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Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:43 pm
by Autoaccept
TyrodTaylor wrote:you will def be admitted, i think they were serious about most decisions in march, not only waitlists, but acceptances.
Possibly, just hard to imagine how my application would get so far on the bottom of the "pile" to not be reviewed until 3 months after it was submitted while most others (seemingly) have gotten decisions.

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:46 pm
by TyrodTaylor
As far as reverse splitters, I had a frined last year accepted with a 4.0 and 162.

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:47 pm
by TyrodTaylor
I also feel like most others havent gotten decisions. I only think I got mine because I visited and pushed a little.

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:49 pm
by subtle
TyrodTaylor wrote:As far as reverse splitters, I had a frined last year accepted with a 4.0 and 162.

That's somewhat encouraging, except that I don't have a 4.0.

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:52 pm
by leidice
subtle wrote:
TyrodTaylor wrote:As far as reverse splitters, I had a frined last year accepted with a 4.0 and 162.

That's somewhat encouraging, except that I don't have a 4.0.
+1

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:53 pm
by fetalposition
What does everyone think about the career prospects from W&M? I don't really know what to think about the 15% NLJ 250 placement rate (although I won't put too much emphasis on those stats).

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:56 pm
by askyemcdonald
fetalposition wrote:What does everyone think about the career prospects from W&M? I don't really know what to think about the 15% NLJ 250 placement rate (although I won't put too much emphasis on those stats).
+1

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:12 pm
by TyrodTaylor
I think that W&M is one of those schools where a lot of people arent shooting for biglaw, and I know that is an easy way to cop out of the rankings, but I think that it is the case at W&M moreso than say a W&L. I think prospects will be great for VA firms as well as DC firms. I am only shooting for bigger richmond firms, so for me I feel like it is the perfect fit.

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:17 pm
by AP-375
fetalposition wrote:What does everyone think about the career prospects from W&M? I don't really know what to think about the 15% NLJ 250 placement rate (although I won't put too much emphasis on those stats).
Of course I'm biased by my hope, but I feel like W&M has better national placement and prestige than most of the schools in the same range. At least at my Texas firm, I've been very surprised at how impressed people are by W&M, even compared to all of the Texas schools, except UT.
On the other hand, I do worry about it being in a super-saturated market, but it sounds like if you can do well, you can have great job options.
I'm hoping the doom and gloom of the legal job market will at least be a little rosier in two years.
Blind optimism, maybe.

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:19 pm
by fetalposition
Yeah that's kind of what I figured. One thing I noticed about W&M is that private practice numbers are very, very low for a school of its caliber (circa 52% I believe). I wonder why that is? Perhaps a lot of public interest kids go to W&M because it's also much cheaper than its peer schools... can't beat 49k per year compared to like 75k at Fordham or GW

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:10 pm
by ktg808
cmaas wrote:SC says, "Congrats!" and that my packet has been mailed. I guess that means I'm in....
you are! congrats!

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:55 pm
by brose
TyrodTaylor wrote:As far as reverse splitters, I had a frined last year accepted with a 4.0 and 162.
I was accepted this year with a 160, 3.7 with scholly $$ so you don't even need to be that extreme..

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:03 pm
by subtle
brose wrote:
TyrodTaylor wrote:As far as reverse splitters, I had a frined last year accepted with a 4.0 and 162.
I was accepted this year with a 160, 3.7 with scholly $$ so you don't even need to be that extreme..

Perfect. :) Now I just have to wait.

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:32 pm
by gatorlaw2011
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Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:38 pm
by kjadkins
gatorlizzy28 wrote:I just booked my flight for the ASW. I'm excited to visit. I also emailed yesterday asking about increasing a scholarship so I'll let everyone know how that works out/how long it takes for me.
Good luck! And I'll see you in a couple of weeks :)

I'm excited for ASW, I loved the informal visit I had at the beginning of the semester.

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:19 pm
by aquyenl
gatorlizzy28 wrote:I just booked my flight for the ASW. I'm excited to visit. I also emailed yesterday asking about increasing a scholarship so I'll let everyone know how that works out/how long it takes for me.
same here, i used W&L and emory as leverage. it's been almost 2 weeks though, so i hope theyre just not ignoring it :/

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:28 pm
by AP-375
Man, did every admitted person here email and ask for more money?? It sure seems like it. I wonder if they get annoyed by it, or if it's just par for the course.
(You guys are totally kililng my chances for when I make the same request.)

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:38 pm
by ktg808
AP-375 wrote:Man, did every admitted person here email and ask for more money?? It sure seems like it. I wonder if they get annoyed by it, or if it's just par for the course.
(You guys are totally kililng my chances for when I make the same request.)

I didn't ask yet.

