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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby unc0mm0n1 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:34 am

tipler4213 wrote:Anyone gotten a scholly offer yet?


yes. I got $100,000.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby marcellus » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:15 pm

Has everyone who will get to CR1 gotten there already - even last minute applicants? Is that the conventional wisdom?

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Flips88 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:55 pm

srvyorgeneral wrote:CR2s ready for the big week?

Yep. I expect we'll start hearing decisions Wednesday and into Friday

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby shatra » Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:55 pm

marcellus wrote:Has everyone who will get to CR1 gotten there already - even last minute applicants? Is that the conventional wisdom?


Apparently last year as of March 12 (just after CR2 ended), Berkeley was done making decisions. This was posted in the Berkeley 2010 thread on March 12 last year:

"From Berkeley's Twitter: We've completed the process and emailed all the decisions for first-year JD applicants!"

So I think that last batch of CR that went out on Feb. 14th was it.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby bhan87 » Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:56 pm

unc0mm0n1 wrote:
tipler4213 wrote:Anyone gotten a scholly offer yet?


yes. I got $100,000.


100k from Berk is truly legit considering how stingy they are with merit aid.

Are you going to Berk for sure?

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby WestOfTheRest » Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:59 pm

bhan87 wrote:
unc0mm0n1 wrote:
tipler4213 wrote:Anyone gotten a scholly offer yet?


yes. I got $100,000.


100k from Berk is truly legit considering how stingy they are with merit aid.

Are you going to Berk for sure?

Lol, 100k barely pays for one year of out-of-state tuition there. How can Berk even be competitive?

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby DreamShake » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:19 pm

CastleRock wrote:
bhan87 wrote:
unc0mm0n1 wrote:
tipler4213 wrote:Anyone gotten a scholly offer yet?


yes. I got $100,000.


100k from Berk is truly legit considering how stingy they are with merit aid.

Are you going to Berk for sure?

Lol, 100k barely pays for one year of out-of-state tuition there. How can Berk even be competitive?


Umm...OOS tuition=$52k. Instate=$44k. So he's basically getting free tuition for 2 years. High COL is what drives the total cost up--just like it does at Stanford, CCN, Penn, Northwestern, and GT. Cost of attendance is lower w/instate tuition at Berkeley than at all of those schools (plus Cornell & Duke) and only negligibly more than Virginia's.

Probably remains competitive in part because Berkeley is roughly 16,000x better to live in than any other T14 locale.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby r6_philly » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:22 pm

DreamShake wrote:
Umm...OOS tuition=$52k. Instate=$44k. So he's basically getting free tuition for 2 years. High COL is what drives the total cost up--just like it does at Stanford, CCN, Penn, Northwestern, and GT. Berkeley's cost of attendance is lower w/instate tuition than all of those schools (plus Cornell & Duke) and only negligibly more than Virginia's.


During the 2011-12 and 2012-13 academic years, the proposed nonresident fees will be $54,831 and $57,573 respectively.


http://www.law.berkeley.edu/6943.htm

While 1 year is an exaggeration, 100k may end up being half-tuition essentially depending on what 2013-14 will be.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby r6_philly » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:24 pm

DreamShake wrote:Probably remains competitive in part because Berkeley is roughly 16,000x better to live in than any other T14 locale.


As much as I enjoyed the Bay Area as a whole. City of Berkeley itself not so much, certainly not worth the extra money.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby DreamShake » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:33 pm

r6_philly wrote:
DreamShake wrote:
Umm...OOS tuition=$52k. Instate=$44k. So he's basically getting free tuition for 2 years. High COL is what drives the total cost up--just like it does at Stanford, CCN, Penn, Northwestern, and GT. Berkeley's cost of attendance is lower w/instate tuition than all of those schools (plus Cornell & Duke) and only negligibly more than Virginia's.


During the 2011-12 and 2012-13 academic years, the proposed nonresident fees will be $54,831 and $57,573 respectively.


http://www.law.berkeley.edu/6943.htm

While 1 year is an exaggeration, 100k may end up being half-tuition essentially depending on what 2013-14 will be.


