We talked a little about my PS and more about my Resume'. Overall, it was a really positive experience and I have to wish everyone the best of luck. Here is hoping for a strong TLS showing in the 2015 class!

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:47 am
by bogm2012
jd5 wrote:This is probably a stupid question, but..."Ms. Soban" or "Jessica" during the JS1? My initial inclination would be the former, at least until she says otherwise, but she did sign the email "Jessica."

Thoughts? What did everybody else do?
I went with Jessica. Really agonized over it (I still call my friends' parents by their last names, even when they have repeatedly asked me not to... it wasn't in a "Will it keep me out of HLS?!" way, but more "God, I don't want to be rude" way), but I doubt she cared either way (and I got a JS2, FWIW :wink: )

I think her background in business gives the above comment some credit. I was used to calling people of all levels and backgrounds by their first name, even when they had a title or honorific.

Just do whatever feels comfortable. If it's Jessica don't worry that she'll think you're an insolent prick. If it's Dean Soban don't worry that it's too formal.

Good luck!

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:51 am
by lessthanjake
JS1 email today!!

Submitted in early January, UR in late January, complete in early February

EDIT: Also, not that it really matters, but does anyone know what percent of people who get the HLS phone interview actually end up accepted? It's unclear to me just how good of a sign it is to get the JS1.

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:52 am
by Byzantine
lessthanjake wrote:JS1 email today!!

Submitted in early January, UR in late January, complete in early February

EDIT: Also, not that it really matters, but does anyone know what percent of people who get the HLS phone interview actually end up accepted? It's unclear to me just how good of a sign it is to get the JS1.
It was about 80% last year.

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:41 am
by brownpride
JS1 email this morning! And congrats on yours lessthanjake.

Any of you recent JS1ers willing to PM me some helpful info?

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:43 am
by StrictlyBusiness
brownpride wrote:JS1 email this morning! And congrats on yours lessthanjake.

Any of you recent JS1ers willing to PM me some helpful info?

Ah Congrats! I'm torn between the positive sign that you got one and the unfortunate fact that I didn't. yet. Put in a good word for me during your JS1.

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:45 am
by Elendil
Congratulations! It looks like we have almost reached the very end of the immediate pre-deadline submits...

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:16 am
by brownpride
StrictlyBusiness wrote:
brownpride wrote:JS1 email this morning! And congrats on yours lessthanjake.

Any of you recent JS1ers willing to PM me some helpful info?

Ah Congrats! I'm torn between the positive sign that you got one and the unfortunate fact that I didn't. yet. Put in a good word for me during your JS1.
Won't have to, she mentioned in the email that yours is coming later today.

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:17 am
by Onthebrink
Congratulations to all the new JS1ers! Best of luck and feel free to PM me if you want to talk about JS1s.

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:29 am
by MichelFoucault
Elendil wrote:Congratulations! It looks like we have almost reached the very end of the immediate pre-deadline submits...
Lessthankjake went UR early jan, which means he probably
Submitted sometime in December. Im an early
Jan submit and havent heard anything yet. So Im not so sure we are at the end of the line. What makes you think so?

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:42 am
by Elendil
MichelFoucault wrote:
Elendil wrote:Congratulations! It looks like we have almost reached the very end of the immediate pre-deadline submits...
Lessthankjake went UR early jan, which means he probably
Submitted sometime in December. Im an early
Jan submit and havent heard anything yet. So Im not so sure we are at the end of the line. What makes you think so?
No, Lessthanjake went UR in late January and the recent JS1s have (with a few exceptions, like Lessthanjake) generally gone in chronological order. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong. And Brownpride submitted literally two days before the deadline and just received a JS1.

I'm not saying that this is the "end of the line", for the record. I'm just saying that they've done preliminary reviews of virtually all applications at this point, so I'm being a wishful member of the "hold" group by thinking that they're going to get back around to us, finally. :wink:

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:51 am
by MichelFoucault
Elendil wrote:
MichelFoucault wrote:
Elendil wrote:Congratulations! It looks like we have almost reached the very end of the immediate pre-deadline submits...
Lessthankjake went UR early jan, which means he probably
Submitted sometime in December. Im an early
Jan submit and havent heard anything yet. So Im not so sure we are at the end of the line. What makes you think so?
No, Lessthanjake went UR in late January and the recent JS1s have (with a few exceptions, like Lessthanjake) generally gone in chronological order. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong. And Brownpride submitted literally two days before the deadline and just received a JS1.

I'm not saying that this is the "end of the line", for the record. I'm just saying that they've done preliminary reviews of virtually all applications at this point, so I'm being a wishful member of the "hold" group by thinking that they're going to get back around to us, finally. :wink:
Oops, you're right. I misread/misremembered jakes post. I agree with your assessment.

Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:02 pm
by hypothalamus
MichelFoucault wrote:
Elendil wrote:Congratulations! It looks like we have almost reached the very end of the immediate pre-deadline submits...
Lessthankjake went UR early jan, which means he probably
Submitted sometime in December. Im an early
Jan submit and havent heard anything yet. So Im not so sure we are at the end of the line. What makes you think so?
I don't know why it bugs me (again) that someone makes a comment like that :?
But it kind of does, nonetheless. I understand many of you are insanely exceptional candidates with stellar acceptances, but that doesn't necessarily mean you will hear anything anytime soon. I guess it just sounds strangely presumptuous to assume that you will, when other equally qualified candidates have been passed over. :)