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Re: SMU 2011

Postby bartleby » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:09 pm

Justathought wrote:
kalvano wrote:I think my ASW day was:

9:00-ish - Breakfast in the quad
10:00-ish - Go listen to law professors and deans talk about how awesome they are - did you know SMU Law has 5 grads in the CEO Forbes Fortune 50 list? Even more than Harvard Business, motherfuckers. 5 grads - that's some real shit right there.
12:00-ish - Lunch
1:00-ish - Tour and stuff
2:00-ish - 5 goddamn grads in the Forbes Fortune 50 list. You best believe this shit is real.
3:00-ish - Dean Attanasio kicks ass at Con Law and will tell you so. Some sort of simulated class.

Then there was a dinner at about 6:00.























5 CEO's in the Fortune 50. That's right bitches. 5. More than Harvard Business School.


This is some high quality posting right here.


But is this because of SMU law school or oil money connections

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby graceful1 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:22 pm

bartleby wrote:
Justathought wrote:
kalvano wrote:I think my ASW day was:

9:00-ish - Breakfast in the quad
10:00-ish - Go listen to law professors and deans talk about how awesome they are - did you know SMU Law has 5 grads in the CEO Forbes Fortune 50 list? Even more than Harvard Business, motherfuckers. 5 grads - that's some real shit right there.
12:00-ish - Lunch
1:00-ish - Tour and stuff
2:00-ish - 5 goddamn grads in the Forbes Fortune 50 list. You best believe this shit is real.
3:00-ish - Dean Attanasio kicks ass at Con Law and will tell you so. Some sort of simulated class.

Then there was a dinner at about 6:00.























5 CEO's in the Fortune 50. That's right bitches. 5. More than Harvard Business School.


This is some high quality posting right here.


But is this because of SMU law school or oil money connections

Harvard Business School - 5 CEOs
SMU Dedman School of Law - 3 CEOs
Harvard Law School - 2 CEOs

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Thirteen » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:04 pm

graceful1 wrote:Harvard Business School - 5 CEOs
SMU Dedman School of Law - 3 CEOs
Harvard Law School - 2 CEOs

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http://www.law.smu.edu/Media/Email/Alum ... utives.pdf


You're right, the CEO number is 3. SMU Law recently announced that 5 of our grads are billionaires, so that's probably how the mix-up occurred. Trust me, I'm sure everyone at ASD will hear about both accolades multiple times.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby bartleby » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:05 pm

Thirteen wrote:
graceful1 wrote:Harvard Business School - 5 CEOs
SMU Dedman School of Law - 3 CEOs
Harvard Law School - 2 CEOs

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http://www.law.smu.edu/Media/Email/Alum ... utives.pdf


You're right, the CEO number is 3. SMU Law recently announced that 5 of our grads are billionaires, so that's probably how the mix-up occurred. Trust me, I'm sure everyone at ASD will hear about both accolades multiple times.


is one of the Jerry Jones' son?

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby avery87 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:50 pm

"Application Completed 3/10." Think I can expect to hear something in the next few days?

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Justathought » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:53 pm

avery87 wrote:"Application Completed 3/10." Think I can expect to hear something in the next few days?


Yeah, I would bet it comes before Thursday.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby graceful1 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:54 pm

bartleby wrote:
Thirteen wrote:
graceful1 wrote:Harvard Business School - 5 CEOs
SMU Dedman School of Law - 3 CEOs
Harvard Law School - 2 CEOs

David Dillon '76 JD - Chairman and CEO, The Kroger Company
Angela Braly '85 JD - President and CEO, WellPoint Inc.
Edward Rust '75 JD/MBA - Chairman and CEO, State Farm Insurance

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http://www.law.smu.edu/Media/Email/Alum ... utives.pdf


You're right, the CEO number is 3. SMU Law recently announced that 5 of our grads are billionaires, so that's probably how the mix-up occurred. Trust me, I'm sure everyone at ASD will hear about both accolades multiple times.


is one of the Jerry Jones' son?

Robert Rowling, oil & gas, investments, Dallas
Gerald J. Ford, banking, Dallas
Trevor Rees-Jones, oil, Dallas (not Jerry's son)
Helmut Sohmen, shipping, Hong Kong
Hong-Tu Tsai, finance, Taipei

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/head ... -grads.ece
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Re: SMU 2011

Postby HBK » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:15 pm

I think the pitch was 3 Fortune CEOs. More than Harvard Law School, and second only to Harvard Business School. It's pretty impressive to have more CEOs than any law school.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby timmah427 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:24 pm

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... w-rankings

SMU dropped a little bit. Texas moved up to 14.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Justathought » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:31 pm

timmah427 wrote:http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings

SMU dropped a little bit. Texas moved up to 14.


I think #50 still counts as tier one. But you know, since they got rid of the tiers and now rank the first 100 as national schools (lol yeah right), and the next 43 as regional (okay?), and the rest as ???( I don't know...local?), I'm pretty sure none of this matters.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby mbusch22 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:36 pm

Justathought wrote:
timmah427 wrote:http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings

SMU dropped a little bit. Texas moved up to 14.


