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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby ahduth » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:28 pm

artichoke wrote:Why is the Berkeley law website like the slowest thing in the world?


They have the internets in the UP? :lol:

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby hipstermafia » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:19 pm

happy berkeley admissions office is open time!

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby timmna » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:24 pm

hipstermafia wrote:happy berkeley admissions office is open time!


Maybe they will counteract all of the bad news yesterday with good news today?

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby lakerfanimal » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:33 pm

I hope we all get accepted. Please

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Excellence = a Habit » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:39 pm

lakerfanimal wrote:I hope we all get accepted. Please


Me toooooooooooo!

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Aggiegrad2011 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:45 pm

Goood news goooood news day! C'mon!

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby swimmergirl1303 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:56 pm

Excellence = a Habit wrote:
lakerfanimal wrote:I hope we all get accepted. Please


Me toooooooooooo!


+ 1 :D

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby lhlee » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:39 pm

I didn't stop by for a day..and there was so much chaos. I'm glad I did not get rejected, but I am barely hanging on (bad numbers). I delayed the inevitable by sending them new info. If I can't get in, I shall annoy them :).

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby LilMonsterAnnie » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:41 pm

BTW

In his "we don't love you enough ding letter" Dean Tom stated that they are filling 1 out of every 30 applicants for seats.
That puts my estimate at about 12,000 applicants IF they are only admitting 400 with the expectation of around 200 actually attending.
Hate to be the 2011 New Year Grinch, but those are sobering numbers. :shock:

Much luck to those of you still waiting!
:)

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Arbiter213 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:42 pm

Wait there was a wave of denials yesterday? Well glad I survived that I guess...

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby giddybiscuit » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:46 pm

How can they admit so many more than there are seats? Do THAT many people pass up Cal for another school?

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby r6_philly » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:48 pm

LilMonsterAnnie wrote:BTW

In his "we don't love you enough ding letter" Dean Tom stated that they are filling 1 out of every 30 applicants for seats.
That puts my estimate at about 12,000 applicants IF they are only admitting 400 with the expectation of around 200 actually attending.
Hate to be the 2011 New Year Grinch, but those are sobering numbers. :shock:

Much luck to those of you still waiting!
:)


The official LSAT data says 803/7960 (292 matrics). It can't be 1 out 30 :shock:

Minding quoting the exact wording? If there are more than 10000 applicants this year it will change my cycle outlook quite a bit.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby r6_philly » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:49 pm

giddybiscuit wrote:How can they admit so many more than there are seats? Do THAT many people pass up Cal for another school?


Most top applicants average many applications, so yield rate is 20-30% for non-HYS T14 schools.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Knock » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:49 pm

giddybiscuit wrote:How can they admit so many more than there are seats? Do THAT many people pass up Cal for another school?


Most schools outside of HYS are like that, and even Harvard has to admit ~800 people to fill ~500 seats.

LilMonsterAnnie wrote:BTW

In his "we don't love you enough ding letter" Dean Tom stated that they are filling 1 out of every 30 applicants for seats.
That puts my estimate at about 12,000 applicants IF they are only admitting 400 with the expectation of around 200 actually attending.
Hate to be the 2011 New Year Grinch, but those are sobering numbers. :shock:

Much luck to those of you still waiting!
:)
BTW

In his "we don't love you enough ding letter" Dean Tom stated that they are filling 1 out of every 30 applicants for seats.
That puts my estimate at about 12,000 applicants IF they are only admitting 400 with the expectation of around 200 actually attending.
Hate to be the 2011 New Year Grinch, but those are sobering numbers. :shock:

Much luck to those of you still waiting!
:)


Yeah, I feel like a lot of people don't realize that Berkeley Law is actually the 4th most selective law school, behind HYS. Probably because their numbers/holistic attitude allow a wider number of applicants to apply because they have a chance (or they think they have a chance) of being competitive.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby r6_philly » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:56 pm

Knock wrote:Yeah, I feel like a lot of people don't realize that Berkeley Law is actually the 4th most selective law school, behind HYS. Probably because their numbers/holistic attitude allow a wider number of applicants to apply because they have a chance (or they think they have a chance) of being competitive.


They told me 3rd after Y and S.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby LilMonsterAnnie » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:02 pm

The official LSAT data says 803/7960 (292 matrics). It can't be 1 out 30
Minding quoting the exact wording? If there are more than 10000 applicants this year it will change my cycle outlook quite a bit.



Just for you R6 - 'cause I am just that kind of gal. I had to access my folder remote from work and found it.
He was very kind and encouraged me to consider transferring after my first year. Not sure if he sends this to everyone, but it definately took the "sting" away.



FROM DEAN TOM: Our decision was not easy. The majority of our applicants are well-qualified to pursue the study of law, and indeed many of them are qualified to pursue that study at Berkeley. But with more than thirty applicants competing for each place in the class, our choices must be highly selective. Although our review process is thorough, it is also human, fallible, and in part subjective.

You are to be congratulated on your accomplishments, and I hope that you will be admitted at other law schools. If Berkeley Law remains your first choice you may wish to consider applying to transfer at the end of your first year at another ABA-approved law school. Transfer applicants are evaluated primarily on their first-year performance, and we offer advanced standing admission to 40-45 students annually from an applicant pool of approximately 250-300 candidates.

I am sorry that this letter must convey disappointing news. We wish you all the best in your applications to other law schools and in your career. Thank you very much for your interest in Berkeley Law and for entrusting us with your application.



