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Emma1
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Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby Emma1 » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:51 pm

Does anyone know if applications are up again this year? Hoping they are down somewhat based on reports that the number of people taking the October LSAT was down. Any word from any of the schools yet? It may still be too early to determine but am curious.

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glitched
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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby glitched » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:58 pm

I saw some chart where it actually showed that the number of LSAT takers actually dropped for both June and October. It wasn't a significant amount and it might not be a good indicator, but it is what it is. You can interpret it yourself.

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby Emma1 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:13 am

I just googled that and it showed that the number of June 2010 test takers were up but the October 2010 group was down by around 10% (although it still is the second highest number of test takers ever) Oh well!

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby ajw431 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:58 am

FWIW, at an open house that I went to a few weeks back, the Dean of Admissions was saying that the number of test takers of the June and October test were both down this year.

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby Spack » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:42 pm

LSAT takers aside, I have gotten emails from several schools I applied to citing the expectation of an increase of applications in the thousands. Not sure what their reasoning is, but it certainly has been making a different as far as who gets admitted right away versus waitlisted/deferred.

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby deliriousxix » Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:14 pm

I read somewhere that applicants are applying to more schools than before. Maybe that could be a reason for the discrepancy..?

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby TommyK » Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:19 pm

Spack wrote:LSAT takers aside, I have gotten emails from several schools I applied to citing the expectation of an increase of applications in the thousands. Not sure what their reasoning is, but it certainly has been making a different as far as who gets admitted right away versus waitlisted/deferred.


Could also be the law school saying this to get candidates to apply sooner, rather than later. Kind of like QVC saying that the item they're selling is going fast so order now!

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby HeavenWood » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:55 pm

TommyK wrote:
Spack wrote:LSAT takers aside, I have gotten emails from several schools I applied to citing the expectation of an increase of applications in the thousands. Not sure what their reasoning is, but it certainly has been making a different as far as who gets admitted right away versus waitlisted/deferred.


Could also be the law school saying this to get candidates to apply sooner, rather than later. Kind of like QVC saying that the item they're selling is going fast so order now!


I would totally watch QVC if they sold law school acceptances.
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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby northwood » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:21 pm

i would watch only if they had a contest to see who could be a better pitchperson. Make it tournament style. Top seeds get top schools. Tier 1 would be the first rounds. ( they are easier to pitch) . Championship round would be televised on the ocho, and would be another seeding. Top seeds get first pick of TTTT schools to pitch. Winner determined by number of callers asking to apply ( for each round)

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby whymeohgodno » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:28 pm

LSAT medians will rise everywhere again :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby HeavenWood » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:29 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:LSAT medians will rise everywhere again :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


Oh well, on the off off off chance I'm screwed out of everywhere else besides W&M, I could get used to the idea of colonial Williamsburg. I wonder what my three-corner hat size is?

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby Snape » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:13 pm

More people applying to more schools but less total applicants has no correspondence to higher lsat scores

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby BrownBears09 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:18 pm

Snape wrote:More people applying to more schools but less total applicants has no correspondence to higher lsat scores


Shhh... don't ruin their fun.

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby Arbiter213 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:18 pm

I mean, I can see why it might make admissions committees depressed, since it would mean more work to have more applicants, but I'm not sure something intangible like "admission" can be said to be affected- does it really have emotions at all?

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby AreJay711 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:25 pm

Snape wrote:More people applying to more schools but less total applicants has no correspondence to higher lsat scores


Schools can get strategic and probably raise their medians even without an increase in the # of applicants. Like Michigan with a median of 169 but a 25th of 168 - it is hard to imagine they can't game their LSAT up to 170 if they wanted to.

Edit: Or an LSAT drain of sorts on non-t14 students that would have been above the 75% at other schools but select the t14 because of improved career prospects.

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby stlisforlovers » Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:17 am

HeavenWood wrote:
whymeohgodno wrote:LSAT medians will rise everywhere again :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


Oh well, on the off off off chance I'm screwed out of everywhere else besides W&M, I could get used to the idea of colonial Williamsburg. I wonder what my three-corner hat size is?

+1

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby Snape » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:02 pm

AreJay711 wrote:
Snape wrote:More people applying to more schools but less total applicants has no correspondence to higher lsat scores


Schools can get strategic and probably raise their medians even without an increase in the # of applicants. Like Michigan with a median of 169 but a 25th of 168 - it is hard to imagine they can't game their LSAT up to 170 if they wanted to.

Edit: Or an LSAT drain of sorts on non-t14 students that would have been above the 75% at other schools but select the t14 because of improved career prospects.


Not if they cant get enough people to attend with a 170--its simple math--if there are less applicants (and presumably less applicants for each score) but more applying to more schools and there are only so many 170s but more people with the same 170 applying to 10-15-20 schools then that one 170 can only attend 1 school--people applying to more schools but less total applicants will actually most likely lead to a decrease in medians and scores and most likley an increase in schools using the waitlist---if schools are all accepting the same folks at the top they will have to make room once those people choose their schools---And for a School like Michigan--with a rather large class and more people needed in the median---its unlikely they would raise their median this year without doing something drastic with scholly money to 170+ or lowering their other standards and admitting more people with 2.8 and 170 or basically accepting more "weak" 170 applicants

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby thelaststraw05 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:11 pm

I just read this in the UVa. thread and thought it might be interesting to you. From a ding e-mail:

"We expect to receive over 7,500 nonresident applications and 650 resident applications for the 350 seats in the entering class. This is likely to be the most difficult year on record in which to gain admission to Virginia Law. This is especially true for nonresidents."

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby glitter178 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:16 pm

thelaststraw05 wrote:I just read this in the UVa. thread and thought it might be interesting to you. From a ding e-mail:

"We expect to receive over 7,500 nonresident applications and 650 resident applications for the 350 seats in the entering class. This is likely to be the most difficult year on record in which to gain admission to Virginia Law. This is especially true for nonresidents."


hmm. that's terrifying but is it just fluff? do they say that every year or is that something brand new?

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Re: Number of applicants affecting admission

Postby Snape » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:20 pm

Every school says every year to the rejections it was the most difficult year in history---and often it is--but competitive and drastic rises in medians arent the same thing--also--UVA is free to almost anybody so why not give it a shot




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