Chapman 2011!

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lilcalisunshine
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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby lilcalisunshine » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:07 am

Adonai it's definitely better than nothing!! Every penny helps, right??

Texas, I'm sorry they wouldn't give you more, but at the same time we have to figure the money that isn't going to those of us has to be going to help someone else, yah?

I wonder how exactly applications work at this point....I'm excited for when all the rest of you hear back!!!

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby longhornlaw » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:51 am

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TXJD
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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby TXJD » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:28 am

longhornlaw wrote:In lieu of an hour long special on ESPN, this post will be about as good as it gets. I'm taking my talents to Chapman next year!


What no "DECISION" special? Classy...

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby sanjola » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:26 pm

longhornlaw wrote:In lieu of an hour long special on ESPN, this post will be about as good as it gets. I'm taking my talents to Chapman next year!



I'll see you there, longhorn. :)

I had such a fantastic time at ASD and am really excited to be part of the class of 2014!

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby conroyc » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:38 pm

longhornlaw wrote:In lieu of an hour long special on ESPN, this post will be about as good as it gets. I'm taking my talents to Chapman next year!


YAY! So excited for you! The class of 2014 is going to be amazingggggg :)

lilcalisunshine
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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby lilcalisunshine » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:30 pm

WHAT?! Texas made a decision?!

Dropping off my first seat deposit and meeting with Marissa to ask a few $$ questions tomorrow. I'm excited!!

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby adonai » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:33 pm

How was ASD btw? I wasn't able to make it but am curious as to how it went.

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby sanjola » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:24 am

adonai wrote:How was ASD btw? I wasn't able to make it but am curious as to how it went.



It was fantastic! There were several administrators, professors and students that showed up. Dean Campbell was also present and it was a pleasure speaking with him. He is a very smart and humble man. I really enjoyed my discussions with everyone and the campus is beautiful.

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby conroyc » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:01 pm

It's seat deposit day... Did anyone else decide on Chapman? :)

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby longhornlaw » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:07 pm

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TXJD
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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby TXJD » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:39 pm

conroyc wrote:It's seat deposit day... Did anyone else decide on Chapman? :)


How does the seat deposit day coming and going affect people who are still in review? Will ours be extended if we get in?

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby mediation_86 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:49 pm

TXJD wrote:
conroyc wrote:It's seat deposit day... Did anyone else decide on Chapman? :)


How does the seat deposit day coming and going affect people who are still in review? Will ours be extended if we get in?


I am sure they will give you a new deposit deadline

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby OldManHunger » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:14 pm

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby sanjola » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:43 am

OldManHunger wrote:Jesus. Have you people read the employment board? You know, where people from legitimate law schools can't get jobs?

Look. Reconsider some shit.

--LinkRemoved--

Given the numbers that the school has given out, only 40% of students' salaries can be computed. And of those REPORTED salaries, the median is $75k. Mix in another 60% of too-ashamed-to-report and you have a much truer number.

Too many numbers? It's the secret formula for "you're fucked if you go here."



Cool story, brah.

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby longhornlaw » Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:19 am

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oliverdarcy
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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby oliverdarcy » Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:47 am

And another week has gone by and my status is still "in review." Been stuck here since 2/14, after submitting my application in early January. Not sure what to think at this point.

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby thefifthspeed » Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:35 am

oliverdarcy wrote:And another week has gone by and my status is still "in review." Been stuck here since 2/14, after submitting my application in early January. Not sure what to think at this point.


Same boat - Submitted 12/10 and in review 1/8. I'm >Median GPA <LSAT so I figured they would string me along. I'm thinking they are waiting for 1st seat deposits to see where they are at and will send out accepts/rejects at the later part of April. I guess it makes more sense to have this approach as opposed to waitlisting a ton of people then having to re-evaluating the apps.
It does suck for those of us who want attend but are having to put down seat deposits at other schools and may very well lose them.

What kind of stats do you have? You can PM if you want.

TXJD
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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby TXJD » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:52 am

longhornlaw wrote:
OldManHunger wrote:Jesus. Have you people read the employment board? You know, where people from legitimate law schools can't get jobs?

Look. Reconsider some shit.

--LinkRemoved--

Given the numbers that the school has given out, only 40% of students' salaries can be computed. And of those REPORTED salaries, the median is $75k. Mix in another 60% of too-ashamed-to-report and you have a much truer number.

