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Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:06 am
by ashleyryan
Even though I'm still UR, can I send a scholarship form? Or is just for admitted students? Ahhhh

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:52 pm
by r6_philly
ashleyryan wrote:Even though I'm still UR, can I send a scholarship form? Or is just for admitted students? Ahhhh
Admitted only since you can only get the form sent to you after admission or get it from the admitted student site.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:34 pm
by srvyorgeneral
Still UR 1/31. REALLY wondering why they're keeping me on ice for so long. The optimistic part of me says that there must be some reason they haven't axed me yet. But then I remember that this is law school admissions we're talking about, and there's really no inherent logic to anything that happens.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:38 pm
by damage-inc
beachbum wrote:
askyemcdonald wrote:Update 3/4...Holy Crap between Duke and GULC updates today I'm on the edge of my seat
You should be getting a decision within the next 48 hours.
Is there any substance to this 48 hours rule? I'm still waiting on my 3/2 date but I know that Duke has sent out decisions on Saturday before

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:02 pm
by ashleyre
Does anyone know if they always send out a decision shortly after the second UR date?

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:10 pm
by ChuckSchick
damage-inc wrote:
beachbum wrote:
askyemcdonald wrote:Update 3/4...Holy Crap between Duke and GULC updates today I'm on the edge of my seat
You should be getting a decision within the next 48 hours.
Is there any substance to this 48 hours rule? I'm still waiting on my 3/2 date but I know that Duke has sent out decisions on Saturday before
Curious about this as well.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:33 pm
by BeachedBrit
The rule isn't really a rule as much as a theory. One that doesn't appear to be holding for ANY of the 3/2 UR update group as I haven't seen/heard a peep from Duke nor anyone else in that group.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:36 pm
by dpk711
Apparently this 3/2 group has a lot of high LSATs scores but lower GPAs?

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:42 pm
by athletics005
dpk711 wrote:Apparently this 3/2 group has a lot of high LSATs scores but lower GPAs?
I have the opposite at 4.1/167 and still holding at 3/2. Glad to be paired with you guys but fearing the WL.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:55 pm
by damage-inc
athletics005 wrote:
dpk711 wrote:Apparently this 3/2 group has a lot of high LSATs scores but lower GPAs?
I have the opposite at 4.1/167 and still holding at 3/2. Glad to be paired with you guys but fearing the WL.
Same. 3.9/167

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:06 pm
by tipler4213
54K over three years. At first it seemed exciting, and then I realized I would still be a 150k in debt. No contingencies though.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:14 pm
by mr_toad
Put it into an excel sheet and figure out the differences between 150k and 200k. It's illuminating and shocking (i.e., IF you can afford about 2200 a month, I think you're done paying back 150k something like 5 years earlier. Ok, just did it. If you pay 2200 per month and never raise it, you're done with 150k (assuming 8% interest) after 7 yrs and 7 mnths. If 200 k, 11 yrs and 7 months. Of course, the cynic would say, if you can afford 150, you can afford 200. If you can't afford 200, you can't afford 150, etc. But still, them's the numbers).

I might have lost track of my parentheses. Forgive!

Edit: for those counting, the difference in payback for those four years is $105 k of AFTER-tax money (not counting interest you could have earned investing it... 54k is a lot of scholarship money if you look at it the right way).

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:19 pm
by waitlisteddd
damage-inc wrote:
athletics005 wrote:
dpk711 wrote:Apparently this 3/2 group has a lot of high LSATs scores but lower GPAs?
I have the opposite at 4.1/167 and still holding at 3/2. Glad to be paired with you guys but fearing the WL.
Same. 3.9/167
I'm a high LSAT, low GPA (171/3.7)

this sounds like the 3/2's may be waitlisted...ugh.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:25 pm
by damage-inc
this sounds like the 3/2's may be waitlisted...ugh.
lets hope not

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:30 pm
by waitlisteddd
i'm not even a 3/2-er...haha i am an idiot and don't know how to read.

please ignore everything i say.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:34 pm
by damage-inc
lol im confused now.

So your file is not under review?

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:36 pm
by waitlisteddd
damage-inc wrote:lol im confused now.

So your file is not under review?
no it is, it just wasn't updated to 3/2. its been a long day. im struggling to make sense.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:38 pm
by damage-inc
waitlisteddd wrote:
damage-inc wrote:lol im confused now.

