UCLA? 2011

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby champsound » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:54 am

sarahlawg wrote:
vegenator wrote:
mikeydan5 wrote:I am also posting this to the admitted thread:

I was admitted to UCLA in early January, and I didn't receive a scholarship. I got admitted to Texas recently and received an in-state tuition waver and $9500/yr. Since they are tied in the rankings, I wrote Dean Schwartz to see if UCLA could offer me a scholarship. Has anyone had any luck negotiating for scholarships so far?


I'm in the same boat. Admitted mid January with no word of scholarships over the phone, however, their acceptance email seemed to encourage negotiations. I got the same amount at Texas, 45k at Mich and hefty sums at WUSTL and UIUC I'm going to throw in to the negotiation ring.

I emailed Dean Schwartz over the weekend to see whether I am being considered for scholarships (and mentioned that I had others I was considering). He emailed me back saying that I should forward the other offers on to him and then he would forward those onto the scholarship committee.

Hoping I didn't jump the gun here, but I'd like to start negotiating somewhere. Under the right circum$tance$ UCLA could be pretty attractive :mrgreen:

On an unrelated note (and I'm way to lazy to go through and catch up on all pages in this thread I've skipped, so I appologize if this has been discussed before), but...
During my acceptance phone call, despite not being offered scholarships and having no indication of financial need on my application, Dean Schwartz offered financial assistance for attending one of the admitted students receptions. I followed through on that, and they're offering to pay for the airfare. Sweet deal if you ask me, so if anyone else needs help/was offered help definitely send an email, they seemed really willing to help out there.

And CONGRATS to all the recent admits! :D


The grant email says, "We very much hope you find this offer competitive with others you have received. Please let us know." So it sounds to me like they're very open to negotiation. good luck!

They are definitely open to negotiation. On the phone, Schwartz basically said to me "Let us know about other school's offers that you are considering so we can match them."

This comes at the same thing as $96 million budget cuts to UCLA as a whole, not sure how it will affect the law school.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby helloperson » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:49 pm

champsound wrote:This comes at the same thing as $96 million budget cuts to UCLA as a whole, not sure how it will affect the law school.


I believe the law school is a bit better insulated from the menace that is the UC administration, but that's just a guess.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby awilson11 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:52 pm

helloperson wrote:
champsound wrote:This comes at the same thing as $96 million budget cuts to UCLA as a whole, not sure how it will affect the law school.


I believe the law school is a bit better insulated from the menace that is the UC administration, but that's just a guess.

The law school is basically the only part of the school that doesn't operate at a loss without government funds (like most law schools, they overcharge like crazy, even for in state).

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby helloperson » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:03 pm

awilson11 wrote:
helloperson wrote:
champsound wrote:This comes at the same thing as $96 million budget cuts to UCLA as a whole, not sure how it will affect the law school.


I believe the law school is a bit better insulated from the menace that is the UC administration, but that's just a guess.

The law school is basically the only part of the school that doesn't operate at a loss without government funds (like most law schools, they overcharge like crazy, even for in state).


This is partially correct. Engineering brings in crazy money in research grants, which UCLA administration takes something like 10-20% off the top for overhead on every single one. The real money vampires are the humanities, which are subsidized by the money that engineering and law bring in.

Most of the research grant money comes from either government sources like DARPA or from VC.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby darkgreenfruit » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:06 pm

What if I haven't heard anything yet? It seems like my decisions are all coming late and none of them are great.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby awilson11 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:09 pm

helloperson wrote:
awilson11 wrote:
helloperson wrote:
champsound wrote:This comes at the same thing as $96 million budget cuts to UCLA as a whole, not sure how it will affect the law school.


I believe the law school is a bit better insulated from the menace that is the UC administration, but that's just a guess.

The law school is basically the only part of the school that doesn't operate at a loss without government funds (like most law schools, they overcharge like crazy, even for in state).


This is partially correct. Engineering brings in crazy money in research grants, which UCLA administration takes something like 10-20% off the top for overhead on every single one. The real money vampires are the humanities, which are subsidized by the money that engineering and law bring in.

Most of the research grant money comes from either government sources like DARPA or from VC.

I left out engineering since its money doesn't come from tuition of students. But you are right, law basically funds the undergrad programs that future law students come out of.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby Gotti » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:16 pm

UCLA's lack of communication combined with its lack of a status checker is annoying me.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby agora139 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:17 pm

Gotti wrote:UCLA's lack of communication combined with its lack of a status checker is annoying me.

