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Byzantine wrote:

mikeylikesit wrote:

Byzantine wrote:

mikeylikesit wrote:Anyone who went complete yesterday (1/12) get held today?

UR 1/11. Not a word yet. I think we got some time.

Can someone clarify the different levels of "completion" here? Because I was UR 12/23, but got a complete email 1/12. I was under the impression that the complete email meant something different here, no?

Oh, so your status checker can say "File Under Review" long before you get the "Application complete" email? Can anyone weigh in on this?

When harvard says application complete, they mean that they are done with it. Not like the other (most) schools that use the word 'complete' to say that they successfully received all your application components such as LORs, essays, LSAT etc.

Byzantine wrote:

mikeylikesit wrote:

Byzantine wrote:

mikeylikesit wrote:Anyone who went complete yesterday (1/12) get held today?

UR 1/11. Not a word yet. I think we got some time.

Can someone clarify the different levels of "completion" here? Because I was UR 12/23, but got a complete email 1/12. I was under the impression that the complete email meant something different here, no?

Oh, so your status checker can say "File Under Review" long before you get the "Application complete" email? Can anyone weigh in on this?

Yes, this happens to a lot of people (myself included).

hypothalamus wrote:

Killingly wrote:

hypothalamus wrote:

Doorkeeper wrote:On the HLS blog post, they mention only holding people whose application went complete over 2 months ago. Anyone who went complete after around 11/13 should be safe for now.

TITCR.

I went complete 12/1 and was held...

I do have the impression that they use the "hold" as a sort of "look, we can't really tell you anything, but you've been waiting for a while, so we're acknowledging that we've looked at your application."

The only thing that makes me feel a little better than that is that they have issued a lot of rejections already.. and to people who submitted later than me. So maybe, just MAYBE getting held means something more than what you suggest?

Andddddd held.

so_fetch wrote:

Byzantine wrote:

mikeylikesit wrote:
Can someone clarify the different levels of "completion" here? Because I was UR 12/23, but got a complete email 1/12. I was under the impression that the complete email meant something different here, no?

Oh, so your status checker can say "File Under Review" long before you get the "Application complete" email? Can anyone weigh in on this?

When harvard says application complete, they mean that they are done with it. Not like the other (most) schools that use the word 'complete' to say that they successfully received all your application components such as LORs, essays, LSAT etc.

Ahhh got it. Thanksss!

so_fetch wrote: When harvard says application complete, they mean that they are done with it. Not like the other (most) schools that use the word 'complete' to say that they successfully received all your application components such as LORs, essays, LSAT etc.

so-fetch, are you sure that's as far as the meaning of "complete" goes? I called the admissions office between UR and complete, and the very nice lady there told me "oh yes, we have all your documents it seems, but your application is simply in the last stages of completion. you should get the complete email before the end of this week."

Held, dammit, held. WAY better than a rejection. Made me a bit happy because I know many people have already been rejected and I'm nowhere near Harvard medians, so it's a + for me.

hypothalamus wrote:

so_fetch wrote: When harvard says application complete, they mean that they are done with it. Not like the other (most) schools that use the word 'complete' to say that they successfully received all your application components such as LORs, essays, LSAT etc.

so-fetch, are you sure that's as far as the meaning of "complete" goes? I called the admissions office between UR and complete, and the very nice lady there told me "oh yes, we have all your documents it seems, but your application is simply in the last stages of completion. you should get the complete email before the end of this week."

There are two completes, I think. I went complete right before they started reviewing my app and again after, but only got an email one of those times I think.

They're still coming! They're still coming! (holds)

*frantically refreshes gmail*

Killingly wrote:HELD. WTF.

I have AUTO-REJECT numbers. AUTO-AUTO-AUTO-REJECT.

Same. Still far too happy about it.

Did everyone else who got held have their status change to today?

hypothalamus wrote:

so_fetch wrote: When harvard says application complete, they mean that they are done with it. Not like the other (most) schools that use the word 'complete' to say that they successfully received all your application components such as LORs, essays, LSAT etc.

so-fetch, are you sure that's as far as the meaning of "complete" goes? I called the admissions office between UR and complete, and the very nice lady there told me "oh yes, we have all your documents it seems, but your application is simply in the last stages of completion. you should get the complete email before the end of this week."

That almost makes it sound like "completion" means it has gone through the adcom and they have evaluated/ranked/graded it, and may take action sooner or later depending on the strength of your app.

hypothalamus wrote:

so_fetch wrote: When harvard says application complete, they mean that they are done with it. Not like the other (most) schools that use the word 'complete' to say that they successfully received all your application components such as LORs, essays, LSAT etc.

so-fetch, are you sure that's as far as the meaning of "complete" goes? I called the admissions office between UR and complete, and the very nice lady there told me "oh yes, we have all your documents it seems, but your application is simply in the last stages of completion. you should get the complete email before the end of this week."

