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masterthearts
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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby masterthearts » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:16 pm

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

So, to make a long story short, I think Cornell places a lot of weight on a high GPA from tough school..sounds like they might be favoring reverse splitters this cycle (never did any research on previous cycles)

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby kk19131 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:17 pm

Yay for the Complete 11/15ers...

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby whymeohgodno » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:18 pm

I'm a non-mex hispanic and my app has been complete and ready for review (per the email since 11/17). I'm a reverse splitter at an ivy league with GPA over 3.8 and lsat 163.
I actually emailed Geiger about my low lsat score. He said a high GPA is a better indication of one's abilities than a score on a single day. So, I hope that bodes well for me.

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.


Keep deluding yourself.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby masterthearts » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:20 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:
I'm a non-mex hispanic and my app has been complete and ready for review (per the email since 11/17). I'm a reverse splitter at an ivy league with GPA over 3.8 and lsat 163.
I actually emailed Geiger about my low lsat score. He said a high GPA is a better indication of one's abilities than a score on a single day. So, I hope that bodes well for me.

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.


Keep deluding yourself.


Really, what are you talking about. If they just wanted to accept those with a 168+ and a 3.7+, they could use a computer to make the decisions and would need only ONE adcom to glance through the app to make sure there are no arrests, or other negative marks.
You are deluding yourself.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby mths » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:20 pm

masterthearts wrote:Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

So, to make a long story short, I think Cornell places a lot of weight on a high GPA from tough school..sounds like they might be favoring reverse splitters this cycle (never did any research on previous cycles)

Cornell is pretty splitter averse in general if I recall correctly

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby IsleMet » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:22 pm

Is grad school GPA ever taken into consideration? I hope so! I've done a lot better in grad school than I did in undergrad.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby mrmangs » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:23 pm

masterthearts wrote:
whymeohgodno wrote:
I'm a non-mex hispanic and my app has been complete and ready for review (per the email since 11/17). I'm a reverse splitter at an ivy league with GPA over 3.8 and lsat 163.
I actually emailed Geiger about my low lsat score. He said a high GPA is a better indication of one's abilities than a score on a single day. So, I hope that bodes well for me.

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.


Keep deluding yourself.


Really, what are you talking about. If they just wanted to accept those with a 168+ and a 3.7+, they could use a computer to make the decisions and would need only ONE adcom to glance through the app to make sure there are no arrests, or other negative marks.
You are deluding yourself.


Not that I necessarily disagree with you about your chances of getting in, but can't your point be made about any combination of LSAT/GPA (i.e., your metric for assessment is no more "special" than what you criticize)? And if you want to add in selectivity based on UG, they could toss in a list of schools into their computer program.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby whymeohgodno » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:24 pm

masterthearts wrote:
whymeohgodno wrote:
I'm a non-mex hispanic and my app has been complete and ready for review (per the email since 11/17). I'm a reverse splitter at an ivy league with GPA over 3.8 and lsat 163.
I actually emailed Geiger about my low lsat score. He said a high GPA is a better indication of one's abilities than a score on a single day. So, I hope that bodes well for me.

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.


Keep deluding yourself.


Really, what are you talking about. If they just wanted to accept those with a 168+ and a 3.7+, they could use a computer to make the decisions and would need only ONE adcom to glance through the app to make sure there are no arrests, or other negative marks.
You are deluding yourself.


I'm not saying that's the only criteria but GL thinking that your 3.8 GPA will outweigh a 163 LSAT.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby mths » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:34 pm

IsleMet wrote:Is grad school GPA ever taken into consideration? I hope so! I've done a lot better in grad school than I did in undergrad.

No.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby whymeohgodno » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:35 pm

IsleMet wrote:Is grad school GPA ever taken into consideration? I hope so! I've done a lot better in grad school than I did in undergrad.


It's just a soft.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby masterthearts » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:36 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:
masterthearts wrote:
whymeohgodno wrote:
I'm a non-mex hispanic and my app has been complete and ready for review (per the email since 11/17). I'm a reverse splitter at an ivy league with GPA over 3.8 and lsat 163.
I actually emailed Geiger about my low lsat score. He said a high GPA is a better indication of one's abilities than a score on a single day. So, I hope that bodes well for me.

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.


