Knock wrote: QuailMan wrote:
Another former Cal undergrad here, guess I'll throw my 2 cents in.
I'd pretty much echo what everyone else said, the box south of campus is undergrad-ville with overpriced apartments where dishwashers, working washing machines, parking, garbage disposals are rare. I lived in a place in 2008 that had a pipe burst and it basically started raining in my apartment
They had to replace my carpet and the whole apartment smelled like balls for weeks. I tolerated it b/c, hey, I'm in college, I could deal. But I wouldn't want to put up with that if I had a family. I dont think southside is so dangerous, its more so that there’s a bunch of dumb kids. Guess what, if you walk around at night, by yourself, tipsy, while texting on your Iphone...your going to get jacked!
North of campus up the hill a little ways, past the co-ops, is really nice. It is a fairly expensive neighborhood but there are some good deals if you're willing to look. The only real problem is I'm not sure what school district they are in, I assume Berkeley High. Not sure how old your kids are, but I'm not sure you'd want to send them there. The school has great resources but has had a lot of problems recently, especially concerning the access to those resources by affluent (read: white) and non-affluent (read: black) students.
I hope you enjoy your visit! Personally, I think I'd lean toward moving away from Berkeley even though I had a great time, but I'd still love to get a call
Do you mind sharing why you're leaning moving away from Berkeley?
Most of all, I really want to take advantage of the opportunity to get a new experience in a new place. I grew up in California, lived in NorCal, SoCal, the valley and went to school in the Bay. I love it, but the way I see it, I have a chance to go live wherever I want, so why not take that chance if its just 3 years? I figure that I'll be able to go to a good enough school so that (even if it takes a few years after law school) if I really wanted to come back, I could.
On a Cal specific note, I think it would be nice to get out of the "Berkeley Bubble". The campus is so well set up, with so much to do near-by, that you never really have to leave. Heck, even my part-time job was right up the hill. You do hear a lot on these boards about how Berk isn't a crazy hippe place, and that’s true, but its also true that it is a very progressive place where everyone assumes that everyone else is left of center too. Don't get me wrong, I'm a pretty progressive dude, but I think being in that environment can make people lose perspective, its easy to not question your own worldview when everyone around you seems to agree with you. Which brings me back to my point about broadening my horizons (literally?).
Basically, Cal is a great place and anyone who goes there should take in everything about it, but do make a conscience effort to get out of the bubble every once in a while.