So your file is not under review?
no it is, it just wasn't updated to 3/2. its been a long day. im struggling to make sense.
No problem. Kudos for trying to make some sense of this review date. So I guess the original theory holds that this group has a large share of high gpa-ers and scattered amount of splitters?

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:50 pm
by Kiwi917
Just to tag this thread and add another data point for those considering the significance of the 3/2 update: I had a 176/3.56, submitted 11/11/10. Expecting WL, especially since I did not write a Why Duke.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:32 pm
by rockies2
Anyone here with similar dates? Submitted 1/7 -- complete 1/24 -- UR 2/21.

Ima splitter - very low GPA, somewhat high LSAT.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:11 am
by bigjinjapan
Still UR 1/18. Splitter. Would be nice to see some movement, though I'm afraid the best I can expect is probably WL at this point...

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:40 am
by BeachedBrit
Not really sure what to expect from this update, I'm hoping at least some acceptances.

For those that didn't know UVA just upped most of their scholarship offers by $10k+/yr which will likely have a slight effect on Duke's actual yield (not sure if they'll make any adjustments to their projected) and may lead to a few people that have been accepted going ahead and withdrawing/depositing at UVA. Normally I'd say something like this probably isn't very relevant but Duke's small class size + close proximity to UVA geographically and in the rankings + a fairly significant bump in scholarship $$ at UVA = some net effect on Duke's yield i'd imagine.

Also for what it's worth when I was there recently they were telling me how their target class size used to be 220. Last year they overenrolled by 20+ people and had 24x people, this year apparently they are not only trying to avoid over-enrolling but are reducing the target class size to 200 people, that likely bodes well for anyone that got PR as I'd expect to see more conservative use of accept vs. PR.

Basically I'm just rambling because I want Duke (it fits my interests perfectly) and need something to do during the wait since the 3/2 UR update.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:15 am
by beachbum
BeachedBrit wrote:Not really sure what to expect from this update, I'm hoping at least some acceptances.

For those that didn't know UVA just upped most of their scholarship offers by $10k+/yr which will likely have a slight effect on Duke's actual yield (not sure if they'll make any adjustments to their projected) and may lead to a few people that have been accepted going ahead and withdrawing/depositing at UVA. Normally I'd say something like this probably isn't very relevant but Duke's small class size + close proximity to UVA geographically and in the rankings + a fairly significant bump in scholarship $$ at UVA = some net effect on Duke's yield i'd imagine.

Also for what it's worth when I was there recently they were telling me how their target class size used to be 220. Last year they overenrolled by 20+ people and had 24x people, this year apparently they are not only trying to avoid over-enrolling but are reducing the target class size to 200 people, that likely bodes well for anyone that got PR as I'd expect to see more conservative use of accept vs. PR.

Basically I'm just rambling because I want Duke (it fits my interests perfectly) and need something to do during the wait since the 3/2 UR update.
Great news, thanks.

Smaller class = less competition for jerbs. Also, larger scholarships (particularly with a competitor offering more money)?

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:55 am
by BeachedBrit
No idea about the scholarships but I agree about the jobs.

Overall the more I consider the different law schools the more I'm attracted to the schools with smaller classes. More professor interaction, smaller 1L classes etc. Duke also really impressed me because it seemed like they had the small class size without limiting resources by scaling them down along with the class size. I didn't get a chance to see much of career services but I'd imagine that the smaller class size helps offer more interaction with them.

Re: Duke NOT Priority Track

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:47 am
by beachbum
BeachedBrit wrote:No idea about the scholarships but I agree about the jobs.

Overall the more I consider the different law schools the more I'm attracted to the schools with smaller classes. More professor interaction, smaller 1L classes etc. Duke also really impressed me because it seemed like they had the small class size without limiting resources by scaling them down along with the class size. I didn't get a chance to see much of career services but I'd imagine that the smaller class size helps offer more interaction with them.
Yeah, I'm the same way. I think it creates a much more tightly-knit environment, and it establishes the scarcity of your degree (which helps when firms are trying to diversify, or when your graduates are competing for the same markets). Definitely a plus in my eyes (though it's not for everyone), and a big reason why I chose Duke over its peers.

Anyway, best of luck with Duke. Hopefully you get a response within the next few days.