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just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby eatmyshorts » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:16 pm

Can i negotiate a better Merit Scholarship?

the tuition to this 4th tier law school is 40K and the Merit Schol. is only 7K. Can i negotiate and ask for at least 20K scholarship to attend?

is this possible?

thanks in advance, i will be using this forum a lot in the near future it seems!

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby bk1 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:18 pm

You can try but you will almost assuredly fail in negotiating for more money since you have no leverage which is usually in the form of a large scholarship somewhere else or an acceptance to a better school.

Also, you really shouldn't go to a fourth tier law school.

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Postby booboo » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:21 pm

Is this for the coming school session, 2011-2012?

Can you reapply? If you are going to go a T4, apply to schools around that school, and try to juggle the scholarships you'll get between them to maximize the value. a 13k yearly bump in scholarship is quite unlikely from a law school (which are usually very stingy with aid) without some sort of pressure.

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Postby eatmyshorts » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:36 pm

booboo wrote:Is this for the coming school session, 2011-2012?

Can you reapply? If you are going to go a T4, apply to schools around that school, and try to juggle the scholarships you'll get between them to maximize the value. a 13k yearly bump in scholarship is quite unlikely from a law school (which are usually very stingy with aid) without some sort of pressure.

yeah wanted to go this year if i go. classes are starting in a few weeks.

Figure they need a few more students badly now so i can leverage them by saying I am applying to better schools for next year if they dont higher the offer.

Also how would i even ask for more scholarship, do i need to send an email or call up?

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Postby law4vus » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:38 pm

eatmyshorts wrote:Figure they need a few more students badly now so i can leverage them by saying I am applying to better schools for next year if they dont higher the offer.


Do you have the numbers to apply to better schools with a reasonable chance of getting in? If not, then it won't give you much leverage.

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby booboo » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:41 pm

eatmyshorts wrote:
booboo wrote:Is this for the coming school session, 2011-2012?

Can you reapply? If you are going to go a T4, apply to schools around that school, and try to juggle the scholarships you'll get between them to maximize the value. a 13k yearly bump in scholarship is quite unlikely from a law school (which are usually very stingy with aid) without some sort of pressure.

yeah wanted to go this year if i go. classes are starting in a few weeks.

Figure they need a few more students badly now so i can leverage them by saying I am applying to better schools for next year if they dont higher the offer.

Also how would i even ask for more scholarship, do i need to send an email or call up?


Though it could be fruitless trying, you undoubtedly have to try. Your theory may hold true, they rather have some money from a student than an empty seat. Email is fine, I think a phone call could get awkward if the person you talk to isn't in the position to handle your inquiry. I'd be careful how you go about asking for more, though. Make sure it's done "well."

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby NYC Law » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:44 pm

What's your gpa and lsat? Don't go though, you'll have to wait this year out. Take advantage of this time to study for the October LSAT, get some work experience, and re-evaluate your goals to determine if you REALLY want to go to law school.

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Postby eatmyshorts » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:49 pm

NYC Law wrote:What's your gpa and lsat? Don't go though, you'll have to wait this year out. Take advantage of this time to study for the October LSAT, get some work experience, and re-evaluate your goals to determine if you REALLY want to go to law school.

152 and 3.2 GPA

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Postby Bildungsroman » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:50 pm

If you know ahead of time that it's a crappy law school, why would you go to it?

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Postby NYC Law » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:54 pm

eatmyshorts wrote:
NYC Law wrote:What's your gpa and lsat? Don't go though, you'll have to wait this year out. Take advantage of this time to study for the October LSAT, get some work experience, and re-evaluate your goals to determine if you REALLY want to go to law school.

152 and 3.2 GPA


Your GPA isn't that bad, just try retaking in October and reapply to schools early in the next cycle.

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby Transferthrowaway » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:56 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:If you know ahead of time that it's a crappy law school, why would you go to it?

Didn't you hear about that '86 grad of Crappy Law School who lucked into a lucrative position making millions?

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Postby law4vus » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:02 pm

NYC Law wrote:
eatmyshorts wrote:
NYC Law wrote:What's your gpa and lsat? Don't go though, you'll have to wait this year out. Take advantage of this time to study for the October LSAT, get some work experience, and re-evaluate your goals to determine if you REALLY want to go to law school.

152 and 3.2 GPA


Your GPA isn't that bad, just try retaking in October and reapply to schools early in the next cycle.


Agreed. I have only a slightly higher GPA but my LSAT score got me into a T20. Focus hard on the LSAT and get the 165+.

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby eatmyshorts » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:13 pm

law4vus wrote:
NYC Law wrote:
eatmyshorts wrote:
NYC Law wrote:What's your gpa and lsat? Don't go though, you'll have to wait this year out. Take advantage of this time to study for the October LSAT, get some work experience, and re-evaluate your goals to determine if you REALLY want to go to law school.

152 and 3.2 GPA


Your GPA isn't that bad, just try retaking in October and reapply to schools early in the next cycle.


