Illinois Class of 2014 (With Dean Pless) Forum

[Spinozist21]

You're lucky! Not only did I not forget-- I had a nightmare about it!

Oh no! You gotta shed the nightmare bug. At least you have a week less to stress than I do

We should be in the same decision cycle then.

[Hannibal]

Here to say I'm very excited and scared for Friday

With my numbers (my profile numbers are wrong) it's kind of a safety, but its one that I love and would be my first acceptance. So it's also a test of whether or not I totally messed up my PS.

Ruv you Pless.

[softsgalore]

Great, make him think all people with >75th numbers are thinking of his school as a "safety" first and foremost. Urgh. I'm also worried about my PS as being risky, and have good numbers, but it's a school I have strong reasons for attending, both geographic and personal. Eesh. I can't help but think that situations like that are why schools start implementing YP policies.

[neonx]

I have toggled back and forth between "Complete from LSAC" and "File Complete -- Ready for Review" over the past two weeks. My latest status via status checker is "File Complete -- Ready for Review" on 12/6. Any guesses about when a decision will be rendered at this point? 12/10?

[Henchman21]

I have toggled back and forth between "Complete from LSAC" and "File Complete -- Ready for Review" over the past two weeks. My latest status via status checker is "File Complete -- Ready for Review" on 12/6. Any guesses about when a decision will be rendered at this point? 12/10?

Your not in review yet. It will say "File Complete - In Review" when you are.

[2011Cycle]

I have toggled back and forth between "Complete from LSAC" and "File Complete -- Ready for Review" over the past two weeks. My latest status via status checker is "File Complete -- Ready for Review" on 12/6. Any guesses about when a decision will be rendered at this point? 12/10?

Pless wrote:
Well, that was bad timing for a TLS outage. Emails have been sent out. 51 admits, 37 offers to the Wait List and 102 denials. As we did last year, we "offer" spots on our Wait List to applicants, and you must complete the online survey included in the email.

We will be moving the next batch of files into review shortly. Anyone who completed their file by November 10th will be in this next round. Decisions will be out on Friday, December 10th.

[neonx]

I have toggled back and forth between "Complete from LSAC" and "File Complete -- Ready for Review" over the past two weeks. My latest status via status checker is "File Complete -- Ready for Review" on 12/6. Any guesses about when a decision will be rendered at this point? 12/10?

Your not in review yet. It will say "File Complete - In Review" when you are.

Thank you. Hoping to hear word back before the Holidays. =)

[Hannibal]

Great, make him think all people with >75th numbers are thinking of his school as a "safety" first and foremost. Urgh. I'm also worried about my PS as being risky, and have good numbers, but it's a school I have strong reasons for attending, both geographic and personal. Eesh. I can't help but think that situations like that are why schools start implementing YP policies.

My numbers aren't above 75ths. Safety first and foremost is definitely not what I think of when I think of UIUC. It's just an observation based on my numbers. I'm sure Pless is aware that people judge their chances at getting into a school based on numbers.

[Barbie]

Great, make him think all people with >75th numbers are thinking of his school as a "safety" first and foremost. Urgh. I'm also worried about my PS as being risky, and have good numbers, but it's a school I have strong reasons for attending, both geographic and personal. Eesh. I can't help but think that situations like that are why schools start implementing YP policies.

My numbers aren't above 75ths. Safety first and foremost is definitely not what I think of when I think of UIUC. It's just an observation based on my numbers. I'm sure Pless is aware that people judge their chances at getting into a school based on numbers.

shhhhh hannibanani, I want Pless to look at my app and go "Aw, poor little Barbie's numbers aren't up to par, but she's clearly fabulous nonetheless "

[Hannibal]

Great, make him think all people with >75th numbers are thinking of his school as a "safety" first and foremost. Urgh. I'm also worried about my PS as being risky, and have good numbers, but it's a school I have strong reasons for attending, both geographic and personal. Eesh. I can't help but think that situations like that are why schools start implementing YP policies.

My numbers aren't above 75ths. Safety first and foremost is definitely not what I think of when I think of UIUC. It's just an observation based on my numbers. I'm sure Pless is aware that people judge their chances at getting into a school based on numbers.

shhhhh hannibanani, I want Pless to look at my app and go "Aw, poor little Barbie's numbers aren't up to par, but she's clearly fabulous nonetheless "

You know I don't think the numbers apply to you barbie Unfortunately some of us have had lives that are kind of lame and have to get by on grades and a 3.5 hour test. Which I am totally OK with

[Barbie]

You know I don't think the numbers apply to you barbie Unfortunately some of us have had lives that are kind of lame and have to get by on grades and a 3.5 hour test. Which I am totally OK with

Psht. Hanni Thinking Cam >> Barbie Active Cam (this is a metaphor. I swear:D )

[ArchRoark]

Great, make him think all people with >75th numbers are thinking of his school as a "safety" first and foremost. Urgh. I'm also worried about my PS as being risky, and have good numbers, but it's a school I have strong reasons for attending, both geographic and personal. Eesh. I can't help but think that situations like that are why schools start implementing YP policies.

