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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby agoldst426 » Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:56 pm

so, i have been complete since 9/30. does this mean a waitlist? should i contact the school and ask whats going on? its really freaking me out!

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby Aggiegrad2011 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:42 am

agoldst426 wrote:so, i have been complete since 9/30. does this mean a waitlist? should i contact the school and ask whats going on? its really freaking me out!


Wow, since SEPTEMBER? You should definitely e-mail them. I totally would.

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby JCougar » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:57 am

agoldst426 wrote:so, i have been complete since 9/30. does this mean a waitlist? should i contact the school and ask whats going on? its really freaking me out!


That depends on what your numbers are.

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby tttlllsss » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:57 am

I'm also sitting at complete since 10/5. LSP has me at a 64%, "strong consider"

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby agoldst426 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:46 am

167, 3.64. what should i say if i call them just ask about the status of my application?

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby justadude55 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:41 am

LSAT comfortably above 75th. GPA of 3.5. Been UR for a few months. I still have not cracked the t-20, but have at least a 1/2 scholly to every school I've been accepted to (rocked and rolled 20-30). what gives?

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby OklahomasOK » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:09 am

Auto-Ding here, no movement for me since 11/12

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby krad » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:19 am

agoldst426 wrote:167, 3.64. what should i say if i call them just ask about the status of my application?

They may be holding because of the LSAT, it looks like WUSTL is going for 168+ right now unless the GPA is really high, URM, etc... http://washu.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats I bet you'll be fine but it'll take longer to hear back :( sorry dude(tte)!

justadude55 wrote:LSAT comfortably above 75th. GPA of 3.5. Been UR for a few months. I still have not cracked the t-20, but have at least a 1/2 scholly to every school I've been accepted to (rocked and rolled 20-30). what gives?


Dude you should be fine, not sure why it's taking so long. I was in within two weeks with a 168/3.44 and, as people have mentioned, they might be looking to jump USC in the rankings with that 168 so you're probs money!

Good luck to you both!

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby JCougar » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:39 pm

agoldst426 wrote:167, 3.64. what should i say if i call them just ask about the status of my application?


You might have to wait a while for that one. 168 seems to be the magic number this year, but remember, that's only what they want their median to be, so about half the class will get in with LSATs below that. Your GPA is in the range where it might be good enough for them to admit you to buttress their GPA median once their LSAT median is secure. But WUSTL seems to focus on achieving their target LSAT median first, and when it's apparent that they've achieved that, they go for other things like GPA median, local people, people with great personal statements/stories, etc. In the past, they have liked people with a 3.65 GPA and higher, because they can round it up and say they have a 3.7 median. But they may have to go with a lower GPA median this year because they're being more selective with the LSAT.

You're literally one of those people who is going to be right on the border with those numbers, so showing interest (if WUSTL is your top choice) will make a lot of difference. If it is, I'd plan a campus visit to see the school and talk with the admissions staff.

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby BeachandRun23 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:34 pm

JCougar wrote:
agoldst426 wrote:167, 3.64. what should i say if i call them just ask about the status of my application?


You might have to wait a while for that one. 168 seems to be the magic number this year, but remember, that's only what they want their median to be, so about half the class will get in with LSATs below that. Your GPA is in the range where it might be good enough for them to admit you to buttress their GPA median once their LSAT median is secure. But WUSTL seems to focus on achieving their target LSAT median first, and when it's apparent that they've achieved that, they go for other things like GPA median, local people, people with great personal statements/stories, etc. In the past, they have liked people with a 3.65 GPA and higher, because they can round it up and say they have a 3.7 median. But they may have to go with a lower GPA median this year because they're being more selective with the LSAT.

You're literally one of those people who is going to be right on the border with those numbers, so showing interest (if WUSTL is your top choice) will make a lot of difference. If it is, I'd plan a campus visit to see the school and talk with the admissions staff.



Look at last year's LSN. Everyone with 167's got in. Even people with gpas under 3.0. I'd say he gets in no problem. Hell just have to wait a little bit.

http://washu.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0910/

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby JCougar » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:42 pm

BeachandRun23 wrote:
JCougar wrote:
agoldst426 wrote:167, 3.64. what should i say if i call them just ask about the status of my application?


You might have to wait a while for that one. 168 seems to be the magic number this year, but remember, that's only what they want their median to be, so about half the class will get in with LSATs below that. Your GPA is in the range where it might be good enough for them to admit you to buttress their GPA median once their LSAT median is secure. But WUSTL seems to focus on achieving their target LSAT median first, and when it's apparent that they've achieved that, they go for other things like GPA median, local people, people with great personal statements/stories, etc. In the past, they have liked people with a 3.65 GPA and higher, because they can round it up and say they have a 3.7 median. But they may have to go with a lower GPA median this year because they're being more selective with the LSAT.