No I am not 100% sure what complete means, I am just going off of observed patterns from other applicants who have shared on TLS. What is your theory on what it means? Maybe I am misinterpreting what you wrote about calling HLS but I don't think that my theory necessarily conflicts with your fact pattern

Just want to clarify...since there have been some breakouts of stress and misinterpretation induced misunderstandings on this site... I am also curious on this and not trying to start a fight or anything. Like I said before I am just going off of what others have said on here. I do not purport to be an expert on anything law school admissions related let alone harvard's admissions process

cogitoergosum wrote:Did everyone else who got held have their status change to today?

My under review date changed to today.

Does anybody know what percentage of the applicant pool gets "held" each year? And how many eventually get accepted? It seems there are a LOT of holds. Just wondering what one's chances are at this point?

cogitoergosum wrote:Did everyone else who got held have their status change to today?

mine did

fingerscrossedxx wrote:Does anybody know what percentage of the applicant pool gets "held" each year? And how many eventually get accepted? It seems there are a LOT of holds. Just wondering what one's chances are at this point?

It seems like way more holds this year than last year. No idea about the overall percentages, but about half of those who were held last year in the thread got KB1s eventually, about half of those eventually got in. The others were all waitlisted or disappeared.

so_fetch, the ways of HLS seem unknowable

I think the admissions lady technically used the phrase "final stages of processing," which made it sound more administrative than evaluative... But then again, a lot of KB1 people get the KB emails very soon after receiving the actual "complete" emails, which kind of provides support for your interpretation...

Everything is just so confusing.

fingerscrossedxx wrote:Does anybody know what percentage of the applicant pool gets "held" each year? And how many eventually get accepted? It seems there are a LOT of holds. Just wondering what one's chances are at this point?

Don't want to burst bubbles, but I've come to understand the Harvard hold is a soft Reject...I would love for someone to tell me I'm wrong .

rotaxkarter wrote:

fingerscrossedxx wrote:Does anybody know what percentage of the applicant pool gets "held" each year? And how many eventually get accepted? It seems there are a LOT of holds. Just wondering what one's chances are at this point?

Don't want to burst bubbles, but I've come to understand the Harvard hold is a soft Reject...I would love for someone to tell me I'm wrong .

Pretty sure that's wrong! Like snehpets said, I think about 25% of the holds eventually get in...

EDIT: Again... on the basis of TLS and LSN, not necessarily representative...

rotaxkarter wrote:

fingerscrossedxx wrote:Does anybody know what percentage of the applicant pool gets "held" each year? And how many eventually get accepted? It seems there are a LOT of holds. Just wondering what one's chances are at this point?

Don't want to burst bubbles, but I've come to understand the Harvard hold is a soft Reject...I would love for someone to tell me I'm wrong .

No. You can receive a KB1 as early as 2 days after a hold.

Elendil wrote:

rotaxkarter wrote:

fingerscrossedxx wrote:Does anybody know what percentage of the applicant pool gets "held" each year? And how many eventually get accepted? It seems there are a LOT of holds. Just wondering what one's chances are at this point?

Don't want to burst bubbles, but I've come to understand the Harvard hold is a soft Reject...I would love for someone to tell me I'm wrong .

Pretty sure that's wrong! Like snehpets said, I think about 25% of the holds eventually get in...

EDIT: Again... on the basis of TLS and LSN, not necessarily representative...

25% sounds pretty good..., I hope you're right

Elendil wrote:

rotaxkarter wrote:

fingerscrossedxx wrote:Does anybody know what percentage of the applicant pool gets "held" each year? And how many eventually get accepted? It seems there are a LOT of holds. Just wondering what one's chances are at this point?

Don't want to burst bubbles, but I've come to understand the Harvard hold is a soft Reject...I would love for someone to tell me I'm wrong .

Pretty sure that's wrong! Like snehpets said, I think about 25% of the holds eventually get in...

EDIT: Again... on the basis of TLS and LSN, not necessarily representative...

SO IF WE'RE ON LSN, WE HAVE A 25% CHANCE OF GETTING IN AFTER HOLD?

right right?! lol

icedflames wrote:

Elendil wrote:

rotaxkarter wrote:

fingerscrossedxx wrote:Does anybody know what percentage of the applicant pool gets "held" each year? And how many eventually get accepted? It seems there are a LOT of holds. Just wondering what one's chances are at this point?

Don't want to burst bubbles, but I've come to understand the Harvard hold is a soft Reject...I would love for someone to tell me I'm wrong .

Pretty sure that's wrong! Like snehpets said, I think about 25% of the holds eventually get in...

EDIT: Again... on the basis of TLS and LSN, not necessarily representative...

SO IF WE'RE ON LSN, WE HAVE A 25% CHANCE OF GETTING IN AFTER HOLD?

right right?! lol

EXACTLY!

So considering the fact that I didn't even want to apply to HYS, assuming I'd FOR SURE get rejected, I should be encouraged by the fact that I got held by Harvard Law?