Keep deluding yourself.


Really, what are you talking about. If they just wanted to accept those with a 168+ and a 3.7+, they could use a computer to make the decisions and would need only ONE adcom to glance through the app to make sure there are no arrests, or other negative marks.
You are deluding yourself.


I'm not saying that's the only criteria but GL thinking that your 3.8 GPA will outweigh a 163 LSAT.


Well, soft factors are also considered, such as recs, resume, etc.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby T6Hopeful » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:38 pm

IsleMet wrote:Is grad school GPA ever taken into consideration? I hope so! I've done a lot better in grad school than I did in undergrad.


No, because if you don't have a high grad school GPA, you usually get kicked out of the program anyway. Getting a grad degree is a nice soft, but it basically implies that you did well in it anyway (grade-wise).

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby masterthearts » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:40 pm

From what I can see on LSN, the people who already received decisions are those who went complete on or before 11/1.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby Miracle » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:47 pm

mths wrote:
masterthearts wrote:Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

So, to make a long story short, I think Cornell places a lot of weight on a high GPA from tough school..sounds like they might be favoring reverse splitters this cycle (never did any research on previous cycles)

Cornell is pretty splitter averse in general if I recall correctly


since when?

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:47 pm

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:Still sitting in the 2nd phase of "under review" as of 11/29... why me, oh god no. :(


what do you mean by 2nd phase?
you've had two different dates that have said UR?

I'm at the first one for UR at 11/29

the last person to get accepted though went UR, then six days later was admitted.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby whymeohgodno » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:49 pm

Miracle wrote:
mths wrote:
masterthearts wrote:Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

So, to make a long story short, I think Cornell places a lot of weight on a high GPA from tough school..sounds like they might be favoring reverse splitters this cycle (never did any research on previous cycles)

Cornell is pretty splitter averse in general if I recall correctly


since when?


I've always thought this but it's just anecdotal evidence. I'm not sure on an aggregate level whether Cornell does dislike splitters.

They are definitely more splitter adverse than Georgetown though.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby Miracle » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:52 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:
Miracle wrote:
mths wrote:
masterthearts wrote:Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

So, to make a long story short, I think Cornell places a lot of weight on a high GPA from tough school..sounds like they might be favoring reverse splitters this cycle (never did any research on previous cycles)

Cornell is pretty splitter averse in general if I recall correctly


since when?


I've always thought this but it's just anecdotal evidence. I'm not sure on an aggregate level whether Cornell does dislike splitters.

They are definitely more splitter adverse than Georgetown though.




Interesting. They didn't sound that way when I spoke with them

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby whymeohgodno » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:54 pm

Interesting. They didn't sound that way when I spoke with them


What did they say?

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby Snape » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:55 pm

nevermind
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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby RTFM » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:55 pm

Compete since 11/11, updated 11/29. Still nothing.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby masterthearts » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:57 pm

Snape wrote:Cornell likes 168+ LSAT...they will settle for 167s with 3.85+....166 or lower is just a dream in the dark in need of other plans....163 is near dead....sorry


Well, we'll see about that. Does legacy count?

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby whymeohgodno » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:57 pm

Snape wrote:Cornell likes 168+ LSAT...they will settle for 167s with 3.85+....166 or lower is just a dream in the dark in need of other plans....163 is near dead....sorry


Someone in this thread just got rejected with a 168/3.88. He had multiple underage drinking violations though? I thought TLS wisdom though was that these don't really matter.

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:58 pm

RTFM wrote:Compete since 11/11, updated 11/29. Still nothing.


Complete or UR on either date?

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby amkid100 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:58 pm

masterthearts wrote:
Snape wrote:Cornell likes 168+ LSAT...they will settle for 167s with 3.85+....166 or lower is just a dream in the dark in need of other plans....163 is near dead....sorry


Well, we'll see about that. Does legacy count?


Here's to hoping!

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Re: Cornell 2011 applicants

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:58 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:
Snape wrote:Cornell likes 168+ LSAT...they will settle for 167s with 3.85+....166 or lower is just a dream in the dark in need of other plans....163 is near dead....sorry


Someone in this thread just got rejected with a 168/3.88. He had multiple underage drinking violations though? I thought TLS wisdom though was that these don't really matter.


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