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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby Sicsofs » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:40 am

complete 2/3, UR 2/7, and held on 3/22. I know I should be hoping for a WL at this point, but with my stats (so embarrassed that i would only share if i got in) i think they would have done that before or rejected me. The hold blew my mind. So in my mind, i am in until i am out. I feel a nod coming soon. I believe in you JR, I believe.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby Bulldog05 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:17 am

I've been following this thread for weeks but haven't posted. Dinged this morning. UR 1/31. Good luck to those still waiting.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby billyanks2 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:19 pm

I'm UR 3/15, Complete 3/24 (submitted application on 1/31), I'm amazed (and less than hopeful) to hear that people who went UR over a month before me are just hearing now.

I've got jobs to decide on within the next two weeks... I hope some movement happens soon. I think my plan is to mulligan, take a job for two years, apply in september of the second year.
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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby misterbingley » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:56 pm

Anybody know when the first combo JR1/JR2s of last cycle were reported?

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby Weirdlog » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:06 pm

misterbingley wrote:Anybody know when the first combo JR1/JR2s of last cycle were reported?


Mid-April, I believe.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby Sicsofs » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:32 pm

Weirdlog wrote:
misterbingley wrote:Anybody know when the first combo JR1/JR2s of last cycle were reported?


Mid-April, I believe.


Combos? I know they are a delicious snack especially the pizza ones, but please elaborate on this JR1/2 combo. I have never heard of this type.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby d34d9823 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:11 pm

Sicsofs wrote:
Weirdlog wrote:
misterbingley wrote:Anybody know when the first combo JR1/JR2s of last cycle were reported?


Mid-April, I believe.


Combos? I know they are a delicious snack especially the pizza ones, but please elaborate on this JR1/2 combo. I have never heard of this type.

If they are crunched for time, he will make the JR1/2 in the same call.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby Sicsofs » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:20 pm

d34dluk3 wrote:
Sicsofs wrote:
Weirdlog wrote:
misterbingley wrote:Anybody know when the first combo JR1/JR2s of last cycle were reported?


Mid-April, I believe.


Combos? I know they are a delicious snack especially the pizza ones, but please elaborate on this JR1/2 combo. I have never heard of this type.

If they are crunched for time, he will make the JR1/2 in the same call.


So i have heard of a couple JR1 holds. But if they get to the JR 1/2 combo time, is it basically just a JR2. Could you possible screw it up enough for him to change his mind on the phone.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby hoping » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:27 pm

Mid-April, I believe.[/quote]

Combos? I know they are a delicious snack especially the pizza ones, but please elaborate on this JR1/2 combo. I have never heard of this type.[/quote]
If they are crunched for time, he will make the JR1/2 in the same call.[/quote]

So i have heard of a couple JR1 holds. But if they get to the JR 1/2 combo time, is it basically just a JR2. Could you possible screw it up enough for him to change his mind on the phone.[/quote]
yup---the jr1/rejections phone calls start at the same time...

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby d34d9823 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:29 pm

Sicsofs wrote:So i have heard of a couple JR1 holds. But if they get to the JR 1/2 combo time, is it basically just a JR2. Could you possible screw it up enough for him to change his mind on the phone.

Common sense says definitely. Why would a busy person waste their time like that if it was already decided?

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby Sicsofs » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:31 pm

hoping wrote:Mid-April, I believe.


Combos? I know they are a delicious snack especially the pizza ones, but please elaborate on this JR1/2 combo. I have never heard of this type.[/quote]
If they are crunched for time, he will make the JR1/2 in the same call.[/quote]

So i have heard of a couple JR1 holds. But if they get to the JR 1/2 combo time, is it basically just a JR2. Could you possible screw it up enough for him to change his mind on the phone.[/quote]
yup---the jr1/rejections phone calls start at the same time...[/quote]

Really, that would be the most depressing day ever. To get the man on the phone ready to admit you only to have you fumble at the goal line. That might be the very essence of choking.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby d34d9823 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:34 pm

Sicsofs wrote:Really, that would be the most depressing day ever. To get the man on the phone ready to admit you only to have you fumble at the goal line. That might be the very essence of choking.

I think that's the wrong way to look at it. There are probably people who are rejects going into the call but he will admit if he is super impressed. Then there are the people who are admits going into the call who can lose it if they are terrible.

Since you don't know which you are, it's impossible to know how much the call influenced your decision.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby Sicsofs » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:37 pm

d34dluk3 wrote:
Sicsofs wrote:So i have heard of a couple JR1 holds. But if they get to the JR 1/2 combo time, is it basically just a JR2. Could you possible screw it up enough for him to change his mind on the phone.

Common sense says definitely. Why would a busy person waste their time like that if it was already decided?


Well maybe i am not understanding the JR1 process. I read the interview on here in which he says its a 10-15 minute conversation just to get a feel for you, talk resume, and so on. Knowing that 800 of the 1000 get admitted, at this stage in the game the "interview" seemed like a formality since its not a formal interview. I would just figure at this stage in the cycle it would be a Ding, WL, or JR1/2. Sorry kids, i am still new to all this.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby Sicsofs » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:38 pm

d34dluk3 wrote:
Sicsofs wrote:Really, that would be the most depressing day ever. To get the man on the phone ready to admit you only to have you fumble at the goal line. That might be the very essence of choking.

I think that's the wrong way to look at it. There are probably people who are rejects going into the call but he will admit if he is super impressed. Then there are the people who are admits going into the call who can lose it if they are terrible.