Agreed. I have only a slightly higher GPA but my LSAT score got me into a T20. Focus hard on the LSAT and get the 165+.


truth is i already took Lsat a few times and got 152 both times. But I am/was lazy and studied about a total of 15 hours for each test and i just wanted to get into a law school and work my way from there.

Considering taking Lsat again and really studying this time but i hate losing another year as i 25 now and doing nothing anyways right now

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby cinephile » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:38 pm

eatmyshorts wrote:
truth is i already took Lsat a few times and got 152 both times. But I am/was lazy and studied about a total of 15 hours for each test and i just wanted to get into a law school and work my way from there.

Considering taking Lsat again and really studying this time but i hate losing another year as i 25 now and doing nothing anyways right now


But if you're too lazy to study now for 1 test, how can you be sure you'll have the discipline to study for multiple law school exams each semester?

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Postby thedive » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:40 pm

40k tuition for a TTTT? You might want to search the name of your school with "third tier reality" on Google.

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Postby kwais » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:44 pm

cinephile wrote:
eatmyshorts wrote:
truth is i already took Lsat a few times and got 152 both times. But I am/was lazy and studied about a total of 15 hours for each test and i just wanted to get into a law school and work my way from there.

Considering taking Lsat again and really studying this time but i hate losing another year as i 25 now and doing nothing anyways right now


But if you're too lazy to study now for 1 test, how can you be sure you'll have the discipline to study for multiple law school exams each semester?


this. this. and this. What in world do expect in law school? don't go, fo reals

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby eatmyshorts » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:51 pm

kwais wrote:
cinephile wrote:
eatmyshorts wrote:
truth is i already took Lsat a few times and got 152 both times. But I am/was lazy and studied about a total of 15 hours for each test and i just wanted to get into a law school and work my way from there.

Considering taking Lsat again and really studying this time but i hate losing another year as i 25 now and doing nothing anyways right now


But if you're too lazy to study now for 1 test, how can you be sure you'll have the discipline to study for multiple law school exams each semester?


this. this. and this. What in world do expect in law school? don't go, fo reals

my goal was just get into one, I know that was a messed up philosophy. Once I am in a law school i know I can be near the top of the class if I tried. Now I have to weigh the going to crappy school vs the year it takes to get into another program

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby Transferthrowaway » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:53 pm

This must absolutely be a flame.

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Postby thedive » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:54 pm

eatmyshorts wrote:
kwais wrote:
cinephile wrote:
eatmyshorts wrote:
truth is i already took Lsat a few times and got 152 both times. But I am/was lazy and studied about a total of 15 hours for each test and i just wanted to get into a law school and work my way from there.

Considering taking Lsat again and really studying this time but i hate losing another year as i 25 now and doing nothing anyways right now


But if you're too lazy to study now for 1 test, how can you be sure you'll have the discipline to study for multiple law school exams each semester?


this. this. and this. What in world do expect in law school? don't go, fo reals

my goal was just get into one, I know that was a messed up philosophy. Once I am in a law school i know I can be near the top of the class if I tried. Now I have to weigh the going to crappy school vs the year it takes to get into another program


This is going to end well.

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby NYC Law » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:54 pm

Transferthrowaway wrote:This must absolutely be a flame.


+1, that's why I quit responding.

the username (and thread title and ridiculous attitude) sorta gives it away

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby cinephile » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:08 pm

In case you're serious, here's a story of someone who ended up top third at his TTT and still ended up jobless and in tons of debt.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=162036

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby CanadianWolf » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:44 pm

What are your numbers ? 152 LSAT & 3.2 GPA ? To which other law schools were you accepted ? Which law school offered the $7,000 (JMLS Atlanta ?) ? What do you have that would allow you to negotiate ?

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Postby crumpetsandtea » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:25 pm

eatmyshorts wrote: if they dont higher the offer.

eatmyshorts wrote:But I am/was lazy and studied about a total of 15 hours for each test and i just wanted to get into a law school and work my way from there...i hate losing another year as i 25 now and doing nothing anyways right now

lolwat.

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby firemed » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:38 pm

eatmyshorts wrote:my goal was just get into one, I know that was a messed up philosophy. Once I am in a law school i know I can be near the top of the class if I tried. Now I have to weigh the going to crappy school vs the year it takes to get into another program



Assuming this isn't a flame the bolded is totally unrealistic. Look into law school grading policies. There might even be a wikipedia article on it. If you can't find anything just ask... we'll be happy to explain it to you.

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Re: just got accepted to a pretty crappy law school, question..

Postby eatmyshorts » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:05 pm

firemed wrote:
eatmyshorts wrote:my goal was just get into one, I know that was a messed up philosophy. Once I am in a law school i know I can be near the top of the class if I tried. Now I have to weigh the going to crappy school vs the year it takes to get into another program



Assuming this isn't a flame the bolded is totally unrealistic. Look into law school grading policies. There might even be a wikipedia article on it. If you can't find anything just ask... we'll be happy to explain it to you.

guys no flaming here. I am/was a lazy person and just took things too easily. Now I am seriously trying to do something with my life and thinking of law school




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