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Re: SMU 2011

Postby waketiger » Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:54 pm

Just went from Held for Further Review - 2/10/2011 to Application Complete 3/23/2011. I am officially freaking out/worried...

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby renee88 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:09 pm

RaspberryBeret wrote:
jacketman03 wrote:
RightPrice wrote:
jacketman03 wrote:Oh, SMU is my first choice, and I think I'm gonna give them a call today.

let us know how that phone call goes. Hopefully it is more impactful than sometime late April to early May!

So I just called the Admissions Office, and they told me late April/early May. The only other thing they said was to send a LOCI, which I did when I was held. So yeah.



Lame. They're so slow!


When I called the other day, they said they're behind because they had a lot of snow days this year. ;) In all fairness, I'm sure Dallas is not equipped with much snow removal gear, but that is kind of a lame reason. (I may be biased.. I live in Wisconsin).

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Justathought » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:14 pm

Do any of you SMU students have opinions on the Oxford summer program? Is that the sort of experience that anyone would care about, or is it more of a glorified vacation? I ask because as a part time student, I could structure my summers something like - 1E/Oxford, 2E/typical 1L gig, 3E/SA position.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby swilson215 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:20 pm

renee88 wrote:
When I called the other day, they said they're behind because they had a lot of snow days this year. ;) In all fairness, I'm sure Dallas is not equipped with much snow removal gear, but that is kind of a lame reason. (I may be biased.. I live in Wisconsin).


Personally, I have no knowledge of Dallas' snow preparedness. But I will say that it has snowed one time in my whole life here in my hometown in Central/Southern California. It was 1999 and we only got about 2/3 of an inch, but the whole city (I'm not joking) shut down. Once I got to my undergrad in Ohio I realized how completely absurd that was.

I can see this happening in Dallas, to a lesser degree! :) But still, it's frustrating!!!

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby jacketman03 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:23 pm

swilson215 wrote:
renee88 wrote:
When I called the other day, they said they're behind because they had a lot of snow days this year. ;) In all fairness, I'm sure Dallas is not equipped with much snow removal gear, but that is kind of a lame reason. (I may be biased.. I live in Wisconsin).


Personally, I have no knowledge of Dallas' snow preparedness. But I will say that it has snowed one time in my whole life here in my hometown in Central/Southern California. It was 1999 and we only got about 2/3 of an inch, but the whole city (I'm not joking) shut down. Once I got to my undergrad in Ohio I realized how completely absurd that was.

I can see this happening in Dallas, to a lesser degree! :) But still, it's frustrating!!!

Remember, the entire state of Texas was shut down the whole week before the Super Bowl because of some snow/ice.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby fathergoose » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:27 pm

renee88 wrote:When I called the other day, they said they're behind because they had a lot of snow days this year. ;) In all fairness, I'm sure Dallas is not equipped with much snow removal gear, but that is kind of a lame reason. (I may be biased.. I live in Wisconsin).


In Dallas' defense it wasn't the snow, but the ice. It was a freak weather situation where was 50 degrees, it rained an inch or two, and then it dropped into the 20s and then the teens in a matter of hours. It didn't get freezing for almost a week so the ice never had a chance to melt.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby ArchRoark » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:04 pm

Just finished interviewing for the Sarah T Hughes. I have to quit replaying my answers in my head. Did anyone else on TLS interview?

Edit: fat finger iPhone fail
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Re: SMU 2011

Postby fathergoose » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:52 pm

Saw this on ATL today. FWIW it shows median starting pay in private sector for SMU at 80k, UT at 83k, Houston at 78k, and Baylor at 75k.

http://blogs.forbes.com/kurtbadenhausen/2011/03/23/law-school-graduates-do-not-make-160000/

edit: added link

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby mbusch22 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:57 pm

fathergoose wrote:Saw this on ATL today. FWIW it shows median starting pay in private sector for SMU at 80k, UT at 83k, Houston at 78k, and Baylor at 75k.

http://blogs.forbes.com/kurtbadenhausen/2011/03/23/law-school-graduates-do-not-make-160000/

edit: added link


more evidence that USNWR under-ranks SMU.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby ebo » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:14 pm

fathergoose wrote:Saw this on ATL today. FWIW it shows median starting pay in private sector for SMU at 80k, UT at 83k, Houston at 78k, and Baylor at 75k.

