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Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:35 am
by JamMasterJ
TommyK wrote:
jdfrisby wrote:I'm 166 3.475, but with a fairly upward trending GPA. I'm also from Indiana. Does anyone have any idea what my chances are with these numbers? I'm taking the LSAT again in Feb (hopefully 169-173) and I haven't quite finished my app but I was just wondering. Also, I'm diabetic so I am technically under the Americans with Disabilities Act umbrella and I was wondering if that affects admissions/scholarship decisions, and if so, how to let them know this. IU-Indy has a box for ADA to check but no other app has this. Anyway, I know I have a lot of random questions but I was hoping to see if anyone got in with similar numbers that is not a URM and doesn't have any crazy strong softs


You're almost certainly in. Probably in with $120k. A couple people with 166 lsat and substantially lower gpa got $120k.

Regarding your "disability" - no, i sincerely doubt you get additional scholarship money for not being able to process sugars properly.

You should apply soon if you haven't already.

Edit: Allow me to introduce you to Lawschoolnumbers.com, if you haven't already stumbled across it. You can evaluate how the cycles are going. Caveat - information is user-submitted, so accuracy isn't guaranteed, but it's pretty good. You can see how people with your numbers are fairing with acceptances and scholarship money.

http://indiana.lawschoolnumbers.com/sta ... Cycle=1011


I didn't think it had any effect. I just thought it was odd that Indy had that on their app and figured it was worth a shot in the dark. I wasn't expecting anything.
Thanks for the prediction though. I've been to LSN and LSP and they both looked good. I was just wondering what other people in my range were getting.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:01 am
by RooksWS6
^ I would say you are a pretty safe bet... I'm a 167 with a substantially lower GPA and got in with $$. I am in state and have heard that IU is under some pressure to admit more IN residents. Not sure if that is completely true or how much of a role it played, but thought I'd throw it out there.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:52 am
by TommyK
Anybody know when the next ASD/ASW is? I want to go ahead and put my notice in at work that I'll need to take a vacation day. I wonder if my employer is raising any eyebrows that I'm taking every Friday off in March.

Thanks.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:26 am
by Lwoods
TommyK wrote:Anybody know when the next ASD/ASW is? I want to go ahead and put my notice in at work that I'll need to take a vacation day. I wonder if my employer is raising any eyebrows that I'm taking every Friday off in March.

Thanks.


Spring Law Day is Saturday, March 26.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:28 am
by giddybiscuit
Thanks for the tips, danquayle. I already deferred at Hastings because I'd rather be at IU with little to no debt than Hastings, which doesn't really have what I'm looking for outside of location. I agree with many of your points, i.e. location is important, but so is school rank and/or money. So I'll think about those 3 factors when I make my decision.... and hope I have more than a few schools to choose from.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:35 am
by TommyK
Lwoods wrote:
TommyK wrote:Anybody know when the next ASD/ASW is? I want to go ahead and put my notice in at work that I'll need to take a vacation day. I wonder if my employer is raising any eyebrows that I'm taking every Friday off in March.

Thanks.


Spring Law Day is Saturday, March 26.


Dang! The one weekend I was hoping it wasn't. Bama is the same weekend. I appreciate the info. Thanks, L.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:46 pm
by iowalum
So... are they just not going to ever admit anyone with a 164 or under? they can't have an entire class of full-ride 165+'s with mediocre gpa's... right?

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:26 pm
by miazdc
IU's LSN graph from last year's cycle (http://indiana.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0910/) has a really ridiculous 164 cutoff. The 15 or so people admitted with scores under 164 were URM, had a 3.75+ GPA, or both.

I've never been less happy with my 163 than when I saw that graph for the first time. Damn you, lsat!

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:28 pm
by TatteredDignity
Last cycle, my friend, who was not on LSN, was admitted with a very good scholly with 160/3.85.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:31 pm
by Plan2008
miazdc wrote:IU's LSN graph from last year's cycle (http://indiana.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0910/) has a really ridiculous 164 cutoff. The 15 or so people admitted with scores under 164 were URM, had a 3.75+ GPA, or both.

I've never been less happy with my 163 than when I saw that graph for the first time. Damn you, lsat!



When you look at the graph you will see that the vast majority of the greens are above 164. Which the school data show as their 75th percentile. In reality, 3/4 of their admits are below 164, so the self-reports in this data sample are in the high end range of the total sample. Don't worry so much. :P

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:33 pm
by Sandro
I think its pretty crazy that if I had gotten a 165/166 in October I probably wouldn't have retaken the LSAT in Dec, but because I got a 164 I decided to retake and subsequently got the score I needed for IU's 120k and into UGA. :shock: We're talking 1 or 2 questions missed/right here.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:35 pm
by Lwoods
miazdc wrote:IU's LSN graph from last year's cycle (http://indiana.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0910/) has a really ridiculous 164 cutoff. The 15 or so people admitted with scores under 164 were URM, had a 3.75+ GPA, or both.

I've never been less happy with my 163 than when I saw that graph for the first time. Damn you, lsat!


It's crazy how, particularly in the 160s, + / - 1 point can make such a big difference!

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:43 pm
by miazdc
Plan2008 wrote:
miazdc wrote:IU's LSN graph from last year's cycle (http://indiana.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0910/) has a really ridiculous 164 cutoff. The 15 or so people admitted with scores under 164 were URM, had a 3.75+ GPA, or both.

