Hey all, I’ve been browsing the thread for a while, and am just now jumping in as I narrow my choices.
Also, I am a Colorado native who currently lives/works in Denver, and figured I could be a little useful. I have a different perspective on a few things previously discussed, so I thought I would offer that up, too.
Nancy_Botwin wrote:Hey, all
Just want to share some advice and insight about Denver and DU Law. I went to DU as an undergrad (and considered law school there, too) and while tuition costs are on par with most private universities, the cost of living in Denver is pretty insane and the nightlife is severely lacking. I lived in a small apartment within walking distance to campus and paid $900+utilities, etc. And the sororities and frat houses are scattered throughout the area so you have that slice of fun to deal with September-June. $800-900 is pretty much the going rate for the 1-mile radius around campus. Downtown is a whole other story. Put a 1 in front of that $900.
Aaaaaaand the nightlife. We all have heard that in law school you spend all of your days in the library, but going out in Denver is a bit of a letdown. Lodo is fun and exciting the first few times you visit but the shinyness wears off fast and you see that you're crammed into some chain bar with trashy people you thought only existed on thedirty.com (don't get me started on Cherry Creek North. There are more empty storefronts than stores/restaurants).
Public transportation sucks (light rail is expanding but won't be completely up and running for 10+ years). Basically, there's a stop at the far end of the campus that takes you downtown and to the suburbs. It's a bit of a running joke in Denver.
Also, Denver has the most lawyers per capita behind Washington DC so competition for jobs after graduation are nearly impossible to come by. And for the bar passage rate and cost, you would be better off at CU Boulder.
I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but if I wasn't sure about DU Law, I would withdrawal and give someone else a shot at your spot. Denver is a nice place to visit, but at two hours from ANY skiing and a ridiculous cost of living, I would concentrate my efforts (and money) somewhere else.
That's just my two cents. I don't mean to offend anyone but this is just how I feel about Denver and DU. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!
1) COL is on the higher end, but it is definitely possible to find housing at a wide variety of price points, depending on how close you wish to be to campus. Also, COL is higher in Boulder. My friends who currently live in Boulder pay far more each month for nearly equivalent accommodations. As someone who loves Boulder, too, I realize this is one of the trade-offs for attending CU.
2) Nightlife in Denver: while I agree that most people aren't prioritizing nightlife when making their final decision for enrollment, I'll admit that a decent bar scene is not entirely off my radar. If you are tired of the bars that Denver has to offer, my guess is that you are consistently drinking at the same places. Unless we are comparing Denver’s nightlife to that of, say, NYC, then I personally don’t understand the basis of your opinion. Denver has a variety of options, and while most lean toward the casual side, there is definitely a more “clubby” scene, too. As for the bars immediately surrounding DU's campus, I would have to agree that they trend toward frat-tastic, though I don’t know firsthand. But I hope (and expect) that there are exceptions.
3) Public transportation: again, cannot be compared to NYC (or probably a handful of other cities), but in Denver you won’t need it to be. Lightrail will take you from campus to LoDo, and then back again. I took advantage of this after one marathon of a St. Patty’s day celebration this past Saturday. Definitely beats driving. I can only imagine that lightrail will also come in handy if we have externships downtown. So far, my uses for it have been limited to social and sporting events. Always smart to have a designated driver, right?
4) The number of lawyers per capita: (if true) may be due, in part, to the high number of courts in a relatively “medium-sized” city. Denver is also near the top of the list for per capita federal employees. The fact that there are a lot of lawyers here does not necessarily mean that the market is forever saturated, but it does mean that many lawyers have had success finding jobs in Denver. When considering the ramifications on our own careers, it seems possible to interpret the stat through both an optimistic or pessimistic lens.
5) Nancy, I love your show.
Alright, those are my thoughts for now, feel free to take them or leave them.