http://blogs.forbes.com/kurtbadenhausen/2011/03/23/law-school-graduates-do-not-make-160000/

edit: added link

Just saw this. Interesting... SMU's 80k is also ahead of:

Emory
Notre Dame
BU
W&L
WUSTL
UNC
Wake Forest

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Justathought » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:17 pm

ebo wrote:
fathergoose wrote:Saw this on ATL today. FWIW it shows median starting pay in private sector for SMU at 80k, UT at 83k, Houston at 78k, and Baylor at 75k.

http://blogs.forbes.com/kurtbadenhausen/2011/03/23/law-school-graduates-do-not-make-160000/

edit: added link

Just saw this. Interesting... SMU's 80k is also ahead of:

Emory
Notre Dame
BU
W&L
WUSTL
UNC
Wake Forest


Great, it is in a dead tie with Rutgers! How wonderful since that's my other top contender, at the moment. This decision is a real pain in the neck.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby ebo » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:21 pm

Justathought wrote:
ebo wrote:
fathergoose wrote:Saw this on ATL today. FWIW it shows median starting pay in private sector for SMU at 80k, UT at 83k, Houston at 78k, and Baylor at 75k.

http://blogs.forbes.com/kurtbadenhausen/2011/03/23/law-school-graduates-do-not-make-160000/

edit: added link

Just saw this. Interesting... SMU's 80k is also ahead of:

Emory
Notre Dame
BU
W&L
WUSTL
UNC
Wake Forest


Great, it is in a dead tie with Rutgers! How wonderful since that's my other top contender, at the moment. This decision is a real pain in the neck.

Where do you want to live? If it's NY/NJ/Northeast, then go Rutgers, SMU won't do you any favors up there. If you want TX, then SMU is the better choice

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Justathought » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:22 pm

ebo wrote:
Justathought wrote:
ebo wrote:
fathergoose wrote:Saw this on ATL today. FWIW it shows median starting pay in private sector for SMU at 80k, UT at 83k, Houston at 78k, and Baylor at 75k.

http://blogs.forbes.com/kurtbadenhausen/2011/03/23/law-school-graduates-do-not-make-160000/

edit: added link

Just saw this. Interesting... SMU's 80k is also ahead of:

Emory
Notre Dame
BU
W&L
WUSTL
UNC
Wake Forest


Great, it is in a dead tie with Rutgers! How wonderful since that's my other top contender, at the moment. This decision is a real pain in the neck.

Where do you want to live? If it's NY/NJ/Northeast, then go Rutgers, SMU won't do you any favors up there. If you want TX, then SMU is the better choice


Still deciding. I like the idea of no state income tax and a much lower cost of living, but NYC is home to friends and family.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby jacketman03 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:29 pm

Justathought wrote:Great, it is in a dead tie with Rutgers! How wonderful since that's my other top contender, at the moment. This decision is a real pain in the neck.

Not trying to influence your decision, but I would bet that 80k in Dallas goes a bit further than 80k in New York.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby ebo » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:29 pm

Justathought wrote:Still deciding. I like the idea of no state income tax and a much lower cost of living, but NYC is home to friends and family

Have you spent much time in Texas? I'm not from there and I love it, but you definitely need to spend some considerable time there before making such a decision...It's not for everyone

-Captain Obvious

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby jacketman03 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:30 pm

ebo wrote:
Justathought wrote:Still deciding. I like the idea of no state income tax and a much lower cost of living, but NYC is home to friends and family

Have you spent much time in Texas? I'm not from there and I love it, but you definitely need to spend some considerable time there before making such a decision...It's not for everyone

-Captain Obvious

+1

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Justathought » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:32 pm

jacketman03 wrote:
Justathought wrote:Great, it is in a dead tie with Rutgers! How wonderful since that's my other top contender, at the moment. This decision is a real pain in the neck.

Not trying to influence your decision, but I would bet that 80k in Dallas goes a bit further than 80k in New York.


