Fordham 2011

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby H. E. Pennypacker » Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:57 pm

Gotti wrote:
H. E. Pennypacker wrote:
Gotti wrote:
you think this is accurate though? Do Fordham grads really placed that high or is it a skewed/biased report?


Well any school is going to spotlight the numbers in a way that makes them the most attractive, and without researching it myself I can't say whether that chart is true, but again, Fordham has a very good reputation in NYC firms, they know what they're getting with Fordham grads.



Yeah I know Fordham is a good school but I just don't understand why it's ranked 34 this year. Obviously a lot of factors come into play like you said earlier, but what I'm having a hard time with is this:

I'm from CA, but I LOVE NYC and want to live there for a while...so I'm looking at NYC schools. I have absolutely no idea what my mindset is going to be like 3.5-4 years from now...I don't know if I'm going to still love NYC and want to live there or if I'm going to want to move back home. So let's say I get into USC, which is T20, and have a choice between there and Fordham. I feel like USC is the better option overall and will definitely be the best choice if I want to live in LA or CA in general, but I have my heart set to go to NYC for a while and I might want to end up there. How do I justify picking #34 over #18 if I have no idea where I want to be in 4 years??


If you want NYC, Fordham is probably you best bet. Fordham was in the 20's before the PT numbers were included, much like GW. When GW cut their program in half, they jumped right back to the early twenties. I would be surprised if Fordham wasn't in the twenties again when the new rankings come out in April. I also don't think any of the hiring partners at the big firms see the drop from 28 to 34 (if they even see it at all) as a sign that the quality of Fordham grads is substantially decreasing. It's obviously a tough choice (i'm from NY so it was easy for me) but oh well. I can't speak for USC, but most of my classmates are very happy with the decsion they made.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby youarereadingthis » Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:58 pm

Gotti wrote:
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Gotti wrote:Question….what do you guys think of this:

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I know people on this thread have applied and therefore think Fordham is a viable option (unlike everyone else on TLS that thinks going to Fordham is the worst decision ever), so that’s why I’m asking here. I’ll probably post this elsewhere as well just to get more opinions. It seems that if this were true and if it’s competing fiercely with T14, the law school would be ranked a little higher…?

Source: http://law.fordham.edu/about-fordham/5247.htm


you have to remember that there are a lot of factors that go into the rankings, not just job placement. Fordham took a hit when the PT numbers were included, but has cut the class in half and raised the medians. I think the facilities also factor in, and Fordham is def lacking in that capacity (at present, anyway).


hipstermafia wrote:location, location, location. nyc is by far the largest biglaw market.



you think this is accurate though? Do Fordham grads really placed that high or is it a skewed/biased report?



The chart cites the amount of total Fordham almuni in the top firms, not the amount of Fordham students currently being placed in those firms in recent classes.

Considering the size of Fordham Law's class in comparison to say... Cornell, BC, or Yale for example and you can start to see how going to Fordham doesn't really give you the career prospects indicated in the chart.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby nygrrrl » Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:58 pm

H. E. Pennypacker wrote:If you want NYC, Fordham is probably you best bet. Fordham was in the 20's before the PT numbers were included, much like GW. When GW cut their program in half, they jumped right back to the early twenties. I would be surprised if Fordham wasn't in the twenties again when the new rankings come out in April. I also don't think any of the hiring partners at the big firms see the drop from 28 to 34 (if they even see it at all) as a sign that the quality of Fordham grads is substantially decreasing. It's obviously a tough choice (i'm from NY so it was easy for me) but oh well. I can't speak for USC, but most of my classmates are very happy with the decsion they made.


What he said.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby H. E. Pennypacker » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:01 pm

I think having that many alumni from your school would bode well for you and speak to what the big firms think of Fordham grads. Just my $.02.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby Gotti » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:56 pm

btw does anyone know how many people they're admitting this year? approximately?

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby nightman09 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:59 pm

just rejected via status checker ... bitches

complete 11/2 -> UR 11/29 -> complete 12/8 -> decision 12/14

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby binghamtonalum » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:06 pm

163
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denied part-time. bs.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby champ33 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:38 pm

Surprised to be denied to part-time as well. I'm 165 / 3.45.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby username99 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:50 pm

Just got waitlisted via status check. I am baffled.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby akcorps » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:53 pm

Is Fordham generally slower to admit PT applicants? All I see are rejections on both TLS and LSN. Can anyone shed light on this?

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby DorianGray89 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:54 pm

username99 wrote:Just got waitlisted via status check. I am baffled.


Pt of Ft?
Mind PM me your numbers?

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby zeke18 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:56 pm

Has anyone received their waitlist letter via snail mail yet? I'm still waiting on mine (it's been a week now) and curious to see what information they provide about the waitlist process.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby cjr52 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:58 pm

Yikes, just got waitlisted too... Pretty surprised. The status checker never even went under review. 3.3/170 in case anyone is curious.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby Stringer6 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:20 pm

Gotti:

i think someone already said this, but in answer to your question: fordham has a good reputation in nyc and a ton of the best firms are in nyc.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby Gotti » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:58 pm

Gotti wrote:btw does anyone know how many people they're admitting this year? approximately?



anyone know?

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby nymario » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:59 pm

also WL via status checker today (11/2 submit, 12/1 complete after UR). I think I'm going to Dozo AEP next month.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby snapdragon » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:02 pm

Wow, they're WLing 170s? I'm in trouble for sure...

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby Gotti » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:05 pm

snapdragon wrote:Wow, they're WLing 170s? I'm in trouble for sure...



me too but i'm suspecting YP and no splitter love. i'm a reverse splitter so idk about me either :?

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby Woods, Elle » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:30 pm

Hi all!

I've been lurking for awhile, but thought I'd start posting now.
Fordham is my reach, but I've been anxiously waiting to hear back, as well.

GPA: 3.43, LSAT = 164

I know I probably don't have a good shot, but like I said, it's my reach. Top choice is Cardozo, then Brooklyn.
I was accepted into American on Friday, and should hear back from St. John's any day now.

I submitted to Fordham 11/12, and went complete shortly thereafter, and then was UR. Went complete again 12/7. I just wish I knew... I'll be sad if I'm WLed or rejected, but waiting is worse. :/

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby GentlemanJim » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:34 pm

Still in the game, amazingly. Been complete since early October. 11/18 status date.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby hipstermafia » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:37 pm

snapdragon wrote:Wow, they're WLing 170s? I'm in trouble for sure...

A couple of 170s were accepted with $ earlier in the cycle

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby aidez-moi » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:37 pm

zeke18 wrote:Has anyone received their waitlist letter via snail mail yet? I'm still waiting on mine (it's been a week now) and curious to see what information they provide about the waitlist process.


I have this question too. I was WL'ed but flew home for the holiday break before I could receive the letter. Boo

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby Gemini » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:14 pm

Still complete. I survive another day.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby DorianGray89 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:19 pm

Gemini Hopeful wrote:Still complete. I survive another day.


Me too... kind of frustrated.

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Re: Fordham 2011

Postby Woods, Elle » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:16 pm

Same. I wonder if they'll let us know soon? I wouldn't be as frustrated, except that it seems like a lot of you guys on this thread have heard back, even if it is WL-ed or rejected.




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