I think #50 still counts as tier one. But you know, since they got rid of the tiers and now rank the first 100 as national schools (lol yeah right), and the next 43 as regional (okay?), and the rest as ???( I don't know...local?), I'm pretty sure none of this matters.


The rankings are so stupid. Somehow UMiami went from 71... to 60.... and this year they're 77. And now Emory has dropped to 30 all the sudden.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby kalvano » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:38 pm

It won't matter one bit in Dallas.

It kind of sucks if you want to go beyond Texas, but it won't matter within.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Justathought » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:45 pm

kalvano wrote:It won't matter one bit in Dallas.

It kind of sucks if you want to go beyond Texas, but it won't matter within.


Agree with the first part, disagree with the second part. We are talking #48 to # 50. Even considering the fact that its still tier 1 under the old system, its such a minuscule drop. I can't imagine anyone would say, "Well I would have hired him, but SMU is clearly on the decline as evidenced by their two point drop. Screw this guy!" :P

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Justathought » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:02 pm

On the plus side. There is one ranking I care about - Law Firms rank SMU #41. :)

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby ClutchCity24 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:16 pm

JustAThought...can you post the full list for what law firms rank? I can only see thru number 10.

2 spots won't matter for SMU. The name still does work in Texas, especially Dallas.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Justathought » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:21 pm

ClutchCity24 wrote:JustAThought...can you post the full list for what law firms rank? I can only see thru number 10.

2 spots won't matter for SMU. The name still does work in Texas, especially Dallas.


Frankly that's a pain in the neck, and I might get banned for it anyway. Why don't you PM me with some schools you're interested in?

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby kalvano » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:36 pm

The list is live on USNWR.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Justathought » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:42 pm

kalvano wrote:The list is live on USNWR.


lol, problem solved!

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby guyindfw » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:35 am

timmah427 wrote:http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings

SMU dropped a little bit. Texas moved up to 14.


This sucks big time. SMU P/T dropped from 10 to 20. too bad:(

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby mcnabb5 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:36 am

This was mentioned in the resurrected 2010 thread- just 66% of SMU grads employed at graduation, according to 2012 USNWR rankings.

Compare to-

Texas 91%
Houston 75%
Emory 65%
Tulane 53%
Baylor 46%

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby AP-375 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:02 am

So after a little bit of discussion, I'm wondering if it would be better to visit the school on a non-ASW day, to try to get a real vibe and all. If ASW is just a rehashing of all of their major pamphlet points, it might not be as truly informative about student culture, or anything for that matter.
I actually might try to visit on Thursday before ASW, then stick around for Friday ASW, but it does mean more time off of work. Thoughts?

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby deliriousxix » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:12 am

guyindfw wrote:
timmah427 wrote:http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings

SMU dropped a little bit. Texas moved up to 14.


This sucks big time. SMU P/T dropped from 10 to 20. too bad:(


I know. I wonder why such a big drop.. :?

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby Justathought » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:34 am

deliriousxix wrote:
guyindfw wrote:
timmah427 wrote:http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings

SMU dropped a little bit. Texas moved up to 14.


This sucks big time. SMU P/T dropped from 10 to 20. too bad:(


I know. I wonder why such a big drop.. :?


They knew we were coming.


Also: Bumping thread to get ahead of the SMU 2010 one. :wink:

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby scutarius » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:36 pm

Got the package in the mail. $11K/yr Dean's Scholarship with Good Standing. It is strange that there was a scholarship letter with the admission package. The voicemail they left said scholarship decisions would be made over the next few weeks and would come in a seperate letter. Is it that the Dean's Scholarship comes with the acceptance and other scholarship offers come later?

Sucks about the rankings, expecially the PT program. SMU is now way behind UH in the PT rankings. They are even behind DU. I don't understand the drop in PT when the FT program is ranked higher than both of those schools. Could it be that SMU doesn't put as much effort into the PT program and students? I would hate to spend this much money and be treated as a second class student.

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Re: SMU 2011

Postby deliriousxix » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:45 pm

scutarius wrote:Got the package in the mail. $11K/yr Dean's Scholarship with Good Standing. It is strange that there was a scholarship letter with the admission package. The voicemail they left said scholarship decisions would be made over the next few weeks and would come in a seperate letter. Is it that the Dean's Scholarship comes with the acceptance and other scholarship offers come later?

Sucks about the rankings, expecially the PT program. SMU is now way behind UH in the PT rankings. They are even behind DU. I don't understand the drop in PT when the FT program is ranked higher than both of those schools. Could it be that SMU doesn't put as much effort into the PT program and students? I would hate to spend this much money and be treated as a second class student.


Me too. Got 9k/yr. I wish there was better insight on why such a significant drop. I wonder if it's because the class size is bigger? or cost? hopefully not employment prospects.. I'm touring soon so I will ask some questions and try to figure out some stuff.




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