You're literally one of those people who is going to be right on the border with those numbers, so showing interest (if WUSTL is your top choice) will make a lot of difference. If it is, I'd plan a campus visit to see the school and talk with the admissions staff.



Look at last year's LSN. Everyone with 167's got in. Even people with gpas under 3.0. I'd say he gets in no problem. Hell just have to wait a little bit.

http://washu.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0910/


But this year, they're trying to move their median up to 168. It was 167 last year.

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby chrisbru » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:55 pm

JCougar wrote:
But this year, they're trying to move their median up to 168. It was 167 last year.


I also believe that he will get in no problem, he'll just have to wait until they clinch the 168 median. After that, he's a shoo-in

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby BeachandRun23 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:57 pm

JCougar wrote:But this year, they're trying to move their median up to 168. It was 167 last year.


I dont see how they can go from accepting 2.99/167's routinely, to not taking 3.6/167's. They wont be able to raise their medians that much in one year.

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby krad » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:59 pm

chrisbru wrote:
JCougar wrote:
But this year, they're trying to move their median up to 168. It was 167 last year.


I also believe that he will get in no problem, he'll just have to wait until they clinch the 168 median. After that, he's a shoo-in


This

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby weejonbu » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:07 pm

JCougar wrote:
BeachandRun23 wrote:
JCougar wrote:
agoldst426 wrote:167, 3.64. what should i say if i call them just ask about the status of my application?


You might have to wait a while for that one. 168 seems to be the magic number this year, but remember, that's only what they want their median to be, so about half the class will get in with LSATs below that. Your GPA is in the range where it might be good enough for them to admit you to buttress their GPA median once their LSAT median is secure. But WUSTL seems to focus on achieving their target LSAT median first, and when it's apparent that they've achieved that, they go for other things like GPA median, local people, people with great personal statements/stories, etc. In the past, they have liked people with a 3.65 GPA and higher, because they can round it up and say they have a 3.7 median. But they may have to go with a lower GPA median this year because they're being more selective with the LSAT.

You're literally one of those people who is going to be right on the border with those numbers, so showing interest (if WUSTL is your top choice) will make a lot of difference. If it is, I'd plan a campus visit to see the school and talk with the admissions staff.



Look at last year's LSN. Everyone with 167's got in. Even people with gpas under 3.0. I'd say he gets in no problem. Hell just have to wait a little bit.

http://washu.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0910/


But this year, they're trying to move their median up to 168. It was 167 last year.


That may be the case, but you're still speculating. Sheesh.

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby ihp12 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:09 pm

According to LSN decision dates, there were alot more 167s accepted in december last year than have been this year. So I agree that they're making a push for 168, but will be forced to take many more 167s and 166s. Even if they do hit a 168 median, that will mean 50% of attendees will be 167 or less.

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby edgarfigaro » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:13 pm

ihp12 wrote:According to LSN decision dates, there were alot more 167s accepted in december last year than have been this year. So I agree that they're making a push for 168, but will be forced to take many more 167s and 166s. Even if they do hit a 168 median, that will mean 50% of attendees will be 167 or less.


Not exactly...

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby krad » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:16 pm

All some of us are saying is that with an LSAT close to but < 168, people will have to wait it out a little longer. However, with a decent GPA they still have a solid shot at admission. /my contribution

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby chrisbru » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:18 pm

edgarfigaro wrote:
ihp12 wrote:According to LSN decision dates, there were alot more 167s accepted in december last year than have been this year. So I agree that they're making a push for 168, but will be forced to take many more 167s and 166s. Even if they do hit a 168 median, that will mean 50% of attendees will be 167 or less.


Not exactly...


If they do hit a 168 median, it means that exactly ((total attendees/2) - 1) will have a 167 or less. Unless total attendees is an odd number, in which case the exactly ((total attendees/2) - 1.5) will have a 167 or less. By definition, not necessarily practice, of course...

:lol:

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby Birdlaw » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:20 pm

Sorry Krad, I'm thoroughly convinced that a good GPA at WashU is worthless. I'm also pretty sure that its worthless almost everywhere else. Reverse splitter hell sucks, especially when you see someone with a 2.5 getting into WashU on LSN.