Ouch. Point remains that $100k is still roughly 2 years' of tuition. $54 OOS (2011-12) + $51 IS (2012-13)=$105k.


r6_philly wrote:
DreamShake wrote:Probably remains competitive in part because Berkeley is roughly 16,000x better to live in than any other T14 locale.


As much as I enjoyed the Bay Area as a whole. City of Berkeley itself not so much, certainly not worth the extra money.

You're one person--many, many people would disagree with your feelings about Berkeley itself. I think the extra money is relatively small in comparison to overall COA at peer schools (yes, $10k is a lot of money, but the difference between $120k of debt and $130k of debt isn't huge when you take into account non-$ factors). Also, from what I've seen, Berkeley tends to give out more need-based money than some peer schools, further offsetting the debt differential for many students.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby unc0mm0n1 » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:36 pm

r6_philly wrote:
DreamShake wrote:Probably remains competitive in part because Berkeley is roughly 16,000x better to live in than any other T14 locale.


As much as I enjoyed the Bay Area as a whole. City of Berkeley itself not so much, certainly not worth the extra money.


Et tu brutus? Even r6 is showing the Berkeley hate. J/k its very much in play for me. With my gi bill (i was in the army for almost 5 yrs) Berkeley is free for me. Some of my scholarship may even be refundable. So if I go there ill at least get COA and I might leave law school with more in my pocket than I had coming in.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby r6_philly » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:44 pm

DreamShake wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
DreamShake wrote:Probably remains competitive in part because Berkeley is roughly 16,000x better to live in than any other T14 locale.


As much as I enjoyed the Bay Area as a whole. City of Berkeley itself not so much, certainly not worth the extra money.

You're one person--many, many people would disagree with your feelings about Berkeley itself. I think the extra money is relatively small in comparison to overall COA at peer schools (yes, $10k is a lot of money, but the difference between $120k of debt and $130k of debt isn't huge when you take into account non-$ factors). Also, from what I've seen, Berkeley tends to give out more need-based money than some peer schools, further offsetting the debt differential for many students.


All I am saying is your statement about a place to live is very absolute. There are many people who prefer other brands of living - this country is kind of large, and people come from different kind of places.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby r6_philly » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:45 pm

unc0mm0n1 wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
DreamShake wrote:Probably remains competitive in part because Berkeley is roughly 16,000x better to live in than any other T14 locale.


As much as I enjoyed the Bay Area as a whole. City of Berkeley itself not so much, certainly not worth the extra money.


Et tu brutus? Even r6 is showing the Berkeley hate. J/k its very much in play for me. With my gi bill (i was in the army for almost 5 yrs) Berkeley is free for me. Some of my scholarship may even be refundable. So if I go there ill at least get COA and I might leave law school with more in my pocket than I had coming in.


No hate, just trying to put everything everywhere in the same perspective. 8)

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby lfp » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:50 pm

Back to the CR2 anxiety: did anyone else hear anything today?

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby DreamShake » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:51 pm

r6_philly wrote:
DreamShake wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
DreamShake wrote:Probably remains competitive in part because Berkeley is roughly 16,000x better to live in than any other T14 locale.


As much as I enjoyed the Bay Area as a whole. City of Berkeley itself not so much, certainly not worth the extra money.

You're one person--many, many people would disagree with your feelings about Berkeley itself. I think the extra money is relatively small in comparison to overall COA at peer schools (yes, $10k is a lot of money, but the difference between $120k of debt and $130k of debt isn't huge when you take into account non-$ factors). Also, from what I've seen, Berkeley tends to give out more need-based money than some peer schools, further offsetting the debt differential for many students.


All I am saying is your statement about a place to live is very absolute. There are many people who prefer other brands of living - this country is kind of large, and people come from different kind of places.


No! If you don't think Berkeley is at least 16,000x better than all other T14 locales, you are dysfunctional!

lol nah, I get your point...I think on average, though, people would rank Berkeley/Bay Area at the top of the list. At least, people who don't want to walk around in muddy snow/sludge during the winter :P

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby bigredforlaw » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:14 pm

Rejected via email...good luck to everyone else

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby OutCold » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:17 pm

bigredforlaw wrote:Rejected via email...good luck to everyone else


CR2?

