Columbia 2011! Forum

[arism87]

Sorry, I was referring to their recent blog posted in which they said "Please note that this year we are exploring new options to contribute to a greener planet and will be sending many decisions by email." Of course, they then listed "Admit" as one of the categories under this, and we all know that Admits still receive physical VCEs. I assumed that all others would receive decisions via email, but this may be wrong.

That's what I wanted to know; thanks!

Sure! Hopefully in the years to come they'll adopt e-mail for everything so us poor applicants won't have to ponder about snowstorms and VCEs.

Seriously! They could've gone ahead and sent me the hold to spare my dad some serious mailbox checking! lol

[r6_philly]

OMG just caught up on the 20 PAGES!!! since I had to leave 3 hours ago. I can't believe the holds continued on for another hour!!! I'm also sitting at no hold/no VCE, but I don't have solid numbers by any means. For myself personally (and thus not for the whole forgotten group), I am terrified by the fact that I didn't get held. I'm hesitant to consider myself a part of the forgotten group until tomorrow, which I'm guessing may be when they start the reserve/ding emails. I'm officially enjoying what will probably be the last night I can hope to get into Columbia Law. But I still think some of you non-holds with higher numbers should keep the hope alive!

Um we are fine.

[mel2010]

Can a hold even be a mistake? It's by definition a lack of a decision, it's not like they can't admit people tomorrow.

Not sending a VCE, now that's a mistake, lol

imo, having a hold that says you'll get a decision no later than 4/22 might as well be a waitlist, so I just don't understand why they even bothered. I was personally being a bit sarcastic with my post and was half expecting someone to post the NYU no precedent lolcats, but it didn't happen.
I'm resigned to writing Columbia off.

after I write and send them my LOCI

A hold means they're still currently considering you, and you'll know by the end of April. Waitlists, which they'll probably start sending out soon to people like me in the unknown category, will mean that you are out of contention until May, at which point (if they still have spots to fill, doesn't seem likely), they will pick some from the waitlist.

[sarahlawg]

Can a hold even be a mistake? It's by definition a lack of a decision, it's not like they can't admit people tomorrow.

Not sending a VCE, now that's a mistake, lol

imo, having a hold that says you'll get a decision no later than 4/22 might as well be a waitlist, so I just don't understand why they even bothered. I was personally being a bit sarcastic with my post and was half expecting someone to post the NYU no precedent lolcats, but it didn't happen.
I'm resigned to writing Columbia off.

after I write and send them my LOCI

A hold means they're still currently considering you, and you'll know by the end of April. Waitlists, which they'll probably start sending out soon to people like me in the unknown category, will mean that you are out of contention until May, at which point (if they still have spots to fill, doesn't seem likely), they will pick some from the waitlist.

the inevitability of a wl/reject makes the two barely distinguishable to me.
but I'm being negative because I've had a bad night in several ways.
/pessimism.

[akikaze]

Did anyone get flat-out rejected today? Or were all those who received a letter just held and waitlisted?

[jd2014!]

Did anyone get flat-out rejected today? Or were all those who received a letter just held and waitlisted?

No waitlists have gone out yet. Just holds. Holds are not the same as WL. At COlumbia, the Wl is called "reserve."

[ahduth]

OMG just caught up on the 20 PAGES!!! since I had to leave 3 hours ago. I can't believe the holds continued on for another hour!!! I'm also sitting at no hold/no VCE, but I don't have solid numbers by any means. For myself personally (and thus not for the whole forgotten group), I am terrified by the fact that I didn't get held. I'm hesitant to consider myself a part of the forgotten group until tomorrow, which I'm guessing may be when they start the reserve/ding emails. I'm officially enjoying what will probably be the last night I can hope to get into Columbia Law. But I still think some of you non-holds with higher numbers should keep the hope alive!

Um we are fine.

Maybe you are. These Ivy League schools don't seem to want to acknowledge my applications. Can I still apply to Penn? Maybe they can blow me off too.

But... yeah. Technical error seems kind of unlikely, because I'd think they'd have immediately followed it up with a retraction? I think someone just didn't stop to consider whether it was lame to declare a huge swathe of their applicant pool second class citizens. The price of prestige.

[bdubs]

Did anyone get flat-out rejected today? Or were all those who received a letter just held and waitlisted?

I don't think I saw any "reserve"s reported... did anyone actually report a reserve e-mail?

[law_monkey]

OMG just caught up on the 20 PAGES!!! since I had to leave 3 hours ago. I can't believe the holds continued on for another hour!!! I'm also sitting at no hold/no VCE, but I don't have solid numbers by any means. For myself personally (and thus not for the whole forgotten group), I am terrified by the fact that I didn't get held. I'm hesitant to consider myself a part of the forgotten group until tomorrow, which I'm guessing may be when they start the reserve/ding emails. I'm officially enjoying what will probably be the last night I can hope to get into Columbia Law. But I still think some of you non-holds with higher numbers should keep the hope alive!

Um we are fine.

Youuuuu are fine. Your numbers are way more solid than mine. That's why I don't think all the non-holds are getting the same decisions. I think Knock said earlier that it means the VCE is already in the mail, or rejections will be coming later. Rather than it being either/or I think both are likely true depending on the applicant. Either way I would feel a lot better if I'd been held at this point.

[Confused7]

Did anyone get flat-out rejected today? Or were all those who received a letter just held and waitlisted?

I don't think I saw any "reserve"s reported... did anyone actually report a reserve e-mail?

Those probably come out later in the cycle, along with Reserves. Does anyone know if CLS sent out "holds" this early last year?

