Berkeley 2011 applicants

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NZA
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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby NZA » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:20 pm

leeronalda wrote:Anyone else spamming the refresh button on their emails right now with the hope of this being a time of day for them to be sending out all their emails? Lol


Lol, if you're that desperate to see it, I can forward mine to you, should you wish.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby logistikon » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:25 pm

none of you received the fafsa email, only i did.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby whathojeeves » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:27 pm

NZA wrote:
leeronalda wrote:Anyone else spamming the refresh button on their emails right now with the hope of this being a time of day for them to be sending out all their emails? Lol


Lol, if you're that desperate to see it, I can forward mine to you, should you wish.


Oh, I got it, I was just hoping (and I assume leeronalda was too?) that this was their "email hour" including WELCOME TO THE CLASS OF 2014 ohpleasepleaseplease. Sadly, despite refreshing repeatedly, I've had no joy beyond the aforementioned sickening reminder that I need to get my FAFSA stuff in order. Sigh.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby glitched » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:28 pm

Lol yea that's what I meant..

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby NZA » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:29 pm

whathojeeves wrote:
NZA wrote:
leeronalda wrote:Anyone else spamming the refresh button on their emails right now with the hope of this being a time of day for them to be sending out all their emails? Lol


Lol, if you're that desperate to see it, I can forward mine to you, should you wish.


Oh, I got it, I was just hoping (and I assume leeronalda was too?) that this was their "email hour" including WELCOME TO THE CLASS OF 2014 ohpleasepleaseplease. Sadly, despite refreshing repeatedly, I've had no joy beyond the aforementioned sickening reminder that I need to get my FAFSA stuff in order. Sigh.


Ohh...lol, sorry, misinterpreted. Yeah, I do that too. :( Problem is, being on the West Coast, I don't even bother after 1PM since I assume offices in the EST are closed.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Knock » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:37 pm

Just thought this was interesting, and wanted to share. Old data (class of 2012 I think).

Law Schools Ranked by Median LSAT and GPA (class size also listed)

Top 14
1. Yale University 3.82 3.90 3.96 170 173 176 214
2. Harvard University 3.76 3.89 3.96 171 173 176 559
4. Columbia University 3.60 3.72 3.81 170 172 175 397
5. University of Chicago 3.63 3.76 3.84 169 171 173 191
6. New York University 3.57 3.72 3.86 169 171 173 450
3. Stanford University 3.77 3.88 3.97 167 170 172 170
10. University of Virginia 3.54 3.85 3.92 165 170 171 368
7. University of Pennsylvania 3.57 3.82 3.90 166 170 171 255
11. Northwestern University 3.40 3.72 3.81 166 170 172 271
14. Georgetown University 3.42 3.68 3.81 168 170 172 463
11. Duke University 3.60 3.76 3.84 167 169 171 228
9. University of Michigan 3.55 3.70 3.84 167 169 170 371
7. University of California – Berkeley 3.68 3.83 3.95 165 168 170 292
13. Cornell University 3.48 3.63 3.80 165 167 168 205


Having a fairly small class size is a big plus for me, so I decided to order it from smallest to biggest class sizes:
1. Stanford University 170
2. University of Chicago 191
3. Cornell University 205
4. Yale University 214
5. Duke University 228
6. University of Pennsylvania 255
7. Northwestern University 271
8. University of California – Berkeley 292
9. University of Virginia 368
10. University of Michigan 371
11. Columbia University 397
12. New York University 450
13. Georgetown University 463
14. Harvard University 559

So it looks like B is right around the middle of the T-14 in terms of class size.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby r6_philly » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:41 pm

I like small class too. That's something that bothers me about HCNVG. I really like the 40% faculty increase - that really means a lot to me.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Knock » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:43 pm

r6_philly wrote:I like small class too. That's something that bothers me about HCNVG. I really like the 40% faculty increase - that really means a lot to me.


Me too. ~292 doesn't seem too bad.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby r6_philly » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:46 pm

Knock wrote:
r6_philly wrote:I like small class too. That's something that bothers me about HCNVG. I really like the 40% faculty increase - that really means a lot to me.


Me too. ~292 doesn't seem too bad.


4 or 5 sections? I am more interested in the classes after 1L. So when I visit schools that's what I will focus on. I plan to do a lot of small classes, clinics and classes at other schools. I enjoy my 15-person classes 8)

It's kind of funny we have 5 months to think about this without really any real feel for the school.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby sarahlawg » Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:08 pm

My app was sent 11/21, complete and UR 11/22, and no movement since... I see people on LSN with similar numbers and dates as me who already have their decision. am I just destined to wait longer or should I email/call them?

