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denisea wrote:

red_alertz wrote:

denisea wrote:

HoustonOrBust wrote:Hi TLS,
I am 3.6/153/Public Relations, wait listed and losing my mind waiting to hear something. I figure it's got to be my LSAT score. Has anyone been accepted with a 153 or under?

Hey, 150 and 3.6 GPA. Was accepted to Wake Forest and UC Hastings. Waitlisted at W&M.

how did you manage that? URM? real strong softs?

Strong softs. I have 10 years work experience (worked in a jail for the Sheriff's dept), African American Studies major (which no one does, I am the only one graduating with it from Columbia this year), and great LOR's.

Combination of softs and URM status....you're like me. We don't count in this thread.

denisea wrote:

red_alertz wrote:

denisea wrote:

HoustonOrBust wrote:Hi TLS,

Hey, 150 and 3.6 GPA. Was accepted to Wake Forest and UC Hastings. Waitlisted at W&M.

how did you manage that? URM? real strong softs?

Strong softs. I have 10 years work experience (worked in a jail for the Sheriff's dept), African American Studies major (which no one does, I am the only one graduating with it from Columbia this year), and great LOR's.

Combination of softs and URM status....you're like me. We don't count in this thread.

Really? Oh damn. My bad.

jmill wrote:I've been accepted places (T2/T3/T4) with a 150 LSAT. Surprisingly even waitlisted at UT and American.

With a 150 and 3.1, you must have cured a rare disease to have been WL'd at UT. Good on ya.

ScrabbleChamp wrote:

jmill wrote:I've been accepted places (T2/T3/T4) with a 150 LSAT. Surprisingly even waitlisted at UT and American.

With a 150 and 3.1, you must have cured a rare disease to have been WL'd at UT. Good on ya.

No cure for a rare disease, but the reaserch project i designed and carried out is/was fairly unique. I fully expected a flat out reject from UT, but as a Texan I had to throw them an app just in case.

Would Southeast Asain (Indonesian) count as an URM?

KiraMarie wrote:Would Southeast Asain (Indonesian) count as an URM?

never

80884 wrote:

KiraMarie wrote:Would Southeast Asain (Indonesian) count as an URM?

never

LOL! Why not? How many Indonesian lawyers do you know?!
I am sure no one can forget those devasting tsunamis in Indonesia a few years ago. Sympathy approach not working huh?

denisea wrote:

HoustonOrBust wrote:Hi TLS,
I am 3.6/153/Public Relations, wait listed and losing my mind waiting to hear something. I figure it's got to be my LSAT score. Has anyone been accepted with a 153 or under?

Hey, 150 and 3.6 GPA. Was accepted to Wake Forest and UC Hastings. Waitlisted at W&M.

wow!!! congrats on the UC hasting...!! I got rejected with 152 & 3.6.... golden gate took me in but with their ridiculous tuition, their "scholarship" doesn't cover much.

VERY surprised to see U of Washington waitlist me with 152 & 3.6!! ...maybe it was a sympathy vote since its my alma mater....

crossing my fingers and hoping MANY will decline to attend....

KiraMarie wrote:

80884 wrote:

KiraMarie wrote:Would Southeast Asain (Indonesian) count as an URM?

never

LOL! Why not? How many Indonesian lawyers do you know?!
I am sure no one can forget those devasting tsunamis in Indonesia a few years ago. Sympathy approach not working huh?

All kind of Asians (except Lao, Hmong, Khmer, and North Korean) = ORM ! and I am one of ORMs too.

80884 wrote:

KiraMarie wrote:

80884 wrote:

KiraMarie wrote:Would Southeast Asain (Indonesian) count as an URM?

never

LOL! Why not? How many Indonesian lawyers do you know?!
I am sure no one can forget those devasting tsunamis in Indonesia a few years ago. Sympathy approach not working huh?

All kind of Asians (except Lao, Hmong, Khmer, and North Korean) = ORM ! and I am one of ORMs too.

atleast being a ORM doesn't necessarily hurt you

152/3.4, African American from South Bend,IN, First Generation, Former NCAA Football Player for IU, Former Debate Team, Research Assistant, Vice President of Fraternity, Behavioral Health Tech for a Psychological Services Group Home.

Accepted:
Loyola LA
Miami
Hofstra
Phoenix School of Law
Loyola New Orleans

Waitlisted:
William and Mary
Rejected:
Arizona State
Brooklyn

Waiting on:
IU
University of Arizona

I'm a URM with good softs and LOR. I also wrote an addendum telling them I worked 2 jobs while full time undergrad with a 3.6 GPA.

