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Re: Emory 2011

Postby SrLaw » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:38 pm

#30.

Emory, you might want to give me more $$$ now.

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby lastch2 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:09 pm

SrLaw wrote:#30.

Emory, you might want to give me more $$$ now.


hah! i bet they're kicking themselves just a little bit :lol:

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby PuckCU06 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:12 pm

#30??? Are there new rankings out?

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby SrLaw » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:13 pm

lastch2 wrote:
SrLaw wrote:#30.

Emory, you might want to give me more $$$ now.


hah! i bet they're kicking themselves just a little bit :lol:


They are giving out less $ this year than last year. Odds are they might move up a spot or 2 next year but I could see them going down to the mid 30's.

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby SrLaw » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:13 pm

PuckCU06 wrote:#30??? Are there new rankings out?



Yes, look at the main forum.

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby wesker » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:20 pm

66% employment at graduation....

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby SrLaw » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:22 pm

wesker wrote:66% employment at graduation....



I doubted I was going to go even with my 15K per year scholarship. I think this kind of sealed the deal. The school is just to expensive for the prospects it provides.

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby HeavenWood » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:23 pm

SrLaw wrote:#30.

Emory, you might want to give me more $$$ now.


EVERYBODY PANIC!1!11111!1!1!!!!!!!

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby wesker » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:25 pm

HeavenWood wrote:
SrLaw wrote:#30.

Emory, you might want to give me more $$$ now.


EVERYBODY PANIC!1!11111!1!1!!!!!!!


wesker wrote:66% employment at graduation....


yes, everybody panic

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby lastch2 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:27 pm

SrLaw wrote:
lastch2 wrote:
SrLaw wrote:#30.

Emory, you might want to give me more $$$ now.


hah! i bet they're kicking themselves just a little bit :lol:


They are giving out less $ this year than last year. Odds are they might move up a spot or 2 next year but I could see them going down to the mid 30's.


i would be astounded if they moved up next year. especially giving out less $

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby SrLaw » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:29 pm

lastch2 wrote:
SrLaw wrote:
lastch2 wrote:
SrLaw wrote:#30.

Emory, you might want to give me more $$$ now.


hah! i bet they're kicking themselves just a little bit :lol:


They are giving out less $ this year than last year. Odds are they might move up a spot or 2 next year but I could see them going down to the mid 30's.


i would be astounded if they moved up next year. especially giving out less $



Their whole admissions process this cycle had me scratching my head. However, I agree. Emory will not in the 20's again for at least a few years.

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby crit_racer » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:55 pm

movement in the rankings from year to year seems unimportant to me, but this big of a drop combined w/ Emory's dismal job prospects and seemingly inability to attract big# students due to weak scholly offers have scared me away from ELS...

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby EmoryAdmissionDean » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:04 am

Hi TLSers - this is Ethan Rosenzweig, the Dean of Admission and Financial Aid at Emory Law. I appreciate your indulging my posting from time-to-time. With the U.S. News & World Report graduate school rankings upon us, I thought it may be helpful to post here in addition to an email I am planning to send to many of our applicants tomorrow with more information.

Emory’s move in the rankings may be directly attributed to a change in the methodology U.S. News uses to calculate employment statistics. We are analyzing that now. What I can assure you is that we have made, and continue to make, improvements in our overall strategy for assisting our students and recent graduates in their individual job searches, regardless of their career interests. We remain committed to ensuring all our graduates successfully enter the practice of law prepared to make an immediate impact.

Most importantly, for those looking into joining our community, I encourage you to spend time visiting us and seeing our school in action. There is nothing more satisfying in the admission office than putting faces to the applications and answering your questions in person. We have scheduled extra tours in March to make it easy to visit (http://www.law.emory.edu/visit), and our annual visiting day on April 9th is going to be great.

I hope to see you soon as you determine which community can be most supportive in helping you pursue your goals. I also ask that you contact me directly at admission(a)law.emory.edu so that we can provide you the most accurate answers to your questions as you make such important life decisions.

See you soon, and my best for a successful admission process.

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:07 am

they're not giving out less money than last year.

Last year a 168/3.7 was good for 72k. This year inferior numbers are getting 75k like it's candy.

If a drop in the year to year rankings really scares you, well, you should probably start rethinking how you're really approaching your decision making. Nothing is different about Emory than it was a year ago, law schools change much more gradually than a news magazine that needs to keep a buzz alive would indicate.

Emory was ranked 32nd 5 years ago, and it's been fluctuating between ~20th and ~30th since the beginning of the rankings. The employment as of the updated NLJ numbers showed Emory was holding steady as of the beginning of ITE despite a 42% offer rate from Atlanta firms that killed Vandy and Duke.

Please kindly chillax, take a step back, and realize what's actually going on.


Edit: admissions dean beat me to it.

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby rman1201 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:14 am

65.5% Employed at Graduation :shock:

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby tttlllsss » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:15 am

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:they're not giving out less money than last year.

Last year a 168/3.7 was good for 72k. This year inferior numbers are getting 75k like it's candy.

If a drop in the year to year rankings really scares you, well, you should probably start rethinking how you're really approaching your decision making. Nothing is different about Emory than it was a year ago, law schools change much more gradually than a news magazine that needs to keep a buzz alive would indicate.