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby artichoke » Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:32 pm

Jk, just got the email. Glad I checked here before or I would have been unnecessarily excited.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby pcthenls » Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:39 pm

I have this feelings someone in the admissions office presses send on that fafsa email and just laughs as we all collectively freak out. The power they hold is sort of hilarious.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Ghost » Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:53 pm

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Teflon1974 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:12 pm

NZA wrote:
Gotti wrote:
Lol fafsae.



:mrgreen:

Glad someone caught that.

Good luck now that you're UR!


Isn't it FAFSUM > FAFSA?

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby lmi » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:14 pm

Teflon1974 wrote:
NZA wrote:
Gotti wrote:
Lol fafsae.



:mrgreen:

Glad someone caught that.

Good luck now that you're UR!


Isn't it FAFSUM > FAFSA?


nevermind.
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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby cmk » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:27 pm

This may not be the forum for this topic but something in that email today got me thinking: Can someone explain the deal with filling out parent's info for financial aid? My parents are not going to be financially contributing at all and just because I am under 30 I am required to provide their info? If I put their info I will obviously be less eligible for need-based aid, which is what I need since I will be paying for this all myself. It doesn't make any sense to me that it is assumed that just because you are a certain age your parents are going to being paying the bills.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby NZA » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:28 pm

cmk wrote:This may not be the forum for this topic but something in that email today got me thinking: Can someone explain the deal with filling out parent's info for financial aid? My parents are not going to be financially contributing at all and just because I am under 30 I am required to provide their info? If I put their info I will obviously be less eligible for need-based aid, which is what I need since I will be paying for this all myself. It doesn't make any sense to me that it is assumed that just because you are a certain age your parents are going to being paying the bills.


You're required to if they claimed you as a dependent, I think.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby T6Hopeful » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:40 pm

Knock wrote:Just thought this was interesting, and wanted to share. Old data (class of 2012 I think).

Law Schools Ranked by Median LSAT and GPA (class size also listed)

Top 14
1. Yale University 3.82 3.90 3.96 170 173 176 214
2. Harvard University 3.76 3.89 3.96 171 173 176 559
4. Columbia University 3.60 3.72 3.81 170 172 175 397
5. University of Chicago 3.63 3.76 3.84 169 171 173 191
6. New York University 3.57 3.72 3.86 169 171 173 450
3. Stanford University 3.77 3.88 3.97 167 170 172 170
10. University of Virginia 3.54 3.85 3.92 165 170 171 368
7. University of Pennsylvania 3.57 3.82 3.90 166 170 171 255
11. Northwestern University 3.40 3.72 3.81 166 170 172 271
14. Georgetown University 3.42 3.68 3.81 168 170 172 463
11. Duke University 3.60 3.76 3.84 167 169 171 228
9. University of Michigan 3.55 3.70 3.84 167 169 170 371
7. University of California – Berkeley 3.68 3.83 3.95 165 168 170 292
13. Cornell University 3.48 3.63 3.80 165 167 168 205


Having a fairly small class size is a big plus for me, so I decided to order it from smallest to biggest class sizes:
1. Stanford University 170
2. University of Chicago 191
3. Cornell University 205
4. Yale University 214
5. Duke University 228
6. University of Pennsylvania 255
7. Northwestern University 271
8. University of California – Berkeley 292
9. University of Virginia 368
10. University of Michigan 371
11. Columbia University 397
12. New York University 450
13. Georgetown University 463
14. Harvard University 559

So it looks like B is right around the middle of the T-14 in terms of class size.


I don't think it makes any difference, but isn't Georgetown bumping up its FT class size and decreasing its PT class size? I only point this out because "463" could be misleading if next year it could be over 500.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Rotor » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:45 pm

r6_philly wrote:4 or 5 sections? I am more interested in the classes after 1L. So when I visit schools that's what I will focus on. I plan to do a lot of small classes, clinics and classes at other schools. I enjoy my 15-person classes 8)


1L class is divided into 9 mods (small section class) and 3 mods in a supermod for the other 1L classes. LRW is 12 sections (and made up of roughly equal numbers from each mod within the supermod).

Also remember, Boalt allows you to take an elective (or two) in 1L spring.