I applied last cycle but deferred to this cycle to Arizona State U so this is last year's data:

Accepted
U of Maine
Hamline (w/$$$$)
Syracuse
ASU (w/$)
U of Vermont

Declined
Berkeley (I was hoping to be the lotto URM)
Harvard (I was hoping to be the token/lotto URM)

Waitlisted
Cornell
U of Minnesota
U of Wisconsin
Columbia

I reapplied to Cornell and Columbia. I got re-waitlisted to Cornell and I haven't heard back from Columbia though I'm not necessarily holding my breath. I'm ASU bound

JonSanchez2009 wrote:I'm a URM with good softs and LOR. I also wrote an addendum telling them I worked 2 jobs while full time undergrad with a 3.6 GPA.

I applied last cycle but deferred to this cycle to Arizona State U so this is last year's data:

Accepted
U of Maine
Hamline (w/$$$$)
Syracuse
ASU (w/$)
U of Vermont

Declined
Berkeley (I was hoping to be the lotto URM)
Harvard (I was hoping to be the token/lotto URM)

Waitlisted
Cornell
U of Minnesota
U of Wisconsin
Columbia

I reapplied to Cornell and Columbia. I got re-waitlisted to Cornell and I haven't heard back from Columbia though I'm not necessarily holding my breath. I'm ASU bound

What was your LSAT score? Hard to believe anyone URM or not with a 153 or less was WL at Columbia. But hey what do I know about adcomms, seeing how UT WL'ed me with less than 153.

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non-urm, 153/3.2

accepted:
south texas
texas tech
texas southern
suffolk

waitlisted
penn state
chicago loyola
northeastern
rutgers-camden
seattle
u of maryland

rejected
ut
santa clara
depaul
seton


good luck!

mizzjasmine07 wrote:I'm an African American and 21 years old. Just received a 4.0 GPA from old dominion university with a BS in Criminal justice, minor sociology. i got a 146 on my lsat..yet submitted an addendum showing how i have a history of doing bad on standazerid tests from highschool(like on the sat & act). got in at wake with money, & florida coastal with money. been waitlisted at: UVA, William and mary, univ of georgia, and univ of maryland. still waiting to hear back from univ of florida & tulane. as of now im at wake

I hate to tell you the tired TLS response, but you should definitely retake. Being an AA with a 4.0, if you can break the 160's, you are golden. Shoot, even if you score in the high 150's, you will at least be looking at a lot more money at your current options. If you spend the next few months studying for the LSAT, that would probably be the best investment you can make in your lifetime.

136/3.65. URM. Unique softs. Paralegal exp. Strong EC/resume/LORs.

Applied LEOP at Hastings, and been in review since 3/2. Most people respond attacking my score, suggesting my app is in a rejection pile. But I'm not confrontational about it; I have to retake the test (10/1/11), and I just gave it a shot this cycle to see if the rest of my app can win me a spot.

GL with the LEOP program, i was rejected but my GPA was terrible, u probably will get in

red_alertz wrote:GL with the LEOP program, i was rejected but my GPA was terrible, u probably will get in

Sorry to hear that you got dinged I don't know what to expect, hey, anything is possible. Btw, thanks for sticking up for me in that other thread. I know I have a bunk LSAT, but let's not get demonstrative over it.

ProfitsProphets wrote:

red_alertz wrote:GL with the LEOP program, i was rejected but my GPA was terrible, u probably will get in

Sorry to hear that you got dinged I don't know what to expect, hey, anything is possible. Btw, thanks for sticking up for me in that other thread. I know I have a bunk LSAT, but let's not get demonstrative over it.

Some people who say retake are just being mean. They are possible insecure in their own lives, really who knows. Good luck with everything.

But seriously with that said-- retake. Also if you can't raise your score do not go to law school even if you do get in somewhere. You will not do well enough at any top 150 law school for it to be anything other than a huge waste of money. If you do manage to find a some for profit only law school where you can compete, unless you are very wealthy already, don't go because essentially no one from those schools makes it in today's legal market.

You could take this two ways. First, you could do what you probably will anyway and use this to fuel you so you can try to "do better and prove them wrong." Or, you could do the smart and mature thing and align your career goals with your skill set.

Sorry, I read a bit in the other thread and thought they were a bit harsh on you. I wanted to try a different approach. I know you are probably thinking, "but wait, this guy thinks the LSAT is more important than it really is." That could be true. Maybe law schools and everyone on this site including myself overvalue the LSAT. Or, maybe you did poorly on the LSAT and are now justifying your decision to attend law school in light of the new set of circumstances you find yourself in. I'm sure you will decide for yourself which is more likely.

Good luck, I mean it.