Emory was ranked 32nd 5 years ago, and it's been fluctuating between ~20th and ~30th since the beginning of the rankings. The employment as of the updated NLJ numbers showed Emory was holding steady as of the beginning of ITE despite a 42% offer rate from Atlanta firms that killed Vandy and Duke.

Please kindly chillax, take a step back, and realize what's actually going on.


Edit: admissions dean beat me to it.


You're being level-headed and fair, but the 8-spot drop and 65% employment are disconcerting nonetheless

Looking forward to Dean R's e-mail tomorrow

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:38 am

tttlllsss wrote:
Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:they're not giving out less money than last year.

Last year a 168/3.7 was good for 72k. This year inferior numbers are getting 75k like it's candy.

If a drop in the year to year rankings really scares you, well, you should probably start rethinking how you're really approaching your decision making. Nothing is different about Emory than it was a year ago, law schools change much more gradually than a news magazine that needs to keep a buzz alive would indicate.

Emory was ranked 32nd 5 years ago, and it's been fluctuating between ~20th and ~30th since the beginning of the rankings. The employment as of the updated NLJ numbers showed Emory was holding steady as of the beginning of ITE despite a 42% offer rate from Atlanta firms that killed Vandy and Duke.

Please kindly chillax, take a step back, and realize what's actually going on.


Edit: admissions dean beat me to it.


You're being level-headed and fair, but the 8-spot drop and 65% employment are disconcerting nonetheless

Looking forward to Dean R's e-mail tomorrow


This is class of 2008 data: see the actual website

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So please, don't feel presently disconcerted with what is now pretty much historical data.

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby Grizz » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:36 am

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:they're not giving out less money than last year.

Last year a 168/3.7 was good for 72k. This year inferior numbers are getting 75k like it's candy.

If a drop in the year to year rankings really scares you, well, you should probably start rethinking how you're really approaching your decision making. Nothing is different about Emory than it was a year ago, law schools change much more gradually than a news magazine that needs to keep a buzz alive would indicate.

Emory was ranked 32nd 5 years ago, and it's been fluctuating between ~20th and ~30th since the beginning of the rankings. The employment as of the updated NLJ numbers showed Emory was holding steady as of the beginning of ITE despite a 42% offer rate from Atlanta firms that killed Vandy and Duke.

Please kindly chillax, take a step back, and realize what's actually going on.


Edit: admissions dean beat me to it.

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby bigredforlaw » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:54 am

This is class of 2008 data: see the actual website

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So please, don't feel presently disconcerted with what is now pretty much historical data.


When you say actual website do you mean the US News website? It seems like they changed the employment formula, as the Dean stated. From the US News website:

In the past, new J.D.s counted as employed at graduation and at nine months out if they were working full or part time in a legal or non-legal job or pursuing additional graduate school education after their J.D.; so did 25 percent of those whose status was "unknown." Now, both the at graduation and nine months after employment rates are figured solely based on the number of grads working at that point in time full or part time in a legal or non-legal job divided by the total number of J.D. graduates. Also, those who are not seeking employment are now counted in the calculation as part of the total number of J.D. graduates; previously, they were excluded from the size of the graduating class and the calculation.

Is it me or does counting those who are not seeking employment contradict the definition of "unemployed"? I think this change in the formula had a significant impact on the statistics, but of course I am realistic and know that employment remains a much bigger challenge now than it was before 2009. This being said, I think Emory remains a really fine school and I can't wait to visit as a prospective student...annnd hope I get in. =)

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby rman1201 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:56 am

bigredforlaw wrote:Is it me or does counting those who are not seeking employment contradict the definition of "unemployed"? I think this change in the formula had a significant impact on the statistics, but of course I am realistic and know that employment remains a much bigger challenge now than it was before 2009. This being said, I think Emory remains a really fine school and I can't wait to visit as a prospective student...annnd hope I get in. =)


Someone is trying to impress a certain admissions dean...

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby bigredforlaw » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:03 am

rman1201 wrote:
Someone is trying to impress a certain admissions dean...


No, I'm not. I have provided no identifying information and am sure the Dean takes everything written on an online forum with a grain of salt. I'm just trying to be positive while I foresee a lot of people freaking out about the ranking drop.

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby rman1201 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:05 am

bigredforlaw wrote:
rman1201 wrote:
Someone is trying to impress a certain admissions dean...


No, I'm not. I have provided no identifying information and am sure the Dean takes everything written on an online forum with a grain of salt. I'm just trying to be positive while I foresee a lot of people freaking out about the ranking drop.


Then how come my application seems to be 'lost'

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby rman1201 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:44 am

Ding. 167/3.5

99% 100% certain it's due to my TLS account. I don't make an effort to hide my real identity; if they don't like who I am on here then I wouldn't want to be a part of that anyway.

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby Malcolm8X » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:54 am

rman1201 wrote:Ding. 167/3.5

99% 100% certain it's due to my TLS account. I don't make an effort to hide my real identity; if they don't like who I am on here then I wouldn't want to be a part of that anyway.


Wow.. Interesting.

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Re: Emory 2011

Postby krad » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:10 am

rman1201 wrote:Ding. 167/3.5

99% 100% certain it's due to my TLS account. I don't make an effort to hide my real identity; if they don't like who I am on here then I wouldn't want to be a part of that anyway.

:shock:




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