+1, grrrr :x

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby Bildungsroman » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:15 pm

Heads up, just got a call from Dean Schwartz about an hour ago. Called him back - in with $60k

Edit: Submitted late November. Numbers in profile. Sure UCLA could identify me from my last two posts in this thread but who really care you know?
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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby UA7789 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:17 pm

Gotti wrote:UCLA's lack of communication combined with its lack of a status checker is annoying me.


Agreed... I still haven't gone complete and I applied a month ago...

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby akili » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:20 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:Heads up, just got a call from Dean Schwartz about an hour ago. Called him back - in with $60k


Congrats!! That's awesome.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby Ratchet Jackson » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:25 pm

UCLA seems to call max 2 people per day.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby lucylove » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:55 pm

nothing today?

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby LegallyBrunette3 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:28 am

lucylove wrote:nothing today?


Guess not....here's to hoping for good news today!

Edit: As of today, UCLA is the ONLY school I am waiting to hear from, so I sent a second LOCI. It has been a month since I sent my last one. It included a job update (not a change of jobs though)

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby LegallyBrunette3 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:54 pm

What are other people's date that they submitted/went complete? I am 10/30 over here.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby Arbiter213 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:40 pm

They're offering pretty nice need based aid, but I'd still love merit based... Can I leverage need based between schools? I feel weird at this point lol.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby HopefulFish » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:33 pm

LegallyBrunette3 wrote:What are other people's date that they submitted/went complete? I am 10/30 over here.


10/15, no word yet.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby registeredtosay » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:36 pm

HopefulFish wrote:
LegallyBrunette3 wrote:What are other people's date that they submitted/went complete? I am 10/30 over here.


10/15, no word yet.


10/18. Dean Schwartz call meeeeeeee

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby mah » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:40 pm

HopefulFish wrote:
LegallyBrunette3 wrote:What are other people's date that they submitted/went complete? I am 10/30 over here.


10/15, no word yet.


Complete since 10/7, no word.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby LegallyBrunette3 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:50 pm

mah wrote:
HopefulFish wrote:
LegallyBrunette3 wrote:What are other people's date that they submitted/went complete? I am 10/30 over here.


10/15, no word yet.


Complete since 10/7, no word.


Damn...and I thought I was waiting a long time! Good luck to you all. And keep us updated! The UCLA thread keeps going too far back in pages for my liking!

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby zjs4 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:02 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:Heads up, just got a call from Dean Schwartz about an hour ago. Called him back - in with $60k

Edit: Submitted late November. Numbers in profile. Sure UCLA could identify me from my last two posts in this thread but who really care you know?


Got the call same day as you, got money too.

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby ht2988 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:29 am

Ok, so I submitted back in November with below median stats - but with very strong softs, NT/URM status, and a demonstrated interest in their CRS program. Since I hadn't received any word from them I submitted an LOCI two weeks ago that further addressed my interests in their CRS, and possible research projects I'd like to work on. The Dean and a prof from that program emailed me and asked me to read over some info and to schedule a time to call back next week and discuss my interests in depth. I don't want to get too excited about this - is it just protocol for them to follow up on applicant's research interests and questions regarding specific programs? Or, is this an interview, and therefore a sign that they are interested in me? I ask because I'm not a qualified applicant (in terms of numerical measures) and I don't want to start getting unrealistically hopeful. I know UCLA is one of the toughest programs to get into. Thoughts?

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby LegallyBrunette3 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:38 am

I would lean toward it being somewhat more of an interview. I do not think that is a standard procedure from what I have grasped via this thread. I would definitely be prepared to talk in depth about what you want to do/accomplish in the program and also be well-versed on the program and its history. UCLA is great because they are not simply about the numbers, so even though you might consider it a hindrance, UCLA may be more interested in everything else you have to offer. Good luck and keep us posted!

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby ht2988 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:24 pm

LegallyBrunette3 wrote:I would lean toward it being somewhat more of an interview. I do not think that is a standard procedure from what I have grasped via this thread. I would definitely be prepared to talk in depth about what you want to do/accomplish in the program and also be well-versed on the program and its history. UCLA is great because they are not simply about the numbers, so even though you might consider it a hindrance, UCLA may be more interested in everything else you have to offer. Good luck and keep us posted!


Thanks for this - I hope this goes well. I do have a lot to say - just hoping my research interests fit into whatever paradigms they're using. And I hope I don't come off as a tool ;)

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Re: UCLA? 2011

Postby cassidylane » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:44 pm

Hey guys,

Sorry to ask a question that I'm sure has been asked before, but is UCLA's merit scholarship offer supposed to come with your initial acceptance packet? As in, if its not there, does that mean you are not going to be offered any merit scholarships?

Thanks! And congrats/good luck to those still waiting!




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