I've never been less happy with my 163 than when I saw that graph for the first time. Damn you, lsat!



When you look at the graph you will see that the vast majority of the greens are above 164. Which the school data show as their 75th percentile. In reality, 3/4 of their admits are below 164, so the self-reports in this data sample are in the high end range of the total sample. Don't worry so much. :P



You're ruining my pity party with your logic! :D Haha I just realllly want IU. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:43 pm
by JamMasterJ
Lwoods wrote:
miazdc wrote:IU's LSN graph from last year's cycle (http://indiana.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0910/) has a really ridiculous 164 cutoff. The 15 or so people admitted with scores under 164 were URM, had a 3.75+ GPA, or both.

I've never been less happy with my 163 than when I saw that graph for the first time. Damn you, lsat!


It's crazy how, particularly in the 160s, + / - 1 point can make such a big difference!


It's because the average score doesn't matter to them as much as whether a score falls at, above or below the 25/50/75th percentile. A 174 doesn't change IU's 75th percentile any more than a 167. This is obviously an exaggeration, but I don't think average LSAT scores affect USNWR rankings

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:03 pm
by Lwoods
jdfrisby wrote:
Lwoods wrote:
miazdc wrote:IU's LSN graph from last year's cycle (http://indiana.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0910/) has a really ridiculous 164 cutoff. The 15 or so people admitted with scores under 164 were URM, had a 3.75+ GPA, or both.

I've never been less happy with my 163 than when I saw that graph for the first time. Damn you, lsat!


It's crazy how, particularly in the 160s, + / - 1 point can make such a big difference!


It's because the average score doesn't matter to them as much as whether a score falls at, above or below the 25/50/75th percentile. A 174 doesn't change IU's 75th percentile any more than a 167. This is obviously an exaggeration, but I don't think average LSAT scores affect USNWR rankings


Yeah, I know it actually makes sense, but it still seems crazy. ;)

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:04 pm
by Sandro
If you look at LSN everyone who has been accepted has gotten 120k. I reallyyyy want to see this year's class medians/numbers - logic says throwing 120k out like candy will yield a higher GPA/LSAT than usual.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:06 pm
by TommyK
Sandro wrote:If you look at LSN everyone who has been accepted has gotten 120k. I reallyyyy want to see this year's class medians/numbers - logic says throwing 120k out like candy will yield a higher GPA/LSAT than usual.


Nahh, some people have gotten 105k

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:09 pm
by Sandro
ahh, my bad. Still.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:04 pm
by JenDarby
I only applied on Sunday, can someone give me a quick run down of what to expect before being accepted...

I haven't gotten an email or anything yet, and really don't want to sift this thread.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:11 pm
by SrLaw
JenDarby wrote:I only applied on Sunday, can someone give me a quick run down of what to expect before being accepted...

I haven't gotten an email or anything yet, and really don't want to sift this thread.



+1. I want my 120K. IU-B will be leap frogging some schools this year. That is for sure.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:12 pm
by Lwoods
JenDarby wrote:I only applied on Sunday, can someone give me a quick run down of what to expect before being accepted...

I haven't gotten an email or anything yet, and really don't want to sift this thread.


My timeline might be a little more stretched out because I applied in late September.

"Application received" email a week after submitting.
"Application complete" email a month after that (there wasn't anything holding it up).
USPS Priority envelope with acceptance roughly 6 months after complete email.

I imagine you'll get good news. ;)

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:45 pm
by JenDarby
Hope so! If I had known their lax scholly stipulations, I would have applied way earlier. I imagine time doesn't really affect their scholarship offers too much yet, since clearly a good majority of those with $120k won't be attending, so they are probably still willing to put them out there.

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:52 pm
by iowalum
jdfrisby wrote:
Lwoods wrote:
miazdc wrote:IU's LSN graph from last year's cycle (http://indiana.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0910/) has a really ridiculous 164 cutoff. The 15 or so people admitted with scores under 164 were URM, had a 3.75+ GPA, or both.

I've never been less happy with my 163 than when I saw that graph for the first time. Damn you, lsat!


It's crazy how, particularly in the 160s, + / - 1 point can make such a big difference!


It's because the average score doesn't matter to them as much as whether a score falls at, above or below the 25/50/75th percentile. A 174 doesn't change IU's 75th percentile any more than a 167. This is obviously an exaggeration, but I don't think average LSAT scores affect USNWR rankings


I agree - I have been beating myself up for getting a 164 (which at the time seemed ok) and after much debating deciding not to re-take.... and now if I had gotten a few more questions right I would probably have $120K. It's ridiculous.

I hope that they offer us 'lowly' 164's at least a little money... we are, after all, still at the median...

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:59 pm
by TommyK
iowalum wrote:
I hope that they offer us 'lowly' 164's at least a little money... we are, after all, still at the median...


last year's median...

Re: IU Bloomington Class of 2014

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:05 pm
by RooksWS6
This is mostly speculation on my part, but I expect the more "average" score holders to start seeing offers as we get later into the admissions cycle. It seems that by padding their roster with high scores, this will give them some room to accept the median and lower scores without worrying so much about where the median will fall when it's all said and done.

I think it's pretty clear that the main concern this year is raising their LSAT median and, as a result, ranking. Stands to reason that students that can help in this regard would be admitted and/or offered $$$ first.