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:58 pm
by sabenser
AP-375 wrote:Man, did every admitted person here email and ask for more money?? It sure seems like it. I wonder if they get annoyed by it, or if it's just par for the course.
(You guys are totally kililng my chances for when I make the same request.)
I didn't ask yet. It may be wrong but I'm waiting to be admitted before asking for money, haha.

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:08 pm
by gogamecocks
brose wrote:
TyrodTaylor wrote:As far as reverse splitters, I had a frined last year accepted with a 4.0 and 162.
I was accepted this year with a 160, 3.7 with scholly $$ so you don't even need to be that extreme..
That does give me hope

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:14 pm
by bluebird22
fetalposition wrote:Yeah that's kind of what I figured. One thing I noticed about W&M is that private practice numbers are very, very low for a school of its caliber (circa 52% I believe). I wonder why that is? Perhaps a lot of public interest kids go to W&M because it's also much cheaper than its peer schools... can't beat 49k per year compared to like 75k at Fordham or GW
Hey! I'm a 1L and I think a lot of the reason the private practice numbers are so low is that a lot of people that come here come because its so well regarded for public service. The "Citizen Lawyer" ideal is taken seriously here and a lot of people have no desire to go to a big firm or enter into private practice. Plus, if you want to go into public service, you can't really beat w&m's price! Hope this helps!

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:30 pm
by tttlllsss
bluebird22 wrote:
fetalposition wrote:Yeah that's kind of what I figured. One thing I noticed about W&M is that private practice numbers are very, very low for a school of its caliber (circa 52% I believe). I wonder why that is? Perhaps a lot of public interest kids go to W&M because it's also much cheaper than its peer schools... can't beat 49k per year compared to like 75k at Fordham or GW
Hey! I'm a 1L and I think a lot of the reason the private practice numbers are so low is that a lot of people that come here come because its so well regarded for public service. The "Citizen Lawyer" ideal is taken seriously here and a lot of people have no desire to go to a big firm or enter into private practice. Plus, if you want to go into public service, you can't really beat w&m's price! Hope this helps!
Do the students who want private jobs get them?

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:04 pm
by leidice
tttlllsss wrote:
bluebird22 wrote:
fetalposition wrote:Yeah that's kind of what I figured. One thing I noticed about W&M is that private practice numbers are very, very low for a school of its caliber (circa 52% I believe). I wonder why that is? Perhaps a lot of public interest kids go to W&M because it's also much cheaper than its peer schools... can't beat 49k per year compared to like 75k at Fordham or GW
Hey! I'm a 1L and I think a lot of the reason the private practice numbers are so low is that a lot of people that come here come because its so well regarded for public service. The "Citizen Lawyer" ideal is taken seriously here and a lot of people have no desire to go to a big firm or enter into private practice. Plus, if you want to go into public service, you can't really beat w&m's price! Hope this helps!
Do the students who want private jobs get them?
+1

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:38 pm
by bigredforlaw
novab wrote:
bigredforlaw wrote:It seems like a lot of people think it is beneficial (both for yourself and for your application) to visit W&M. Does anyone have any advice for someone who is unable to visit but has W&M as one of their top choices? LOCI or anything?
I would probably e-mail Dean Shealy an LOCI/Why W&M. I was able to meet with her in person (after I was accepted) and she is very nice and very interested in the applicants (that's at least the feeling I got from her). I enjoyed talking to her and she made me feel like W&M was a good choice for me based upon what W&M has to offer. So, I would e-mail her why you are unable to visit in the next few weeks and why you want to go to W&M. I dont think it can hurt.
Hey, thanks so much for the advice! I called the office today and made an appointment to talk to dean Shealy tomorrow afternoon. To those of you who have visited and met with her...what should I expect her to ask me? I mean, I can talk about my application at length and have a few questions for her since I can't visit, but any general advice would be great! Thanks!

Re: William & Mary 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:51 pm
by kjadkins
bigredforlaw wrote:
novab wrote:
bigredforlaw wrote:It seems like a lot of people think it is beneficial (both for yourself and for your application) to visit W&M. Does anyone have any advice for someone who is unable to visit but has W&M as one of their top choices? LOCI or anything?
I would probably e-mail Dean Shealy an LOCI/Why W&M. I was able to meet with her in person (after I was accepted) and she is very nice and very interested in the applicants (that's at least the feeling I got from her). I enjoyed talking to her and she made me feel like W&M was a good choice for me based upon what W&M has to offer. So, I would e-mail her why you are unable to visit in the next few weeks and why you want to go to W&M. I dont think it can hurt.
Hey, thanks so much for the advice! I called the office today and made an appointment to talk to dean Shealy tomorrow afternoon. To those of you who have visited and met with her...what should I expect her to ask me? I mean, I can talk about my application at length and have a few questions for her since I can't visit, but any general advice would be great! Thanks!
She asked me Why WM, about a couple of my jobs/internships, and about a couple of my major extracurriculars, and maybe a couple of other things and then left some time for me to ask questions.