UT $93000 vs. Michigan

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UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby SirWilliam1022 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:22 pm

Assuming Michigan is sticker... sorry to ask a similar question so soon. Thanks!!!

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby SirWilliam1022 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:23 pm

scholarship being $93000 not expense

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:25 pm

Where do you want to work when you graduate? (I mean both geography and general field/area)

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby Fresh » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:25 pm

Where do you want to live?
What type of law do you want to do?
In state/Out of state?
Ties to either area?
Climatic preferences?
Favorite colors?

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby SirWilliam1022 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:27 pm

Have some ties to Texas... prefer the East Coast (but fixated on that)... but honestly, not too particular. Not interested in environmental law or tax law, but otherwise a bit of an open book. I more was hoping for a comparison of offers on their own merits. What is the better offer in and of itself. Sorry no better details.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby SirWilliam1022 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:27 pm

I mean not fixated on that

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby Stringer Bell » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:29 pm

Texas w/o a second thought.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby The Real Jack McCoy » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:31 pm

I'd take UT without thinking about it. This is especially true if you want to, or are willing to, settle in Texas. UT is a regional powerhouse with excellent faculty (certainly better faculty than many of the lower t14). The small difference in placement is not worth the six-figure debt (once you factor in interest), IMO.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby dabbadon8 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:32 pm

What are your numbers? Mich offers formulaic aid. Check LSN to see what you'd be likely to get.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby SirWilliam1022 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:34 pm

Numbers are 3.65 (not highly touted undergrad by any means... two years comm college, two years weak in-state... worked three jobs to help family out and was homeless during comm college so that killed the numbers there... 3.83 at the university) and 174 LSAT (on a retake... 163 first go around). So, good numbers, but the retake steals a bit of the fire out of the 174.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby SirWilliam1022 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:36 pm

I also don't qualify for much in need based aid as my family received some back pay from the VA for my father's service related injury, but they will not be contributing anything because they are a bit nutty. Honestly. That may not be much use, but I figured I would throw that in there.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby dabbadon8 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:36 pm

SirWilliam1022 wrote:Numbers are 3.65 (not highly touted undergrad by any means... two years comm college, two years weak in-state... worked three jobs to help family out and was homeless during comm college so that killed the numbers there... 3.83 at the university) and 174 LSAT (on a retake... 163 first go around). So, good numbers, but the retake steals a bit of the fire out of the 174.


You will get either 67.5k or 54k from michigan. I got 54k with a 3.49/173

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby SirWilliam1022 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:37 pm

Beautiful... given that amount, would you suggest Michigan? I would naturally be leaning towards Michigan with that offer on the table, but am open to insights.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby Miracle » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:39 pm

dabbadon8 wrote:What are your numbers? Mich offers formulaic aid. Check LSN to see what you'd be likely to get.


How can we find out through LSN?

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby dakatz » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:40 pm

Texas. No question

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby romothesavior » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:43 pm

If Michigan is at sticker, then I vote Texas. But it sounds like you'll get a good scholly to Michigan, and if that is the case, I vote Michigan.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby SirWilliam1022 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:45 pm

Thanks!!!! :D

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby dabbadon8 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:48 pm

SirWilliam1022 wrote:Beautiful... given that amount, would you suggest Michigan? I would naturally be leaning towards Michigan with that offer on the table, but am open to insights.


Depends what you want. Michigan may give you more flexibility location wise. If you are 100% sure you'd be happy living in texas I would go there. If not I would go to michigan. That is assuming you get the money that you most likely will. Also you have to like the school so visit and see where you fit best. If you just got into umich which I assume you did recently you should have your offer within the next couple weeks.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby dabbadon8 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:50 pm

Miracle wrote:
dabbadon8 wrote:What are your numbers? Mich offers formulaic aid. Check LSN to see what you'd be likely to get.


How can we find out through LSN?


Look at others with similar numbers. Michigan give out aid in a very formulaic way. (meaning they probably literally have a formula). I did so before I applied and got the same amount I predicted.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby bergg007 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:52 pm

Texas. even if they give you tons of cash at Mich. I personally don't like TX but It is the king of it's market. Houston and Dallas are owned by UT and those two markets are almost as big as NY when combined but there is no where near the competition. UT basically guarantees you a legal job and Mich doesn't. Where are you going to work in MI, detroit, lansing? other than that you'll be competing with the entire t14 and though Mich is a great school, it's no HYS and Even CCN are thought of more highly.

If you want a job, go to texas.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby Miracle » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:53 pm

dabbadon8 wrote:
Miracle wrote:
dabbadon8 wrote:What are your numbers? Mich offers formulaic aid. Check LSN to see what you'd be likely to get.


How can we find out through LSN?


Look at others with similar numbers. Michigan give out aid in a very formulaic way. (meaning they probably literally have a formula). I did so before I applied and got the same amount I predicted.


How can I find info on their need based aid?

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby dabbadon8 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:55 pm

Miracle wrote:
dabbadon8 wrote:
Miracle wrote:
dabbadon8 wrote:What are your numbers? Mich offers formulaic aid. Check LSN to see what you'd be likely to get.


How can we find out through LSN?


Look at others with similar numbers. Michigan give out aid in a very formulaic way. (meaning they probably literally have a formula). I did so before I applied and got the same amount I predicted.


How can I find info on their need based aid?


nah merit based. Mich schollys have a stipulation that you are no longer eligible for need aid once you get a merit offer.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby firemed » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:57 pm

Look into Michigan scholly. I would go Michigan if you got 50K or more a year with similar GPA requirements.

If we are talking sticker though, I would totally go UT.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby dresden doll » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:02 pm

dabbadon8 wrote:What are your numbers? Mich offers formulaic aid. Check LSN to see what you'd be likely to get.


THIS.

Numbers hovering around medians (i.e. Michigan-mediocre stats) will typically yield 10k per year. Michigan solid numbers (think 169/170 +3.7 GPA) tend to bring in 15k per year offers. Numbers at/around 75th percentile will result in 22.5k per year (basically a half tuition scholarship).

I forget if there's a 18k per year range. I think there likely is.

They really are quite formulaic with their aid.

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Re: UT $93000 vs. Michigan

Postby paulinaporizkova » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:10 pm

didn't you just post that you haven't even gotten an acceptance at michigan yet? if so, i'm confused and this thread is pointless for the time being




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