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Mike088
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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby Mike088 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:42 pm

mrwarre85 wrote:Sorry to be a debbie downer but I was seriously considering Santa Clara because of how beautiful the campus was and how great a location that had near San Fran until I did my homework on their job placement, and now I feel obligated to share my findings with all of you--especially because employment has been talked about so much on this thread.

According to the info Santa Clara sent to USNEWS, only 60 graduates were working as full time attorneys nine months out. 60 TOTAL GRADUATES. That is only 23% of the class!!!!! Therefor, 77% of the people who went to Santa Clara law and paid all that money didn't even end up working as an attorney. No, I don't just mean not working in a private firm, I mean all law jobs, only 60 grads. I think you will agree with me that this is shocking.

Self selection can only make up for a tiny bit of this-- lets face it, the majority of people who go to law school do want to be lawyers.

To add insult to injury, only a very low 36% of those 60 grads reported a private sector salary.

Santa Clara reports a median private sector salary of 160k. I did the math and that is only 10 STUDENTS! Of all the numbers I've crunched with all the different top 100 schools, Santa Clara is by far the most misleading of all them all.

I'm also considering DU and UTK. Along with SCU, these schools are T2 but they do not offer "roughly similar" job placement. DU sports an atrocious, although way better than SCU, 52% of graduates working full time as attorneys nine months out, while UTK sends a very respectable 86% of its graduates into full time employment as attorneys. I share this so you won't think-- yeah the job market sucks everywhere for kids outside T-14. No, it is virtually non existent in Cali and it sucks everywhere else.

I have a full scholarship to DU so I'm still thinking about it, which is really insane of my part because I have a coin flip chance to even be an attorney with a DU degree. Even though I haven't heard back from SCU I am going to withdraw today. My bet is that a giant junk of those 23% at SCU are going into IP, a field I (and most on this board I would guess) will not be going into. Again, sorry to be a debbie downer, but after reading all the posts earlier on this thread I felt I had to say something.

Feel free to PM me or re-post if you would like me to share the USNEWS full report (if you haven't paid the ten bucks for premium service) or walk you through the simple math I did to come up with these figures.



Wow... that is utterly depressing. I'm currently deciding between SCU and USD since it looks like UCD and UCH are not going to come through.

If i go to SCU i get to save a little money by living at home, but they've only offered me 4,500..

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby florentine » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:21 pm

MrMisiu wrote:When you guys requested more scholly money, did they send you some form to fill out, a scholarship reconsideration form or some name like that?


Yep thats the one!

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby swilson215 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:31 pm

MrMisiu wrote:When you guys requested more scholly money, did they send you some form to fill out, a scholarship reconsideration form or some name like that?


Yeah, I actually had to ask for the form, they didn't just give it to me. it's like pulling teeth with them!!

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby swilson215 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:33 pm

SFnative wrote:Just called and spoke with a very mean lady, conversation wen t like this:

Me: "Hello, I was calling in regards to an application and "
Her: " Im sorry Im cutting you off, but if you are calling to know when your decision is going to be made, I dont know nor can I find out"

Me: "Oh okay, have a nice day and remember to smile"


Glad to see it's not just me that's had a bad experience with someone there. Although I got a very nice call today from a current 2L that wanted to chit-chat and see if I had any questions. I didn't have time to talk (I'm still at work), but it was a nice gesture.

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby florentine » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:21 pm

swilson215 wrote:
SFnative wrote:Just called and spoke with a very mean lady, conversation wen t like this:

Me: "Hello, I was calling in regards to an application and "
Her: " Im sorry Im cutting you off, but if you are calling to know when your decision is going to be made, I dont know nor can I find out"

Me: "Oh okay, have a nice day and remember to smile"


Glad to see it's not just me that's had a bad experience with someone there. Although I got a very nice call today from a current 2L that wanted to chit-chat and see if I had any questions. I didn't have time to talk (I'm still at work), but it was a nice gesture.


You got a call? I didn't get any call... :cry:

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby crazyventures » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:08 pm

My IC date just changed from 1/26 to 3/23...hopefully this means that a decision is coming soon :|

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby jarofsoup » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:08 am

Mine changed from 1/31 wait it has been this way for months.

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby adonai » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:13 am

jarofsoup wrote:Mine changed from 1/31 wait it has been this way for months.

+1 and I think you and I are the only ones left from the EA deferral in this thread.

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby florentine » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:50 am

adonai wrote:
jarofsoup wrote:Mine changed from 1/31 wait it has been this way for months.

