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Denied - then admitted

Postby ValerOn1820 » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:07 pm

Hey, guys!

There's a question^

If there is any possibillity that - you've been denied by law school you've applied for - but with some time it can change its mind and admit you.
Were there any precedents or etc.?

Thanks!

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby red_alertz » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:10 pm

could happen, but rare, i suggest you appeal

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby ValerOn1820 » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:11 pm

How's that - to appeal?

To appeal the denial decision?

But on what factors or so?)

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby red_alertz » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:18 pm

most decisions r final probably, so u r really just trying to get extremely lucky, visit the school in person, email admission, call admissions, wahtever it takes, ask why u were rejected or offer some reason why u should be in, 99.9% won't work though

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby gbpackerbacker » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:21 pm

red_alertz wrote:most decisions r final probably, so u r really just trying to get extremely lucky, visit the school in person, email admission, call admissions, wahtever it takes, ask why u were rejected or offer some reason why u should be in, 99.9% won't work though


Yeah, probably not a good idea at all. Especially if you wanted any relationship with the school in the future. If they were still willing to consider you then they probably would have waitlisted you.

I would advise against contacting them again about this decision. You could always try again next cycle. Good luck.

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby CanadianWolf » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:31 pm

Was the denial issued before or after your Pulitzer ?

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby LilMan'sMom » Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:13 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:Was the denial issued before or after your Pulitzer?


+1 :wink:

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby firemed » Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:33 pm

ValerOn1820 wrote:Hey, guys!

There's a question^

If there is any possibillity that - you've been denied by law school you've applied for - but with some time it can change its mind and admit you.
Were there any precedents or etc.?

Thanks!



This almost never happens. Occasionally someone will get a denial and then get an email a day or two later stating that was in error. But if you got a denial more than a week ago, it is done. Apply again next year if it is vitally important to you.

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby ValerOn1820 » Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:52 am

:wink: Thanx

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby caligulove » Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:56 am

OP, I almost ignored this thread until I saw something I had to make right. Your use of hyphens is way off track. You should use them only to embed an aside within a sentence, like you would use two commas.
Last edited by caligulove on Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:43 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby snaps » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:04 am

caligulove wrote:OP, I almost ignored this thread until I saw something I had to make right. You're use of hyphens is way off track. You should use them only to embed an aside within a sentence, like you would use two commas.



I almost ignored this until I saw something I had to make right. Your use of "you're" is way off track. You should not have used a contraction there.

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby JamMasterJ » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:33 am

snaps wrote:
caligulove wrote:OP, I almost ignored this thread until I saw something I had to make right. You're use of hyphens is way off track. You should use them only to embed an aside within a sentence, like you would use two commas.



I almost ignored this until I saw something I had to make right. Your use of "you're" is way off track. You should not have used a contraction there.

+1000 on calling out d-bags who make fun of grammar on internet forums

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby caligulove » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:47 am

JamMasterJ wrote:
snaps wrote:
caligulove wrote:OP, I almost ignored this thread until I saw something I had to make right. You're use of hyphens is way off track. You should use them only to embed an aside within a sentence, like you would use two commas.



I almost ignored this until I saw something I had to make right. Your use of "you're" is way off track. You should not have used a contraction there.

+1000 on calling out d-bags who make fun of grammar on internet forums


edited. It's not making fun, but if this person is going to be a lawyer then they should probably use hyphens correctly, or not use them at all. If it was just a typo or "forum grammar" I wouldn't have said anything; their mistake indicated a severe misunderstanding as to how hyphens should be used. It was meant to be helpful. ya heard?

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby powerlawyer06 » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:58 am

caligulove wrote:edited. It's not making fun, but if this person is going to be a lawyer then they should probably use hyphens correctly, or not use them at all. If it was just a typo or "forum grammar" I wouldn't have said anything; their mistake indicated a severe misunderstanding as to how hyphens should be used. It was meant to be helpful. ya heard?


I don't think you understand why you looked like a jerk. So....

If you going to be a lawyer then they should probably use "your" correctly, or not use it at all. If it was just a typo or "forum grammar" I wouldn't have said anything; your mistake indicated a severe misunderstanding as to how "your" and "you're" should be used. This was meant to be helpful.

Does it make a little more sense now?

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby caligulove » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:37 am

powerlawyer06 wrote:
caligulove wrote:edited. It's not making fun, but if this person is going to be a lawyer then they should probably use hyphens correctly, or not use them at all. If it was just a typo or "forum grammar" I wouldn't have said anything; their mistake indicated a severe misunderstanding as to how hyphens should be used. It was meant to be helpful. ya heard?


