Of note if you're thinking about Big Law from T2

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Of note if you're thinking about Big Law from T2

Postby suzee401 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:14 pm

This is a direct quote from a friend of mine when I asked her about T2 schools and Big Law:
"In all seriousness it is extremely hard to get a big firm job from a second tier school in NY unless you're in the top 10%. A second tier school outside of NYC is honestly next to impossible."

As for getting in from a law school... "Fordham (which I would argue is tier 1), Brooklyn, Cardozo, St. Johns, Hofstra" - in that order.

I have seen some people asking about which NY school to go to - so there's some info straight from someone who hires.

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Postby patrickd139 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:16 pm

:lol: noob

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Postby Justathought » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:18 pm

Well, I won't get these 10 secs of my life back. Thanks! :x

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Re: Of note if you're thinking about Big Law from T2

Postby EstboundNDwn » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:45 pm

suzee401 wrote:This is a direct quote from a friend of mine when I asked her about T2 schools and Big Law:
"In all seriousness it is extremely hard to get a big firm job from a second tier school in NY unless you're in the top 10%. A second tier school outside of NYC is honestly next to impossible."

As for getting in from a law school... "Fordham (which I would argue is tier 1), Brooklyn, Cardozo, St. Johns, Hofstra" - in that order.

I have seen some people asking about which NY school to go to - so there's some info straight from someone who hires.


Yeahhh right. You're lying.

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Postby bk1 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:47 pm

Wait, this is from your friend? Well shit I guess I'm not going to St. John's at sticker anymore.

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Re: Of note if you're thinking about Big Law from T2

Postby PurplePirate » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:50 pm

How about this: "If you're thinking about Biglaw from T2, don't."

fixed

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Re: Of note if you're thinking about Big Law from T2

Postby bk1 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:51 pm

PurplePirate wrote:"If you're thinking about Biglaw from T2 any school lower than T12, don't."


There, that's better.

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Postby PurplePirate » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:53 pm

bk1 wrote:
PurplePirate wrote:"If you're thinking about Biglaw from T2 any school lower than T12, don't."


There, that's better.


TITCR

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Re: Of note if you're thinking about Big Law from T2

Postby w.ftw » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:16 pm

Yes, the other 90% is fucked.
/sarcasm

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Re: Of note if you're thinking about Big Law from T2

Postby splitmuch » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:17 pm

PurplePirate wrote:
bk1 wrote:
PurplePirate wrote:"If you're thinking about Biglaw from T2 any school lower than T12, don't."


There, that's better.


TITCR



Didn't Cornell have good numbers?

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Postby FiveSermon » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:19 pm

bk1 wrote:
PurplePirate wrote:"If you're thinking about Biglaw from T2 any school lower than T12, don't."


There, that's better.


Egregious anti Cornell trolling. Duke has only outplaced Cornell once in the last 6-7 years. What happens to your t12 now!??!?

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Postby bk1 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:20 pm

FiveSermon wrote:
bk1 wrote:
PurplePirate wrote:"If you're thinking about Biglaw from T2 any school lower than T12, don't."


There, that's better.


Egregious anti Cornell trolling. Duke has only outplaced Cornell once in the last 6-7 years. What happens to your t12 now!??!?


I felt like being generous. Should have probably axed out Duke too (or heck, cut it to T6) but I didn't feel like getting the ire of pro-Duke trolls or anti-NYU trolls.

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Re: Of note if you're thinking about Big Law from T2

Postby icouldbuyu » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:21 pm

suzee401 wrote:This is a direct quote from a friend of mine when I asked her about T2 schools and Big Law:
"In all seriousness it is extremely hard to get a big firm job from a second tier school in NY unless you're in the top 10%. A second tier school outside of NYC is honestly next to impossible."

As for getting in from a law school... "Fordham (which I would argue is tier 1), Brooklyn, Cardozo, St. Johns, Hofstra" - in that order.

I have seen some people asking about which NY school to go to - so there's some info straight from someone who hires.


Fordham isn't a T2?

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Postby FiveSermon » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:24 pm

bk1 wrote:
FiveSermon wrote:
bk1 wrote:
PurplePirate wrote:"If you're thinking about Biglaw from T2 any school lower than T12, don't."


There, that's better.


Egregious anti Cornell trolling. Duke has only outplaced Cornell once in the last 6-7 years. What happens to your t12 now!??!?


I felt like being generous. Should have probably axed out Duke too (or heck, cut it to T6) but I didn't feel like getting the ire of pro-Duke trolls or anti-NYU trolls.


Too generous. Only real hierarchical difference within the T13 I see are T6 and probably Penn vs everyone else. I guess I'm bit of a Cornell troll though.

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Postby bk1 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:28 pm

FiveSermon wrote:Too generous. Only real hierarchical difference within the T13 I see are T6 and probably Penn vs everyone else. I guess I'm bit of a Cornell troll though.


Eh, I don't buy the "GULC is significantly worse than Cornell" argument considering much higher PI/gov placement.

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Postby FiveSermon » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:30 pm

bk1 wrote:
FiveSermon wrote:Too generous. Only real hierarchical difference within the T13 I see are T6 and probably Penn vs everyone else. I guess I'm bit of a Cornell troll though.


Eh, I don't buy the "GULC is significantly worse than Cornell" argument considering much higher PI/gov placement.


I knew they placed higher into PI but do they really place much higher into gov?

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Postby FiveSermon » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:39 pm

bk1 wrote:
FiveSermon wrote:I knew they placed higher into PI but do they really place much higher into gov?


In 2005 it looks like 50-70% more gov, but it's hard to tell just by eyeballing it.

In 2009 the gap seemed to widen with GULC having 4x as much government placement as Cornell as well as almost 5x the PI.

Cornell is very very firm focused.


Thanks good to know.

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Re: Of note if you're thinking about Big Law from T2

Postby Stringer Bell » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:43 pm

OP, how on earth did you join this site 3.5 years ago and think that this thread would be informative?

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Re: Of note if you're thinking about Big Law from T2

Postby dshirs32 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:50 pm

Dumb thread...of course it is difficult to get biglaw from a T2 (especially from T2s located in the most competitive legal market, which you chose to highlight); we all know this.

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Postby red_alertz » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:56 pm

top 100 schools are good schools

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Postby TheFactor » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:37 pm

red_alertz wrote:top 100 schools are good schools

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Postby red_alertz » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:38 pm

top 100 schools are good schools

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Re: Of note if you're thinking about Big Law from T2

Postby Ty Webb » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:42 pm

Thread is not only redundant but just wrong. I would argue that it's much easier to get a Biglaw job out of, say, the University of Houston than it is to get a Biglaw job out of Brooklyn/St. Johns.
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