153/3.7 (T1 undergrad) in at Hastings, LEOP. Not URM. Weak/decent softs.

rebelx13 wrote:153/3.7 (T1 undergrad) in at Hastings, LEOP. Not URM. Weak/decent softs.

man that's so good, i should've worked on my LEOP harder than i did instead of sending in a rough draft shit

mrwarre85 wrote:

ProfitsProphets wrote:

red_alertz wrote:GL with the LEOP program, i was rejected but my GPA was terrible, u probably will get in

Sorry to hear that you got dinged I don't know what to expect, hey, anything is possible. Btw, thanks for sticking up for me in that other thread. I know I have a bunk LSAT, but let's not get demonstrative over it.

Some people who say retake are just being mean. They are possible insecure in their own lives, really who knows. Good luck with everything.

But seriously with that said-- retake. Also if you can't raise your score do not go to law school even if you do get in somewhere. You will not do well enough at any top 150 law school for it to be anything other than a huge waste of money. If you do manage to find a some for profit only law school where you can compete, unless you are very wealthy already, don't go because essentially no one from those schools makes it in today's legal market.

You could take this two ways. First, you could do what you probably will anyway and use this to fuel you so you can try to "do better and prove them wrong." Or, you could do the smart and mature thing and align your career goals with your skill set.

Sorry, I read a bit in the other thread and thought they were a bit harsh on you. I wanted to try a different approach. I know you are probably thinking, "but wait, this guy thinks the LSAT is more important than it really is." That could be true. Maybe law schools and everyone on this site including myself overvalue the LSAT. Or, maybe you did poorly on the LSAT and are now justifying your decision to attend law school in light of the new set of circumstances you find yourself in. I'm sure you will decide for yourself which is more likely.

Good luck, I mean it.

Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. I'm definitely going to retake the test if I don't get in this year. I came to that conclusion long ago. I'm studying and doing much better, now. Originally, I didn't understand the LSAT, felt overwhelmed, and felt like I panicked and guessed most, if not all of the test; hence, my score.

My motivation to become an attorney came before the LSAT. The test is just part of the process. So I'm not justifying my decision based on my poor performance on said test. I agree law schools place a great deal of emphases on the LSAT, which is why it's turning into a drawn out process. Thankfully LEOP exist, otherwise it will take too long to score in a more desirable percentile, and taking the test more than twice just seems too much for me.

ProfitsProphets wrote:

mrwarre85 wrote:

ProfitsProphets wrote:

red_alertz wrote:GL with the LEOP program, i was rejected but my GPA was terrible, u probably will get in

Sorry to hear that you got dinged I don't know what to expect, hey, anything is possible. Btw, thanks for sticking up for me in that other thread. I know I have a bunk LSAT, but let's not get demonstrative over it.

Some people who say retake are just being mean. They are possible insecure in their own lives, really who knows. Good luck with everything.

But seriously with that said-- retake. Also if you can't raise your score do not go to law school even if you do get in somewhere. You will not do well enough at any top 150 law school for it to be anything other than a huge waste of money. If you do manage to find a some for profit only law school where you can compete, unless you are very wealthy already, don't go because essentially no one from those schools makes it in today's legal market.

You could take this two ways. First, you could do what you probably will anyway and use this to fuel you so you can try to "do better and prove them wrong." Or, you could do the smart and mature thing and align your career goals with your skill set.

Sorry, I read a bit in the other thread and thought they were a bit harsh on you. I wanted to try a different approach. I know you are probably thinking, "but wait, this guy thinks the LSAT is more important than it really is." That could be true. Maybe law schools and everyone on this site including myself overvalue the LSAT. Or, maybe you did poorly on the LSAT and are now justifying your decision to attend law school in light of the new set of circumstances you find yourself in. I'm sure you will decide for yourself which is more likely.

Good luck, I mean it.

Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. I'm definitely going to retake the test if I don't get in this year. I came to that conclusion long ago. I'm studying and doing much better, now. Originally, I didn't understand the LSAT, felt overwhelmed, and felt like I panicked and guessed most, if not all of the test; hence, my score.

My motivation to become an attorney came before the LSAT. The test is just part of the process. So I'm not justifying my decision based on my poor performance on said test. I agree law schools place a great deal of emphases on the LSAT, which is why it's turning into a drawn out process. Thankfully LEOP exist, otherwise it will take too long to score in a more desirable percentile, and taking the test more than twice just seems too much for me.

There is just a huge difference between a 147 and a 160. The kids the have a shot at competing at the schools you want to go to are getting 160's. I hope "doing better" is mid 150's and not 147.

You come across as a very sincere and thoughtful person and if I had a 136 I would hope we could be friends at whatever law school would accept us regardless of whether or not we would both be condemned to living in section 8 housing the rest of our lives.