SMU 2011 Forum

mrwarre85 · Post by **mrwarre85** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:09 pm

Looked it up. SMU has a 2.7 for its peer assessment score, well lower than the surrounding schools. This accounts for a full 25% of the rankings. 15% is the score by judges and lawyers, and SMU scores a 3.1 which is closer to the schools around it.

Can't be an organized bias-- Tulane, a very southern school, scores a 3.1/3.4 and is tied with SMU.

Anyone know why other law schools don't respect SMU? I had heard schools are often punished by their peers if they severely game the rankings (IE take nearly all severe splitters or severe reverse splitters). Of course, I don't assume SMU does that, I'm just curious as to why their score is so low.

bartleby · Post by **bartleby** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:48 pm

Wow. 25.6 thous and change per year. No stipulations.

Can current students tell me how diverse SMU and the surrounding areas are? I'm Asian and always felt the corporate side of Houston is a white man's world. I imagine Dallas to be more so but could be totally wrong.

Justathought · Post by **Justathought** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:53 pm

bartleby wrote:Wow. 25.6 thous and change per year. No stipulations.

Can current students tell me how diverse SMU and the surrounding areas are? I'm Asian and always felt the corporate side of Houston is a white man's world. I imagine Dallas to be more so but could be totally wrong.

Quick question Bart, not to derail the second half of your post. How did you find out? You get the packet today? If so, damn my location!

Edit: And big congrats!

kalvano · Post by **kalvano** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:30 pm

bartleby wrote:Wow. 25.6 thous and change per year. No stipulations.

Can current students tell me how diverse SMU and the surrounding areas are? I'm Asian and always felt the corporate side of Houston is a white man's world. I imagine Dallas to be more so but could be totally wrong.

Diverse? Well, it is in the Park Cities, so that puts a damper on it.

However, Dallas is a big city. You'll find everyone under the sun. I see black, white, Asian, Middle Eastern, every day at school. No one seems to care at all, either.

mrwarre85 · Post by **mrwarre85** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:30 pm

bartleby wrote:Wow. 25.6 thous and change per year. No stipulations.

Can current students tell me how diverse SMU and the surrounding areas are? I'm Asian and always felt the corporate side of Houston is a white man's world. I imagine Dallas to be more so but could be totally wrong.

I lived in the SMU area and it is not diverse. At all. However, I don't know about SMU law. I would look at LSAC's data and you will find the exact numbers of minorities at SMU law.

Looked at your lsn and you have some great options. SCU and Georgia in particular. Now you can add SMU to that list!

bartleby · Post by **bartleby** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:36 pm

Thanks all. I got my package today. Scholarship offer was in a sep. sheet from acceptance letter.

I'm not someone who plays the race card and I get along with all races. I just want to maximize my career options. Will make the drive and visit this weekend or next.

I'm def. down to UGA and SMU.

Justathought · Post by **Justathought** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:03 pm

mrwarre85 wrote:
bartleby wrote:
However, I don't know about SMU law. I would look at LSAC's data and you will find the exact numbers of minorities at SMU law.

Well they had one Puerto Rican listed there. I'm half; need one other half PR student so we can form up like Voltron.

Billy Batts · Post by **Billy Batts** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:14 pm

bartleby wrote:Wow. 25.6 thous and change per year. No stipulations.

Can current students tell me how diverse SMU and the surrounding areas are? I'm Asian and always felt the corporate side of Houston is a white man's world. I imagine Dallas to be more so but could be totally wrong.

In my section, it's roughly 90% white. There are a couple of black dudes, a couple of black girls, couple of Asians, couple of Hispanic girls.

Now, for the actual City of Dallas, not including the Park Cites or suburbs, I don't see any way that it's less than 50% Hispanic.

JRDallas11 · Post by **JRDallas11** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:32 am

Went "complete" either March 10th or 11th. Anyone else?

scutarius · Post by **scutarius** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:21 am

Thank you, nouseforaname123. That was a very informative post.

I had thought of the possibility of transferring to the FT program, or even transferring to another higher ranked Law School, but you pointed out several potential issues with that plan. Seems like once you are PT, you should stay there. It also sounds like the only potential transfer opportunities would be to other PT programs.

Lots to think about.

avery87 · Post by **avery87** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:37 pm

Applied back at the beginning of January, and have yet to go "complete" after February LSAT scores. Does this sound normal? Should I call and check on everything?

Thirteen · Post by **Thirteen** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:38 pm

chrisokc wrote:
bartleby wrote:Wow. 25.6 thous and change per year. No stipulations.

