Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby MumofCad » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:58 am

Schola wrote:
MumofCad wrote:
Schola wrote:I'm going to make two bold predictions:

1) More KB1s invites will come out today, in about an hour or so.
2) The first round of KB2s will come out this week before the KB1 interviews that are going to be scheduled before lunch today.


This is bold. So bold it sounds like insider information lol!


I'll throw in a magical third prediction for good measure:

W/in the next 6 months you are going to see Greece, Portugal, and/or Spain begin to impose capital controls, which will be the beginning of the end of the Eurozone experiment.


So if (1) and (2) don't pan out, can you guarantee my stock portfolio that (3) won't either?

Seriously though, there are KB1s from last week scheduled today so I doubt we'll hear any Kb2s. I see you are having fun with the anxiety surrounding this issue though. Glad someone is :)

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby annyong » Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:03 pm

Those are bold, but I'm going to disagree. My bad chance at predicting what otherwise had been a completely unpredictable cycle: interview invites go out today for end of week, then next week up to thanksgiving KB2s start...here's to hoping!

My KB1 was short but I felt like it went well. Usual questions, nothing specific to my app. She was very friendly and I made her laugh a few times so hopefully that counts for something!

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby gotxxya315 » Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:16 pm

anyone know what the average length has been between going UR + receiving a KB1 email, for those that have been fortunate enough to receive one already?

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Curious1 » Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:40 pm

gotxxya315 wrote:anyone know what the average length has been between going UR + receiving a KB1 email, for those that have been fortunate enough to receive one already?


It varies.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Curious1 » Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:40 pm

Schola wrote:I'm going to make two bold predictions:

1) More KB1s invites will come out today, in about an hour or so.
2) The first round of KB2s will come out this week before the KB1 interviews that are going to be scheduled before lunch today.


1 is more likely than 2, but fingers crossed nevertheless...

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby jetissent » Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:42 pm

I submitted on 11/2 and immediately received the status checker but have seen 0 progress since then. Is that normal? I am starting to get nervous.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby heavy » Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:58 pm

I am in the same position. Is it normal to wait this long for the complete indication?

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Curious1 » Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:06 pm

heavy wrote:I am in the same position. Is it normal to wait this long for the complete indication?


Yes.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby FryBreadPower » Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:16 pm

Any ideas when the early November (1st week) people will get their chance at KB1?

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby MumofCad » Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:25 pm

FryBreadPower wrote:Any ideas when the early November (1st week) people will get their chance at KB1?

I feel like the answer to this on LSN was the first week in Dec. You should check if you really want to know.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Nulli Secundus » Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:01 pm

Another 2 pages jump with no news. Augh.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Hawkeye Pierce » Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:02 pm

Nulli Secundus wrote:Another 2 pages jump with no news. Augh.


Yeah :( Maybe no KB1s got sent out today?

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Schola » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:07 pm

Oh well, looks like I was off a bit in my prediction about KB1s today. But I stand by my prediction about the Eurozone.

For those of you who didn't get KB1s today, the upshot is that you won't have to wait as long between KB1s and KB2s!

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Sh@keNb@ke » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:19 am

Has anyone who has been UR since the first couple days of November received a KB1 yet?

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Mustapha.Mond » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:53 am

LaCumparsita wrote:My vote is for November 21st too. It seems like the KB1s are not as spaced out as last year's, so I think they may be aiming for the same date as 2010 (Monday before Thanksgiving.) I may also be foolishly optimistic. :)


Though I would very much like KB2s to be made as soon as possible, I do not think that they will be made prior to Thanksgiving. Those people who asked during the interview when decisions would be made were told that they would be made at the end of the month, which I think quite clearly refers to 11/28, 11/29, and/or 11/30. I hope I am wrong.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Curious1 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:22 am

Hawkeye Pierce wrote:
Nulli Secundus wrote:Another 2 pages jump with no news. Augh.


Yeah :( Maybe no KB1s got sent out today?


Ok, officially given up.

God willing, I'll get one in March as they're trying to fill up the last few spots. If not, Columbia here I come.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby LaCumparsita » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:39 am

Don't give up hope! From the data, it looks like they're interviewing people with higher GPAs first (I'm not sure why.) Your numbers are awesome, I'm sure you'll eventually get one. And hopefully not as late as March.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Schola » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:22 pm

LaCumparsita wrote:Don't give up hope! From the data, it looks like they're interviewing people with higher GPAs first (I'm not sure why.) Your numbers are awesome, I'm sure you'll eventually get one. And hopefully not as late as March.