I don't think you understand why you looked like a jerk. So....

If you going to be a lawyer then they should probably use "your" correctly, or not use it at all. If it was just a typo or "forum grammar" I wouldn't have said anything; your mistake indicated a severe misunderstanding as to how "your" and "you're" should be used. This was meant to be helpful.

Does it make a little more sense now?


i going to be a lawyer. power indeed.

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby Grizz » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:43 am

red_alertz wrote:could happen, but rare, i suggest you appeal retake and reapply

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby Drake014 » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:52 am

ValerOn1820 wrote:Hey, guys!

There's a question^

If there is any possibillity that - you've been denied by law school you've applied for - but with some time it can change its mind and admit you.
Were there any precedents or etc.?

Thanks!


This does not happen.

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby PDaddy » Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:20 am

gbpackerbacker wrote:
red_alertz wrote:most decisions r final probably, so u r really just trying to get extremely lucky, visit the school in person, email admission, call admissions, wahtever it takes, ask why u were rejected or offer some reason why u should be in, 99.9% won't work though


Yeah, probably not a good idea at all. Especially if you wanted any relationship with the school in the future. If they were still willing to consider you then they probably would have waitlisted you.

I would advise against contacting them again about this decision. You could always try again next cycle. Good luck.


WRONG! In some cases it is ok to appeal, but you must have really good grounds. As a rule, they are like jailhouse appeals, 90% unsuccessful. If you have a new LSAT score, or something drastic alters your profile, you should appeal. If you believe there may be errors, you should appeal. But an appeal should be treated like an entirely new application, which means submitting an additional LOR and a supplemental essay (use the "Why school X" topic if you haven't written one) with the new score or information.

Even if successful, you will likely go from a deny to a waitlist or waitlist to admit, at best. Rarely does anyone jump from deny to admit, but it does happen. I am sure there are plenty of stories right here on TLS where denied applicants became WL'd students during the summer. A few may have actually gotten in during orientation week.

Even if you manage to jump from denied to waitlisted, that jump has value, and here's why: If you don't attend law school that year, you can apply again in the next cycle. If you apply early during the next cycle, the adcom now knows how badly you want to go to its school. After all, you will be sending in for example a November 2010 app, a petition for reconsideration sometime between March and June of 2010, and a new, more polished app for early decision in September 2011, after having recently jumped from denied to waitlisted. That scenario can happen, and there are adcoms that reward that type of tenacity and determination.

The flip side. Is this a risky tactic? Yes! For one, you may run out of good material to write about, though a really good writer like me never does. lol. Furthermore, some adcoms might feel that they have seen all there is to see in your profile, so the new app may need to be extraordinary. It depends on the school. It is always good to consider retooling for the next cycle and not petitioning for reconsideration for those reasons. Fresh score, fresh essays, fresh LOR...you look like a new and better candidate.

In many ways, putting together a law school application is like putting together a case. In that way, you have to be judicious about what you include and what you don't. When you tell the judges (i.e., the adcoms about something and when you wait until later, ex: optional essays, new LOR's). A petition for reconsideration is a "motion" at the trial level. What new informnation that could not have been presented can now be presented? Did the adcom show manifest error? How? And how will you show that without turning them against you? These are questions lawyers deal with every day.

If you want to go for it, go for it. Just make sure you use good judgment and put your best foot forward.

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby Lawquacious » Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:29 am

CanadianWolf wrote:Was the denial issued before or after your Pulitzer ?

h
+1

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby glacierfrost » Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:50 am

I have heard of one case where a denial was appealed and then became a waitlist. I don't know if the person ended up getting in.

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby HOPEFORCHANGE » Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:31 pm

Unless you already know the reason (e.g. you applied late, your LSAT or GPA is too low, etc.), I don't think it would hurt to e-mail them and ask them how you could improve your chances for next cycle. Tell them you're very interested in the school and you yes, you would have a much better shot applying next cycle (whichever school).

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby Stanford4Me » Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:32 pm

You were rejected for a reason.

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby Sandro » Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:15 pm

You get in where you fit in. Let .... it....go

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby KingTaco » Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:38 pm

My friend got into Georgetown after being formally rejected via Email. About 4 days later, he was admitted. I did not ask what the circumstances were, but it wasn't anything done wrongly on the part of my friend. He didn't submit anything new or appealed. HTH.

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Re: Denied - then admitted

Postby Stanford4Me » Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:40 pm

KingTaco wrote:My friend got into Georgetown after being formally rejected via Email. About 4 days later, he was admitted. I did not ask what the circumstances were, but it wasn't anything done wrongly on the part of my friend. He didn't submit anything new or appealed. HTH.

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