As I said earlier, good luck to everyone still waiting. If you have been accepted, just rememember, you were selected from over 12k applicants (If my math is correct - which I believe it is)

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Knock » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:03 pm

r6_philly wrote:
Knock wrote:Yeah, I feel like a lot of people don't realize that Berkeley Law is actually the 4th most selective law school, behind HYS. Probably because their numbers/holistic attitude allow a wider number of applicants to apply because they have a chance (or they think they have a chance) of being competitive.


They told me 3rd after Y and S.


Hmm, can someone look up the current data?

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Sinra » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:06 pm

LilMonsterAnnie wrote:
The official LSAT data says 803/7960 (292 matrics). It can't be 1 out 30
Minding quoting the exact wording? If there are more than 10000 applicants this year it will change my cycle outlook quite a bit.



Just for you R6 - 'cause I am just that kind of gal. I had to access my folder remote from work and found it.
He was very kind and encouraged me to consider transferring after my first year. Not sure if he sends this to everyone, but it definately took the "sting" away.



FROM DEAN TOM: Our decision was not easy. The majority of our applicants are well-qualified to pursue the study of law, and indeed many of them are qualified to pursue that study at Berkeley. But with more than thirty applicants competing for each place in the class, our choices must be highly selective. Although our review process is thorough, it is also human, fallible, and in part subjective.

You are to be congratulated on your accomplishments, and I hope that you will be admitted at other law schools. If Berkeley Law remains your first choice you may wish to consider applying to transfer at the end of your first year at another ABA-approved law school. Transfer applicants are evaluated primarily on their first-year performance, and we offer advanced standing admission to 40-45 students annually from an applicant pool of approximately 250-300 candidates.

I am sorry that this letter must convey disappointing news. We wish you all the best in your applications to other law schools and in your career. Thank you very much for your interest in Berkeley Law and for entrusting us with your application.



As I said earlier, good luck to everyone still waiting. If you have been accepted, just rememember, you were selected from over 12k applicants (If my math is correct - which I believe it is)


Seriously, though? How NICE is Dean Tom? The whole way that Berkeley communicates with people makes me love them. Sorry though either way. That stinks. :cry:
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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby smokeylarue » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:11 pm

If they admit a class of 300, his 1 out of 30 statement means there are probably 9000 applicants

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Knock » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:12 pm

Knock wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
Knock wrote:Yeah, I feel like a lot of people don't realize that Berkeley Law is actually the 4th most selective law school, behind HYS. Probably because their numbers/holistic attitude allow a wider number of applicants to apply because they have a chance (or they think they have a chance) of being competitive.


They told me 3rd after Y and S.


Hmm, can someone look up the current data?


Berkeley Law:
http://officialguide.lsac.org/Release/S ... BA4833.pdf

803/7960 = 10.09% acceptance rate

Harvard Law:
http://officialguide.lsac.org/Release/S ... BA3457.pdf

833/7391 = 11.27% acceptance rate

Touche, Boalt.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Knock » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:14 pm

smokeylarue wrote:If they admit a class of 300, his 1 out of 30 statement means there are probably 9000 applicants


Well, if there are 200 seats, and 7000 applicants, then that's over 1 in 30, but I don't think it was meant to be taken exactly like that. Rather just as a statement that it's very competitive.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby r6_philly » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:21 pm

Knock wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
Knock wrote:Yeah, I feel like a lot of people don't realize that Berkeley Law is actually the 4th most selective law school, behind HYS. Probably because their numbers/holistic attitude allow a wider number of applicants to apply because they have a chance (or they think they have a chance) of being competitive.


They told me 3rd after Y and S.


Hmm, can someone look up the current data?


H: 833/7391 (559) - 11.27% Acceptance/67.1% Yield
Y: 270/3363 (214) - 8.03%/79.26%
S: 373/4082 (180) - 9.14%/48.26%
C: 1235/8505 (400) - 14.52%/32.39%
B: 803/7960 (292) - 10.09%/36.36%

ETA: Boalt has higher yield than Columbia. Also surprised at how many people don't apply to Y/S.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Knock » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:23 pm

r6_philly wrote:
Knock wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
Knock wrote:Yeah, I feel like a lot of people don't realize that Berkeley Law is actually the 4th most selective law school, behind HYS. Probably because their numbers/holistic attitude allow a wider number of applicants to apply because they have a chance (or they think they have a chance) of being competitive.


They told me 3rd after Y and S.


Hmm, can someone look up the current data?


H: 833/7391 (559) - 11.27% Acceptance/67.1% Yield
Y: 270/3363 (214) - 8.03%/79.26%
S: 373/4082 (180) - 9.14%/48.26%
C: 1235/8505 (400) - 14.52%/32.39%
B: 803/7960 (292) - 10.09%/36.36%

ETA: Boalt has higher yield than Columbia. Also surprised at how many people don't apply to Y/S.


Thanks Philly!

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby r6_philly » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:37 pm

LilMonsterAnnie wrote:Just for you R6 - 'cause I am just that kind of gal. I had to access my folder remote from work and found it.
He was very kind and encouraged me to consider transferring after my first year. Not sure if he sends this to everyone, but it definately took the "sting" away.


Thank you! Best of luck with the rest of the cycle! Where are you in and where are you still waiting to hear from?

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby GinaTheresa » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:40 pm

What's the best way you've found to research neighborhoods in distant cities? I'm looking for a relatively cheap apartment in the Berkeley area, and I'm willing to commute on BART - but I'm not sure where to start looking.




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