[akikaze]

Did anyone get flat-out rejected today? Or were all those who received a letter just held and waitlisted?

No waitlists have gone out yet. Just holds. Holds are not the same as WL. At COlumbia, the Wl is called "reserve."

Sorry, I meant "held or waitlisted/on reserve" -- and I don't know, I think earlier there were some people who DID get put on reserve and then others are reporting that on LSN (though they may be misinterpreting their hold letters).

Any confirmation appreciated.

[r6_philly]

Maybe you are. These Ivy League schools don't seem to want to acknowledge my applications. Can I still apply to Penn? Maybe they can blow me off too.

But... yeah. Technical error seems kind of unlikely, because I'd think they'd have immediately followed it up with a retraction? I think someone just didn't stop to consider whether it was lame to declare a huge swathe of their applicant pool second class citizens. The price of prestige.

If you apply to Penn now, I think they'd blow you off too lol

I think the hold works for Harvard, but not for CLS.

FWIW they sent a "holdish" email at Michigan but it was worded better.

[jd2014!]

Did anyone get flat-out rejected today? Or were all those who received a letter just held and waitlisted?

I don't think I saw any "reserve"s reported... did anyone actually report a reserve e-mail?

Those probably come out later in the cycle, along with Reserves. Does anyone know if CLS sent out "holds" this early last year?

Got my hold letter in late Feb last year.

[sarahlawg]

Did anyone get flat-out rejected today? Or were all those who received a letter just held and waitlisted?

No waitlists have gone out yet. Just holds. Holds are not the same as WL. At COlumbia, the Wl is called "reserve."

Sorry, I meant "held or waitlisted/on reserve" -- and I don't know, I think earlier there were some people who DID get put on reserve and then others are reporting that on LSN (though they may be misinterpreting their hold letters).

Any confirmation appreciated.

I looked at some of the lsn profiles and they reported they get held but put in wl

[dabbadon8]

OMG just caught up on the 20 PAGES!!! since I had to leave 3 hours ago. I can't believe the holds continued on for another hour!!! I'm also sitting at no hold/no VCE, but I don't have solid numbers by any means. For myself personally (and thus not for the whole forgotten group), I am terrified by the fact that I didn't get held. I'm hesitant to consider myself a part of the forgotten group until tomorrow, which I'm guessing may be when they start the reserve/ding emails. I'm officially enjoying what will probably be the last night I can hope to get into Columbia Law. But I still think some of you non-holds with higher numbers should keep the hope alive!

Um we are fine.

Youuuuu are fine. Your numbers are way more solid than mine. That's why I don't think all the non-holds are getting the same decisions. I think Knock said earlier that it means the VCE is already in the mail, or rejections will be coming later. Rather than it being either/or I think both are likely true depending on the applicant. Either way I would feel a lot better if I'd been held at this point.

I am just glad I will get a decision sooner rather then april (hopefully). I would like to have some closure. So when people ask me where I am going I can say Michigan instead of probably Michigan.

[sarahlawg]

Did anyone get flat-out rejected today? Or were all those who received a letter just held and waitlisted?

I don't think I saw any "reserve"s reported... did anyone actually report a reserve e-mail?

Those probably come out later in the cycle, along with Reserves. Does anyone know if CLS sent out "holds" this early last year?

it's worth noting that last year they were snail mail...don't know how much longer that would make the process take to get out to applicants, but that may account for why they came out later than this year's email. who knows, though.

[akikaze]

Either way I would feel a lot better if I'd been held at this point.

With ~2-3 notable outliers, I'll note that the overall statistical quality of the "no response" pool is slightly lower than that of the "hold" pool.

[vertex]

Tomorrow is the last big wave of admits! Everyone hold on to your hats!

[bdubs]

Tomorrow is the last big wave of admits! Everyone hold on to your hats!

I was waiting for this...

[bistduverrueckt]

r6
dulcatis
justhoping
RJ127
absolutazn87
forward
Philip_J_Fry
Kent M
TrustMeI'mAnActress
glitched
ahduth
bmore
LAWLAW09
bistduverrueckt

So I spend a day away from my laptop and chaos descends upon the thread. Count me in among those VCE-less people who haven't been held. I'm really worried about what this means though

[arkansawyer]

r6
dulcatis
justhoping
RJ127
absolutazn87
forward
Philip_J_Fry
Kent M
TrustMeI'mAnActress
glitched
ahduth
bmore
LAWLAW09
bistduverrueckt
arkansawyer

This is depressing

[ahduth]

I think the hold works for Harvard, but not for CLS.

FWIW they sent a "holdish" email at Michigan but it was worded better.

Yeah, Harvard's Harvard, but CLS has a downtown competitor.

[boushi]

Woke up abroad to a hold email. 172, 3.88, late Oct. submission. A bit surprised because my foreign language skills and research interests line up very nicely with Columbia's institutes. My LSN is in my profile.

[4102011]

Either way I would feel a lot better if I'd been held at this point.

With ~2-3 notable outliers, I'll note that the overall statistical quality of the "no response" pool is slightly lower than that of the "hold" pool.

I mean, the thing is, some of the people who haven't heard yet will be rejected (unless they just...didn't reject anyone and decided to hold them, which doesn't make sense. Also not saying that the people who responded will get rejected, just some people will be). So that in and of itself doesn't mean too much?

& I think that the held group also has a few really really amazing candidates, but I think that the non-hold group has some good people too. This is all v confusing.

[4102011]

So I spend a day away from my laptop and chaos descends upon the thread. Count me in among those VCE-less people who haven't been held. I'm really worried about what this means though

Seriously. I think we are all very, very confused.