I should have never gone to class and just studied for the LSAT for three years.

krad wrote:However, with a decent GPA they still have a solid shot at admission. /my contribution

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby krad » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:22 pm

Birdlaw wrote:Sorry Krad, I'm thoroughly convinced that a good GPA at WashU is worthless. I'm also pretty sure that its worthless almost everywhere else. Reverse splitter hell sucks, especially when you see someone with a 2.5 getting into WashU on LSN.

I should have never gone to class and just studied for the LSAT for three years.


Sorry dude :( I was saying decent GPAs with LSATs below but near 168... I still think its crap that a solid GPA can't pull more weight (and I don't even have one!).

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby Birdlaw » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:27 pm

krad wrote:
Birdlaw wrote:Sorry Krad, I'm thoroughly convinced that a good GPA at WashU is worthless. I'm also pretty sure that its worthless almost everywhere else. Reverse splitter hell sucks, especially when you see someone with a 2.5 getting into WashU on LSN.

I should have never gone to class and just studied for the LSAT for three years.


Sorry dude :( I was saying decent GPAs with LSATs below but near 168... I still think its crap that a solid GPA can't pull more weight (and I don't even have one!).


Thanks for the reverse splitter sympathy. I am really just bitter at this point. Hopefully I'll squeeze in somehow. I need to get off TLS and go talk to my friends/family who think that a 163 is a good score.

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby T6Hopeful » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:28 pm

chrisbru wrote:
edgarfigaro wrote:
ihp12 wrote:According to LSN decision dates, there were alot more 167s accepted in december last year than have been this year. So I agree that they're making a push for 168, but will be forced to take many more 167s and 166s. Even if they do hit a 168 median, that will mean 50% of attendees will be 167 or less.


Not exactly...


If they do hit a 168 median, it means that exactly ((total attendees/2) - 1) will have a 167 or less. Unless total attendees is an odd number, in which case the exactly ((total attendees/2) - 1.5) will have a 167 or less. By definition, not necessarily practice, of course...

:lol:

Like edgarfigaro said, not exactly...
Hypothetically, going off of last year's 25% of 162, everyone from the 26th percentile to 74th percentile could have a 168, and leave the 25th and 75th percentiles alone.
For example: say that the given admits for a year are 160, 161, 162, 162, 162, 168, 168, 168, 168, 168, 168, 168, 169, 169, 169, 169, 170. In this case, 25% = 162, 75% = 169, and median is 168. But, everything in between 25 and 75 is 168. Not to burst anyone's bubble, but it's just wrong, statistically speaking, to say that the anything below the median %-wise is NECESSARILY below the median numbers wise. The only conclusion you can make is that 25% of people will have something in between (but including) 25th to 50th percentile, and the same for 50th to 75th percentile.

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby TatteredDignity » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:31 pm

RicketyCricket wrote:IN! Finally, I know I'm going to law school.

(3.4/170, in case anyone is wondering)


I thought this might set off another batch of decisions, but he seems to be the only one on here and LSN that got in Monday. Odd.

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Re: WUSTL 2011 Cycle

Postby chrisbru » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:33 pm

T6Hopeful wrote:
chrisbru wrote:
edgarfigaro wrote:
ihp12 wrote:According to LSN decision dates, there were alot more 167s accepted in december last year than have been this year. So I agree that they're making a push for 168, but will be forced to take many more 167s and 166s. Even if they do hit a 168 median, that will mean 50% of attendees will be 167 or less.


Not exactly...


If they do hit a 168 median, it means that exactly ((total attendees/2) - 1) will have a 167 or less. Unless total attendees is an odd number, in which case the exactly ((total attendees/2) - 1.5) will have a 167 or less. By definition, not necessarily practice, of course...

:lol:

Like edgarfigaro said, not exactly...
Hypothetically, going off of last year's 25% of 162, everyone from the 26th percentile to 74th percentile could have a 168, and leave the 25th and 75th percentiles alone.
For example: say that the given admits for a year are 160, 161, 162, 162, 162, 168, 168, 168, 168, 168, 168, 168, 169, 169, 169, 169, 170. In this case, 25% = 162, 75% = 169, and median is 168. But, everything in between 25 and 75 is 168. Not to burst anyone's bubble, but it's just wrong, statistically speaking, to say that the anything below the median %-wise is NECESSARILY below the median numbers wise. The only conclusion you can make is that 25% of people will have something in between (but including) 25th to 50th percentile, and the same for 50th to 75th percentile.


Truth. I have been out of statistics and in a mind-numbing excel driven "analyst" job for too long.




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