+1 and I think you and I are the only ones left from the EA deferral in this thread.


Like they say, save the best for last right??

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby jarofsoup » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:04 am

I think we are a ding or wait list. I do not know.

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby lsatextreme » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:05 am

ditto on the 1/31 complete...

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby fragged » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:17 am

MrMisiu wrote:When you guys requested more scholly money, did they send you some form to fill out, a scholarship reconsideration form or some name like that?


It was an appeal form. And they said they will consider appeals "if" any more funds become available. So just because you appeal doesn't mean there's any guarantee it will even be considered.

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby jarofsoup » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:35 am

When is the initial cycle done with?

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby adonai » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:44 am

jarofsoup wrote:I think we are a ding or wait list. I do not know.

Probably waitlist. If past LSN cycles are any sign, it seems most of the EA deferrals went to the waitlist around April-May. When is SCU's first deposit deadline?

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby MrMisiu » Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:23 am

fragged wrote:It was an appeal form. And they said they will consider appeals "if" any more funds become available. So just because you appeal doesn't mean there's any guarantee it will even be considered.


Has 'if' ever been part of a good/supportive sentence? I know it doesn't guarantee money, if anything I'm positive they won't release any money when it comes through. I was just curious if everyone got the form or if the heart emoticons I put in my email to them gave me an extra edge :D

adonai wrote: When is SCU's first deposit deadline?

First deposit deadline is the 1st of April.

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby jarofsoup » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:42 am

adonai wrote: When is SCU's first deposit deadline?

First deposit deadline is the 1st of April.[/quote]


With this in mind the should be making up their bloody minds this week and the beginning of next?

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby zla2014 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:55 am

jarofsoup wrote:
adonai wrote: When is SCU's first deposit deadline?

First deposit deadline is the 1st of April.



With this in mind the should be making up their bloody minds this week and the beginning of next?[/quote]


I shot them an e-mail a couple of days ago because I don't want to have to put a seat deposit down at another school and they told me they were going to try to get the "majority" of decisions sent out by early April. So I'm not holding my breath. Been IC Since 2/1.

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby rs2004 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:03 pm

withdrew via email. good luck to those who are still waiting!

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby sUkNoIrzTforEall » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:17 pm

was accepted via status checker (I think) today. mayhaps i received your scholarship? ;)

it's showing my first deposit as due 4/23, second as 6/1, with amounts

BTW:
complete: 2/2
IC: 2/23, 3/17

Review Complete: 3/25

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby LilMan'sMom » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:34 pm

sUkNoIrzTforEall wrote:was accepted via status checker (I think) today...
it's showing my first deposit as due 4/23, second as 6/1, with amounts
Review Complete: 3/25


Hey, I was as well! I am excited.

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby sUkNoIrzTforEall » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:36 pm

Congrats! It does not say admitted anywhere, but the deposits being there is good news, right?

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby LilMan'sMom » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:52 pm

sUkNoIrzTforEall wrote:Congrats! It does not say admitted anywhere, but the deposits being there is good news, right?


Definitely because I do not think any reason would exist for them to be there if not. I can't wait for the acceptance package to arrive!

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby sUkNoIrzTforEall » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:55 pm

me too. I really want to stay in California, and only had one option in Ca. to date. So this is making me feel a lot more comfortable about withdrawing from good schools on the E. Coast.

very excited. hope it's true :::pinch::::
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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby theparkus » Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:54 pm

sUkNoIrzTforEall wrote:was accepted via status checker (I think) today. mayhaps i received your scholarship? ;)

it's showing my first deposit as due 4/23, second as 6/1, with amounts

BTW:
complete: 2/2
IC: 2/23, 3/17

Review Complete: 3/25


Hey, Congrats!
I got a letter today in the mail and my online status was Review Complete: 3/23
Though it doesn't say "You've been admitted", "Congratulations on your admission", or any variation of the sort, I'm going to say since we got some sort of notification that they are holding a spot for us with deposit dates, its safe to say what we've pretty much been accepted? I'm going to guess that they'll hold off sending an admissions packet until we make the initial deposit.

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Re: Santa Clara University 2014

Postby sUkNoIrzTforEall » Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:00 pm

what's the letter about? why would they not send an admit packet?

i decided to vote with the crowd that deposits with dates=acceptance.

open the letter!

p.s. congrats, and sorry if i came across as bossy what with this crazy username and che avatar : :wink:




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