Too many numbers? It's the secret formula for "you're fucked if you go here."


You know, it's great that you're looking out for us. Employment statistics are something any prospective law student has to be wary of.

Here's some things you should consider.
    Not all of us are going to law school to make 100k when we graduated.
    Not all of us want to become lawyers.
    Not all of us give a shit about T14 schools, or whatever the LSAT's Chosen Ones have deemed T14 now.
    Those figures don't include people not in the legal field. So, say somebody gets a law degree then goes into an engineering job. Doesn't count.


So look, great for you if you're going to a HYSPennMichiganCooley. I'm going to Chapman because I've made a well-researched decision to go there. I've considered the employment figures. I understand that I won't be a bottles and models lawyer when I graduate. I don't see myself working in a 6 am to 10 pm biglaw job. And you know what, that's a-ok with me. If people had been raising the question about law employment, then hey, by all means come in and show us some fancy flow charts and pictures. But at least use a reference that has finished building their site out.


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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby OldManHunger » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:00 am

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TXJD
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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby TXJD » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:45 pm

OldManHunger wrote:
longhornlaw wrote:I'm going to Chapman because I've made a well-researched decision to go there. I've considered the employment figures. I understand that I won't be a bottles and models lawyer when I graduate. I don't see myself working in a 6 am to 10 pm biglaw job. And you know what, that's a-ok with me. If people had been raising the question about law employment, then hey, by all means come in and show us some fancy flow charts and pictures. But at least use a reference that has finished building their site out.


Good response. But you've got a contradiction. I would use a better reference than Law School Transparency (and troll these threads a lot more) if there WERE a better reference. There isn't. You cannot have made a well-researched decision because there is not enough information out there to research. There is no reference out there that would allow you to say, hey, Chapman is a sound financial decision. You're just rolling the dice.

LST is transparent about the information it doesn't have. You're right that it's not a good reference, but part of the point here is that there is no good reference. Not for me. Not for you.

Edit: Someone said this isn't the place for this discussion. But I think it is. The sad people in the employment forum can't change their minds. People here, can, and thinking about employment has as much to do with an acceptance as anything else.


This thread is about keeping up-to-date with the admissions process for Chapman. There are other threads available to discuss deciding on law schools. If you cannot find one that suits your own particular rants, I suggest you start one of your own.

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby conroyc » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:21 pm

Has anyone thought about living situations? Are you guys planning to find a roommate via the list they'll send out with interested first years?

lilcalisunshine
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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby lilcalisunshine » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:09 am

Ugh thank you Texas for dealing with that cause I'm really not in the mood.

But let me just say this...if we have happily decided on our school, then let us make that decision. If you think it's as bad decision fine think that. But you have no idea WHAT area of law any of us want to go into, or what our reasons were for choosing Chapman.

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby observationalist » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:18 am

We should have the 2009 data ready to go in LST's data clearinghouse soon. But in the meantime, I encourage you to look at the 2009 spreadsheet taken from U.S. News. Of note:

Out of 199 ABA approved law schools, just 16 reported more graduates in jobs that didn't require bar admission than Chapman. Only 53.7% of Chapman grads found FT work that required bar admissions in 2009. This was the best hiring year on record, prior to the bubble. In its best year, just half of Chapman grads found FT legal work. Without accurate data on 2010 grads (which requires you contacting the school and making a request), it's reasonable to assume things were about twice as poor. This means a 1 in 4 shot of finding FT legal work of any nature.

22.7% of the Class of 09 was represented in the salary information. Just 42% of private sector graduates reported salaries. That means that the reported 25th/median/75ths of $45K, $60K and $78K most likely reflect only the top fifth of the class. To state the same thing in another way: the top 10% of Chapman's '09 class turned out making $60K or more, while the top 20% landed you a legal job making somewhere around $45K, and nearly half the class could not find full-time legal work of any nature.

I encourage you to contact the school directly for Class of 2010 employment data, and to ask them very specific questions that can help you prepare financially. I would also ask them about any new programs the school has developed to prepare graduates for solo practice, since that is likely where a large chunk of the bar admission-required people are ending up these days. G'luck.

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby longhornlaw » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:25 am

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Re: Chapman 2011!

Postby ocplaytime » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:23 pm

Has anyone been in review for less than 8 weeks? I sat at complete for more than 2 months and finally went into review 4/4..whats taking them so long




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