To the poster concerned about class size and course diversity-- I doubt you'll find that a problem here. Not only do we have the varied offerings by the (still growing) faculty, we also get some great once in a lifetime opportunities from some adjuncts. E.g.: Next semester, Chief Judge Vaughan Walker (N.D. Cal.) of overturning Prop-8 fame is teaching a strategic decision-making in litigation class! (still ticked it conflicted with two other classes I REALLY wanted to take)

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby RTFM » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:48 pm

cmk wrote:This may not be the forum for this topic but something in that email today got me thinking: Can someone explain the deal with filling out parent's info for financial aid? My parents are not going to be financially contributing at all and just because I am under 30 I am required to provide their info? If I put their info I will obviously be less eligible for need-based aid, which is what I need since I will be paying for this all myself. It doesn't make any sense to me that it is assumed that just because you are a certain age your parents are going to being paying the bills.


Apparently law school is goofy when it comes to FAFSA. I'm really not totally sure how it works, but I've heard that depending on how far out of undergraduate you are, they calculate a % of your parents income whether they will be contributing to your tuition or not. If you're right out of undergrad it's 100%, 2 years our it's 80%, etc. I've heard lots of complaints from current law schools about this.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Excellence = a Habit » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:01 am

Berkeley's email got me thinking... are FAFSA applications a big deal in terms of time and effort involved? Is it comparable to the law school application process itself? I haven't done it since I was applying for undergrad, and then it was more of my parents' thing, bless their hearts. I am not excited about the prospect of more paperwork (though of course I AM excited about the project of financial aid, so I will suck it up).

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby NZA » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:03 am

Excellence = a Habit wrote:Berkeley's email got me thinking... are FAFSA applications a big deal in terms of time and effort involved? Is it comparable to the law school application process itself? I haven't done it since I was applying for undergrad, and then it was more of my parents' thing, bless their hearts. I am not excited about the prospect of more paperwork (though of course I AM excited about the project of financial aid, so I will suck it up).


It's simple as long as you have your parents' appropriate tax forms, as well as yours.

You pretty much just enter the info from the W-2s (or 1099s), plus any other taxes your parents may have filed.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Excellence = a Habit » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:15 am

NZA wrote:
Excellence = a Habit wrote:Berkeley's email got me thinking... are FAFSA applications a big deal in terms of time and effort involved? Is it comparable to the law school application process itself? I haven't done it since I was applying for undergrad, and then it was more of my parents' thing, bless their hearts. I am not excited about the prospect of more paperwork (though of course I AM excited about the project of financial aid, so I will suck it up).


It's simple as long as you have your parents' appropriate tax forms, as well as yours.

You pretty much just enter the info from the W-2s (or 1099s), plus any other taxes your parents may have filed.


Thank you! Knowing them, it'll take them two months to get their shit together, so I'll start bugging them now.

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Knock » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:17 am

Excellence = a Habit wrote:
NZA wrote:
Excellence = a Habit wrote:Berkeley's email got me thinking... are FAFSA applications a big deal in terms of time and effort involved? Is it comparable to the law school application process itself? I haven't done it since I was applying for undergrad, and then it was more of my parents' thing, bless their hearts. I am not excited about the prospect of more paperwork (though of course I AM excited about the project of financial aid, so I will suck it up).


It's simple as long as you have your parents' appropriate tax forms, as well as yours.

You pretty much just enter the info from the W-2s (or 1099s), plus any other taxes your parents may have filed.


Thank you! Knowing them, it'll take them two months to get their shit together, so I'll start bugging them now.


Good call, since you're getting into B for sure!

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Re: Berkeley 2011 applicants

Postby Excellence = a Habit » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:19 am

Knock wrote:
Excellence = a Habit wrote:
NZA wrote:
Excellence = a Habit wrote:Berkeley's email got me thinking... are FAFSA applications a big deal in terms of time and effort involved? Is it comparable to the law school application process itself? I haven't done it since I was applying for undergrad, and then it was more of my parents' thing, bless their hearts. I am not excited about the prospect of more paperwork (though of course I AM excited about the project of financial aid, so I will suck it up).


It's simple as long as you have your parents' appropriate tax forms, as well as yours.

You pretty much just enter the info from the W-2s (or 1099s), plus any other taxes your parents may have filed.


Thank you! Knowing them, it'll take them two months to get their shit together, so I'll start bugging them now.


Good call, since you're getting into B for sure!


You are so good at that! :D




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