rocon7383 wrote:Well the 50 schools you mentioned are not better than Fordham at getting these feeder jobs in NY. So I reject the "I am saying you're statistically setting yourself up for disappointment, AND (if you go to Fordham) piles of debt." That should be or!!!!! haha. Because after all, after the top 14 aren't you pretty much always statistically setting yourself up for failure the same way a baseball player always sets himself up to fail at the plate, statistically. Everyone has a 10% chance of being in the top 10% of their class.
I may be misunderstanding the substance of what you're getting at here, but if you think all students at the 10% level are equal (i.e. BLS and BC) or that by graduating from Fordham you're guaranteed a job in NYC--much less the type your posts in this thread suggest that you're shooting for--I fear you're deluding yourself. At most, you can bank on median grades at any law school, and should plan accordingly.
Also, many of those 50 schools I alluded to are better at getting you a job in NYC. For example, I'd wager that top 25% at Texas, Emory or GWU takes jobs from median Fordham students all day long. Same with top % students at schools well below Fordham's rank. Just because Fordham places above it's rank in big law does not mean going there gets you big law.
We are definitely misunderstanding what the other says. My point about top 10% was only to say that going to any law school, outside of the very top institutions, is always statistically risky. But based on what type of law I want to practice, I find it more dangerous to take a full ride at a school like st. johns than full cost at Fordham due to job prospects, especially to those who fall out of the very top of their class.
I know that a student from GWU, Emory etc with a better ranking than a Fordham student could take a NYC job from them, and generally your rank reigns supreme at comparable schools, but there is no denying the enormous network Fordham has in New York.
Lastly, I know there isn't some predetermined causality between Fordham and biglaw, I apologize if that is how my point came across. I understand the apprehension regarding NYC schools not named NYU and Columbia but if you look at my post a little ways up on this thread you'll note that I am set on staying in New York for what I think are some good reasons.