Exactly, and although I consider both schools to be underrated, Rutgers seems to be heavily focused on Public interest, whereas SMU seems focused on private practice. The latter is more appealing to me. Finally, I don't like that Rutgers is tied to the state for funding. I don't trust that. I see they have a high student faculty ratio, I see don't really spend on student focused programs the way SMU does, and that concerns me.

Still, its a full time option, and its in an area I love. So the decision is tough.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby swilson215 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:34 pm

ArchRoark wrote:Just finished interviewing for the Sarah T Hughes. I her to quick replaying my answers on my head. Did anyone else on TLS interview?


I applied, but didn't make the finalists, apparently :( Well, I'm crossing my fingers for you!

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Justathought » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:35 pm

ebo wrote:
Justathought wrote:Still deciding. I like the idea of no state income tax and a much lower cost of living, but NYC is home to friends and family

Have you spent much time in Texas? I'm not from there and I love it, but you definitely need to spend some considerable time there before making such a decision...It's not for everyone

-Captain Obvious


Never been to Dallas; I did spend some time in Houston, and although I know its very different from Dallas, I enjoyed the city quite a bit. I'm pretty sure I would be okay with Dallas long term. I love warmer weather, and the city, from what I've gathered, seems very welcoming and sufficiently diverse - in terms of social activities.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby kalvano » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:11 pm

renee88 wrote:When I called the other day, they said they're behind because they had a lot of snow days this year. ;) In all fairness, I'm sure Dallas is not equipped with much snow removal gear, but that is kind of a lame reason. (I may be biased.. I live in Wisconsin).



The entire city was shut down for a week. Then a couple days the next week, as well.

No joke.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby kalvano » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:12 pm

mbusch22 wrote:
fathergoose wrote:Saw this on ATL today. FWIW it shows median starting pay in private sector for SMU at 80k, UT at 83k, Houston at 78k, and Baylor at 75k.

http://blogs.forbes.com/kurtbadenhausen/2011/03/23/law-school-graduates-do-not-make-160000/

edit: added link


more evidence that USNWR under-ranks SMU.



They certainly do. Though I do think Dallas is a little harder to rank, since it has a more in-between market. Other places seem to be either $160K or $45K with very little in-between. Dallas seems to have a lot in that $75K - $100K area.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby kalvano » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:14 pm

Justathought wrote:
jacketman03 wrote:
Justathought wrote:Great, it is in a dead tie with Rutgers! How wonderful since that's my other top contender, at the moment. This decision is a real pain in the neck.

Not trying to influence your decision, but I would bet that 80k in Dallas goes a bit further than 80k in New York.


Exactly, and although I consider both schools to be underrated, Rutgers seems to be heavily focused on Public interest, whereas SMU seems focused on private practice. The latter is more appealing to me. Finally, I don't like that Rutgers is tied to the state for funding. I don't trust that. I see they have a high student faculty ratio, I see don't really spend on student focused programs the way SMU does, and that concerns me.

Still, its a full time option, and its in an area I love. So the decision is tough.



I will say that, regardless of what you want to do (public or private), Dallas seems to pay pretty well, and the money goes further here.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby ArchRoark » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:50 pm

swilson215 wrote:
ArchRoark wrote:Just finished interviewing for the Sarah T Hughes. I her to quick replaying my answers on my head. Did anyone else on TLS interview?


I applied, but didn't make the finalists, apparently :( Well, I'm crossing my fingers for you!

Thanks!

Damn my post was horrendous. Fat finger iphone posting while trying to catch a flight never ends well.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby sceva31st » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:33 pm

Just got home from the ASD for evening students. The campus is really really nice and so were the people I sat with.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby renee88 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:54 pm

kalvano wrote:
renee88 wrote:When I called the other day, they said they're behind because they had a lot of snow days this year. ;) In all fairness, I'm sure Dallas is not equipped with much snow removal gear, but that is kind of a lame reason. (I may be biased.. I live in Wisconsin).



The entire city was shut down for a week. Then a couple days the next week, as well.

No joke.


I understand; my Dad lives near Dallas. I was just mentioning it for people who are waiting, and because after waiting since November, it just wasn't the explanation I was expecting to hear. Truly not trying to knock the city of Dallas for something for which they understandably unprepared... just poking fun as a resident of the miserable northern Midwest. :)




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