My ps was extremely risky, but got accepted with a 3/4th tuition sholarship. I am glad he was able to see the over arching message I was trying to convey. I know my ps ended up being a detriment to my chances at some schools.

[thelaststraw05]

Dean Pless,

I would like to add to the chorus thanking you for doing this. I know the date you go under review is dependent on your complete date. Is the relevant date when you first go complete or the most recent complete date? I submitted an addendum and I was curious whether that would delay your review of my file.

Thank you.

[Pless]

Dean Pless,

I would like to add to the chorus thanking you for doing this. I know the date you go under review is dependent on your complete date. Is the relevant date when you first go complete or the most recent complete date? I submitted an addendum and I was curious whether that would delay your review of my file.

Thank you.

The relevant date is the first time you go "Complete - Ready for Review" Adding things to your file after that will not push you back.

[crossingforHYS]

Thank you Dean Pless for the acceptance.

I wanted to inquire about the possibility of clerking and how probable it is from Illinois? Also, if in addition to your civil litigation clinic the school was looking to expand to include an Appellate clinic?

Thank you!

[Pless]

Thank you Dean Pless for the acceptance.

I wanted to inquire about the possibility of clerking and how probable it is from Illinois? Also, if in addition to your civil litigation clinic the school was looking to expand to include an Appellate clinic?

Thank you!

Typically 8 to 12% of the class clerks after graduation. We have appellate clinics in criminal law, prosecution and defense, and our Civil Litigation Clinic does handle appellate work if one of their cases goes that far. They have been working on a large class action(ish) public benefits case for several years that has bounced back and forth. We have added two new clinics in the last three years, Patent Prosecution and Family Advocacy and we are looking to continue adding new clinics in the coming years.

[jaydizzle]

Dean Pless: Illinois is for sure a long shot for me, but I just wanted to get an idea how big of a long shot. How many sub 160 LSAT non-URM folks did you guys take last year? If you can't answer, that's fine. I'm just curious.

[Barbie]

Dean Pless: Illinois is for sure a long shot for me, but I just wanted to get an idea how big of a long shot. How many sub 160 LSAT non-URM folks did you guys take last year? If you can't answer, that's fine. I'm just curious.

(I'm clearly not Dean Pless) but he said earlier that there are very few spots reserved for us with lower #s. He said there are, however, some spots available. They are just far and few. If you browse through the thread you'll find his answer

[Pless]

As usual, Barbie does a better job of answering then I can.

[Lwoods]

As usual, Barbie does a better job of answering then I can.

You should admit her and then hire her.

[jaydizzle]

As usual, Barbie does a better job of answering then I can.

You should admit her and then hire her.

I would like to be admitted too hah! Whatever happens, I do value all of this transparency. It makes things a lot less stressful.

[Spinozist21]

As usual, Barbie does a better job of answering then I can.

You should admit her and then hire her.

And then she can admit me.

[NJcollegestudent]

I have not applied to this school, however, seeing as this is the only thread with an actual dean responding to questions, i have to ask this. What led you to post on TLS and create a thread such as this with a great deal of transparency? Is this a model for other deans as well, or just specific to some law schools?

[Pless]

I have not applied to this school, however, seeing as this is the only thread with an actual dean responding to questions, i have to ask this. What led you to post on TLS and create a thread such as this with a great deal of transparency? Is this a model for other deans as well, or just specific to some law schools?

The amount of bad information about the law school application process that is online has always driven me crazy. A few years ago I just finally had enough and decided that I would try to put some good information out here. I chose TLS because I thought the conversation was fairly civilized, the site is well run and it had the best search features. I don't know of any other deans currently communicating in this way, but a number of them have blogs on their own law school sites that are very informative.

[NJcollegestudent]

I have not applied to this school, however, seeing as this is the only thread with an actual dean responding to questions, i have to ask this. What led you to post on TLS and create a thread such as this with a great deal of transparency? Is this a model for other deans as well, or just specific to some law schools?

The amount of bad information about the law school application process that is online has always driven me crazy. A few years ago I just finally had enough and decided that I would try to put some good information out here. I chose TLS because I thought the conversation was fairly civilized, the site is well run and it had the best search features. I don't know of any other deans currently communicating in this way, but a number of them have blogs on their own law school sites that are very informative.

Again, I must say this is a great way to communicate with prospective law students.