Since you don't know which you are, it's impossible to know how much the call influenced your decision.


Ah, i got you. I would definitely have to be in the earlier of those scenarios, but that would be just fine by me.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby dkt4 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:47 pm

my JR1 was pretty much just the following questions...

why do you want to be a lawyer?

what kind of law are you interested in?

why harvard?

it's really hard to screw up that badly...i stumbled through it without having any good answers (didn't realize i was getting a JR1 cause my UG screwed up my e-mail forwarding).

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby Sicsofs » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:52 pm

dkt4 wrote:my JR1 was pretty much just the following questions...

why do you want to be a lawyer?

what kind of law are you interested in?

why harvard?

it's really hard to screw up that badly...i stumbled through it without having any good answers (didn't realize i was getting a JR1 cause my UG screwed up my e-mail forwarding).


That's what i thought it was supposed to be like. Thanks bro and congrats. It looks like you have had a sick cycle.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby arkansawyer » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:00 pm

Well maybe i am not understanding the JR1 process. I read the interview on here in which he says its a 10-15 minute conversation just to get a feel for you, talk resume, and so on. Knowing that 800 of the 1000 get admitted, at this stage in the game the "interview" seemed like a formality since its not a formal interview. I would just figure at this stage in the cycle it would be a Ding, WL, or JR1/2. Sorry kids, i am still new to all this.


+1

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby may » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:02 pm

Sicsofs wrote:
d34dluk3 wrote:
Sicsofs wrote:Really, that would be the most depressing day ever. To get the man on the phone ready to admit you only to have you fumble at the goal line. That might be the very essence of choking.

I think that's the wrong way to look at it. There are probably people who are rejects going into the call but he will admit if he is super impressed. Then there are the people who are admits going into the call who can lose it if they are terrible.

Since you don't know which you are, it's impossible to know how much the call influenced your decision.


Ah, i got you. I would definitely have to be in the earlier of those scenarios, but that would be just fine by me.


It could also be to gauge the interest of the applicant, especially if it comes really late in the cycle. Take this case for example: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/underwhere108 The applicant waffled over whether she would pick Harvard over Columbia and subsequently did not get an offer on the end of the JR1. I think gauging continued interest might also play a role.

Also, I read some cases where the JR2 was a second phone call later in the day.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby r6_philly » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:24 pm

Well I am certainly still very interested. :)

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby Sicsofs » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:32 pm

r6_philly wrote:Well I am certainly still very interested. :)


Ya Know!!! I get financial constraints. But short of $$$$ at a T10 and no money at H, who says no to Harvard. Seriously. Who does that? When i see em "I'm gonna thank em, I'm gonna buy the album, I'm gonna shoot a bootlegger", the way i feel about those people.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby Kiwi917 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:34 pm

dkt4 wrote:my JR1 was pretty much just the following questions...

why do you want to be a lawyer?

what kind of law are you interested in?

why harvard?

it's really hard to screw up that badly...i stumbled through it without having any good answers (didn't realize i was getting a JR1 cause my UG screwed up my e-mail forwarding).


Mine was essentially the same as this. I thought it went fine, save for a little awkward rambling at a couple points - but no JR2 for me. I like to think I didn't screw up that badly, but JR might disagree... I knew I was a very borderline candidate, though, and was shocked to get an interview in the first place.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby Sicsofs » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:50 pm

Kiwi917 wrote:
dkt4 wrote:my JR1 was pretty much just the following questions...

why do you want to be a lawyer?

what kind of law are you interested in?

why harvard?

it's really hard to screw up that badly...i stumbled through it without having any good answers (didn't realize i was getting a JR1 cause my UG screwed up my e-mail forwarding).


Mine was essentially the same as this. I thought it went fine, save for a little awkward rambling at a couple points - but no JR2 for me. I like to think I didn't screw up that badly, but JR might disagree... I knew I was a very borderline candidate, though, and was shocked to get an interview in the first place.


I guess those are some pretty borderline stats, technically, but this late in the game i don't see them having a bunch of 176 pluses just hanging around . Hey it aint over til its over. I still gotta put you at better than even money.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby chiedisevuoi » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:28 pm

A question, folks:

I went from a JR1 --> weeks of silence --> LOCI --> held --> sent in extra material --> my status is now "under review" again on the status checker.

But now I can't remember if the status checker ever said "held" (or, i.e., what it did say when I was held). Would it have been something other than "UR" when I was held? Even though knowing what my status means is not of any consequence to whether I will be accepted, I'm curious...

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby mel2010 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:28 pm

chiedisevuoi wrote:A question, folks:

I went from a JR1 --> weeks of silence --> LOCI --> held --> sent in extra material --> my status is now "under review" again on the status checker.

But now I can't remember if the status checker ever said "held" (or, i.e., what it did say when I was held). Would it have been something other than "UR" when I was held? Even though knowing what my status means is not of any consequence to whether I will be accepted, I'm curious...

Once you get held, the UR date changes to the day you were held, IIRC.

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Re: Harvard 2011 Applicants

Postby arkansawyer » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:52 pm

A question, folks:

I went from a JR1 --> weeks of silence --> LOCI --> held --> sent in extra material --> my status is now "under review" again on the status checker.

But now I can't remember if the status checker ever said "held" (or, i.e., what it did say when I was held). Would it have been something other than "UR" when I was held? Even though knowing what my status means is not of any consequence to whether I will be accepted, I'm curious...
Haha, I bet I wasn't the only one to look at my status checker after reading this.




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