Can current students tell me how diverse SMU and the surrounding areas are? I'm Asian and always felt the corporate side of Houston is a white man's world. I imagine Dallas to be more so but could be totally wrong.
In my section, it's roughly 90% white. There are a couple of black dudes, a couple of black girls, couple of Asians, couple of Hispanic girls.

Now, for the actual City of Dallas, not including the Park Cites or suburbs, I don't see any way that it's less than 50% Hispanic.

JRDallas11 · Post by **JRDallas11** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:07 am

JRDallas11 wrote:Went "complete" either March 10th or 11th. Anyone else?

Update: Changed to "complet-ED" between the above post and now....curious....

guyindfw · Post by **guyindfw** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:20 am

Have any of the part-time folks gotten any scholarship? I was told that will send $$$ info in 2 weeks time.

Also what kind of schollies are given? Merit? Dean?

deliriousxix · Post by **deliriousxix** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:58 am

guyindfw wrote:Have any of the part-time folks gotten any scholarship? I was told that will send $$$ info in 2 weeks time.

Also what kind of schollies are given? Merit? Dean?

if you look at lawschoolnumbers.com some people have. From what I looked it.. it seems like if you have a 160+ you'll get a scholarship. If you have a 160 + >3.5 you'll get 36,000 (over four years) or maybe more. Those are merit scholarships.

frognot · Post by **frognot** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:30 am

guyindfw wrote:Have any of the part-time folks gotten any scholarship? I was told that will send $$$ info in 2 weeks time.

Also what kind of schollies are given? Merit? Dean?

I got a Dean's scholarship of 9K per year, must remain in good standing. Letter was with acceptance package.

bartleby · Post by **bartleby** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:36 am

what's the difference between dean and merit? is there one?

Justathought · Post by **Justathought** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:30 pm

Well, package finally arrived in the great State of New York. 9k per year over 4 years for part-time. The package was indeed, very appealing. *Sigh*, Decisions decisions.

AP-375 · Post by **AP-375** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:41 pm

Is there a published schedule for Admitted Students Day? I'm trying to make baby plans...

Justathought · Post by **Justathought** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:08 pm

AP-375 wrote:Is there a published schedule for Admitted Students Day? I'm trying to make baby plans...

Day Students: April 1st and April 29th.
Evening Students: March 23rd and April 19th.

AP-375 · Post by **AP-375** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:10 pm

Justathought wrote:
AP-375 wrote:Is there a published schedule for Admitted Students Day? I'm trying to make baby plans...
Day Students: April 1st and April 29th.
Evening Students: March 23rd and April 19th.

Yes, but do they have a schedule of events on those days? thanks.

Justathought · Post by **Justathought** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:12 pm

AP-375 wrote:
Justathought wrote:
AP-375 wrote:Is there a published schedule for Admitted Students Day? I'm trying to make baby plans...
Day Students: April 1st and April 29th.
Evening Students: March 23rd and April 19th.
Yes, but do they have a schedule of events on those days? thanks.

That, I do not see. The brief synopsis only mentions tours and meeting future classmates.

txsunshine · Post by **txsunshine** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:27 pm

Just got my scholarship info. with the admit package. $$ Quite compelling. Definitely leaning toward Dallas now

kalvano · Post by **kalvano** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:39 pm

I think my ASW day was:

9:00-ish - Breakfast in the quad
10:00-ish - Go listen to law professors and deans talk about how awesome they are - did you know SMU Law has 5 grads in the CEO Forbes Fortune 50 list? Even more than Harvard Business, motherfuckers. 5 grads - that's some real shit right there.
12:00-ish - Lunch
1:00-ish - Tour and stuff
2:00-ish - 5 goddamn grads in the Forbes Fortune 50 list. You best believe this shit is real.
3:00-ish - Dean Attanasio kicks ass at Con Law and will tell you so. Some sort of simulated class.

Then there was a dinner at about 6:00.

5 CEO's in the Fortune 50. That's right bitches. 5. More than Harvard Business School.

Justathought · Post by **Justathought** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:06 pm

kalvano wrote:I think my ASW day was:

9:00-ish - Breakfast in the quad
10:00-ish - Go listen to law professors and deans talk about how awesome they are - did you know SMU Law has 5 grads in the CEO Forbes Fortune 50 list? Even more than Harvard Business, motherfuckers. 5 grads - that's some real shit right there.
12:00-ish - Lunch
1:00-ish - Tour and stuff
2:00-ish - 5 goddamn grads in the Forbes Fortune 50 list. You best believe this shit is real.
3:00-ish - Dean Attanasio kicks ass at Con Law and will tell you so. Some sort of simulated class.

Then there was a dinner at about 6:00.

5 CEO's in the Fortune 50. That's right bitches. 5. More than Harvard Business School.

This is some high quality posting right here.

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