I would also agree with this. It would seem that the transition from JR to KB has slowed this up a bit, but I don't think that means you should give up hope!

Also, I suspect that applications will be way down this year, and even if this will affect the lower tiered schools more than the T14, it will undoubtedly affect even YHS.

Based on the LSAC data found on the website, the the number of ABA applicants fell by 9.9% last application cycle. (As an aside, I am assuming that "Fall 2011" refers to the 2010-2011 application cycle, but I don't know how else to read the chart since if you look down the page, you will see that Fall 2011 lines up w/ the people who took the LSAT in the 2010-2011 cycle). This year, the number of applicants will likely fall farther, probably to about 72,000 or 73,000.

I get this estimation by observing that over the last decade the number of LSATs taken per ABA applicant has crept up from about 1.5 per applicant to 2.0. Since the number of LSATs this cycle is on track to being in the mid 140,000s, and 146,000/2 is 73,000, I estimate that there will be about 73,000 applicants this cycle. That is over a 6% decrease from last year, over a 17% decrease from two years ago, and a 25% decrease from the peak number of applicants back during the 2003-2004 cycle.

This will surely hurt lower tiered schools more than top tier schools, because the number of ABA matriculants (i.e. the number of seats in law school) has increased by about 4000 over the last decade, suggesting that it will be difficult for osme schools to even fill their classes. But even top tiered schools witnessed a significant increase in the number of applicants in recent years (e.g. Cornell saw a 50% increase in the 2009-2010 cycle), which must have had SOME impact on their medians (assuming that 100% of that increase didn't come from applicants who were below the median and/or applicants who went to higher ranked law schools and/or applicants for whatever reason didn't go to Cornell at all, which seems a reasonable assumption to me). Thus, despite what KB has told some people, I can't imagine that the >6% drop in applicants won't make it even a little more difficult for schools like Harvard to put together the caliber of class that they are used to having.

This is all a long way of saying that if, based on LSN, you think you would have had a shot last year and the year before, you have all the more reason to believe that you have a shot this year!
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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Schola » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:28 pm

And I would add to this that the advent of the Rubenstein and the new Northwestern ED program will likely pick off at least a few students who would have gone to HYS otherwise. And while picking off, say, 10 students who would otherwise have gone to HYS is only 1% of the ~1000 who matriculate at HYS, 1% less competition, on top of the probable drop in applicants, offers all the more reason for those on the threshold of acceptance to hold out hope.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby jetissent » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:37 pm

Just went under review.

Applied 11/2.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby Hawkeye Pierce » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:10 pm

Curious1 wrote:
Hawkeye Pierce wrote:
Nulli Secundus wrote:Another 2 pages jump with no news. Augh.


Yeah :( Maybe no KB1s got sent out today?


Ok, officially given up.

God willing, I'll get one in March as they're trying to fill up the last few spots. If not, Columbia here I come.


I'm starting to feel the same way.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby thatkid » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:14 pm

Do not be discouraged, fellow KB1less TLSers. It's only November 15th. It's starting to look fairly likely that we won't be among the very first admitted, but I find it very difficult to believe that none of the incredibly accomplished posters who have yet to receive an interview will be admitted. I, for one, refuse to panic before 2012.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby splbagel » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:25 pm

thatkid wrote:Do not be discouraged, fellow KB1less TLSers. It's only November 15th. It's starting to look fairly likely that we won't be among the very first admitted, but I find it very difficult to believe that none of the incredibly accomplished posters who have yet to receive an interview will be admitted. I, for one, refuse to panic before 2012.


Thanks!! I've been "under review" since 10/28, numbers at and above medians... should I not expect KB1 until after Thanksgiving, if at all?

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby euskadi » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:04 pm

Schola wrote:And I would add to this that the advent of the Rubenstein and the new Northwestern ED program will likely pick off at least a few students who would have gone to HYS otherwise. And while picking off, say, 10 students who would otherwise have gone to HYS is only 1% of the ~1000 who matriculate at HYS, 1% less competition, on top of the probable drop in applicants, offers all the more reason for those on the threshold of acceptance to hold out hope.


I like you.

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Re: Harvard 2012 applicants (class of 2015)

Postby mickeyD » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:13 pm

Sh@keNb@ke wrote:Has anyone who has been UR since the first couple days of November received a KB1 yet?


Wondering this as well.




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