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby frijoles99 » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:33 pm

I visited the northeast for the first time and I discoverd that this area was a friggin frozen tundra it blizzarded twice in Boston the week I was there. I spent the 3 weeks freezing. 27 degrees farenheight was the warmest temperature there.

Frozen
yale
Harvard
nyu
columbia
upenn
georgetown
northwestern
umich
cornell
umich

Beautiful perfect weather
berkeley
stanford

OK weather
virginia
duke

The day I arrived in Los Angeles from Washington DC in early February I started laughing maniacally. People were staring at me. For once after 4 weeks I didn't have to wear 4 layers of hot clothing. How could anyone want to live in these frozen areas? Seriously I love being able to go out in a 75 degree sunny day in February.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby aesis » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:34 pm

frijoles99 wrote:
The day I arrived in Los Angeles from Washington DC in early February I started laughing maniacally. People were staring at me. For once after 4 weeks I didn't have to wear 4 layers of hot clothing. How could anyone want to live in these frozen areas? Seriously I love being able to go out in a 75 degree sunny day in February.


+1

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby WestOfTheRest » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:36 pm

frijoles99 wrote:I visited the northeast for the first time and I discoverd that this area was a friggin frozen tundra it blizzarded twice in Boston the week I was there. I spent the 3 weeks freezing. 27 degrees farenheight was the warmest temperature there.

Frozen
yale
Harvard
nyu
columbia
upenn
georgetown
northwestern
umich
cornell
umich

Beautiful perfect weather
berkeley
stanford

OK weather
virginia
duke

The day I arrived in Los Angeles from Washington DC in early February I started laughing maniacally. People were staring at me. For once after 4 weeks I didn't have to wear 4 layers of hot clothing. How could anyone want to live in these frozen areas? Seriously I love being able to go out in a 75 degree sunny day in February.

All I can say is you are a pussy. I love the winter. I love snowboarding, sledding, and going out and skating on a frozen lake. Honestly, I love the winter.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby aesis » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:38 pm

CastleRock wrote:All I can say is you are a pussy. I love the winter. I love snowboarding, sledding, and going out and skating on a frozen lake. Honestly, I love the winter.


You can do all those things here in CA by driving one or two hours depending on where you live.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby unc0mm0n1 » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:40 pm

CastleRock wrote:
frijoles99 wrote:I visited the northeast for the first time and I discoverd that this area was a friggin frozen tundra it blizzarded twice in Boston the week I was there. I spent the 3 weeks freezing. 27 degrees farenheight was the warmest temperature there.

Frozen
yale
Harvard
nyu
columbia
upenn
georgetown
northwestern
umich
cornell
umich

Beautiful perfect weather
berkeley
stanford

OK weather
virginia
duke

The day I arrived in Los Angeles from Washington DC in early February I started laughing maniacally. People were staring at me. For once after 4 weeks I didn't have to wear 4 layers of hot clothing. How could anyone want to live in these frozen areas? Seriously I love being able to go out in a 75 degree sunny day in February.

All I can say is you are a pussy. I love the winter. I love snowboarding, sledding, and going out and skating on a frozen lake. Honestly, I love the winter.


I'm from Chicago but I hate the winter, although it's not that bad. He must really think UM is really cold he listed them twice.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby WestOfTheRest » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:42 pm

aesis wrote:
CastleRock wrote:All I can say is you are a pussy. I love the winter. I love snowboarding, sledding, and going out and skating on a frozen lake. Honestly, I love the winter.


You can do all those things here in CA by driving one or two hours depending on where you live.

I do these things on a daily basis in the winter and I don't have to drive one or two hours. I'm fine with the cold. This Southern Californian view that cold=terrible is annoying. Well this holds for some people, it is not necessarily a dominant view. Many people are fine with colder winters.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby askyemcdonald » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:49 pm

Kwax wrote:
bigredforlaw wrote:Rejected via email...good luck to everyone else


CR2?


BUMP

Was this a CR2 rejection?

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby bigredforlaw » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:53 pm

Kwax wrote:
bigredforlaw wrote:Rejected via email...good luck to everyone else


CR2?

Nope, I was simply in review on 2/9 and never got to CR.




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