tkgrrett wrote:oxford_don wrote:The Real Jack McCoy wrote:I hate to be that guy, but has anyone read the Harvard 2010 EIP thread. A little discouraging, to be honest. Just seemed like a lot more people being unable to secure offers than I had expected, and the complaints about the grading scheme are a little troubling. Any thoughts? Any Harvard students want to shed some light on how things are looking?
[Still very excited about the acceptance, don't get me wrong]
+1. I'd be curious to hear what the employment landscape looks like for Harvard grads as someone who is still sitting on the fence about going $200k in debt when there are cheaper options.
The OCI threads on TLS should not be a big consideration. They are always ridiculous. People start freaking out and declaring they are getting no callbacks wayyy too early then this spirals into more ppl freaking out. Next come the flames, people coming saying stuff like "No callbacks with 8 Hs", "One callback with 7 H and 2 DS" despite the fact that most of them dont even attend the school. Plus, its hard to figure out how many unique posters there are due to the anonymous feature. At the end of the day, those threads tell you almost nothing. Even ITE, no one doubts that at least 70-80%+ of Harvard's entire class is getting SA offers as compared to 60-70% at CCN. Idk how that translates to total OCI participants though but if ~8-10% dont participate its not out of the question to think that 85%+ of participants get SAs via OCI. I just dont know much of anything in this world that gets more secure than that.
In regards to LP, the mandatory LP requirement was removed so right now no one really knows whats going to happen with that.
As I understand it, the Dean's Scholar Prizes are what is no longer dictated. Previously it was no more than 2 students (I think?) per class, whereas now it is entirely discretionary. This might have a huge impact down the road, because DS Prizes count as 5.0 in GPA calculations.
The rest of the grades haven't changed, except in one regard: the curve that they published a little while back (the one with 8% LP's) is no longer published. The curve was never strictly mandatory, only highly suggested--in other words, profs had to justify sharp departures from it to the registrar. There's still an internally circulated curve among the professors. There's no reason to believe that the unpublished curve of today is any different from the published curve of last year. Certainly, they still give out LP's.
Also, I think you're right about the EIP thread. It seems highly unreliable. I just wish we had *some* reliable source.
Edit: Oh, and I remembered that I saw this on the website the other day, under the LRW program course description: "All Legal Research and Writing sections comply with the recommended HLS grade distribution: 37 percent Honors; 55 percent Pass; and 8 percent Low Pass/Fail." It might just be that they haven't updated this portion of the website; on the other hand, it could be a sign that the LP is here to stay.