Tautology wrote:beef wellington wrote:Tautology wrote:beef wellington wrote:She's a blank slate, with a few troubling tea leaves, and even her supporters concede that she is to the right of Stevens. Why settle for a nominee that could backfire so horribly when the Democrats have 59 Senate seats?
They don't have 59 liberal seats, as the Health Care Bill demonstrated. Obama isn't particularly liberal, and many Democratic Senators are less liberal than he is. I think you have unrealistic expectations of what is possible. I'm not thrilled by her, being an unabashed liberal myself, but I don't think the votes are there for someone much more liberal than Kagan. Hell, some people thought Diane Wood might have trouble getting through, and the fight itself uses up political capital.
So settle then. This is what I'm talking about. The left is willing to eat an endless amount of shit spooned out by Obama and other Democrats, thereby ensuring their continued irrelevance. The right threw a fit and got themselves an unabashed conservative justice, the left will take whatever they're given and like it.
They won't all like it, but I think you're really overestimating how liberal the Democratic party is. They really aren't that liberal. Please, throw a fit and call your Senator and tell her to as well, but I think characterizing this as the left taking something they don't really want is unfair. The left is a lot more centrist than you are. The liberal Democrats do throw fits, they threw a fit about Health Care and wouldn't have gotten anything passed if they hadn't stopped throwing a temper tantrum and voted for something that wasn't perfect but still better than the status quo. I just don't think a true liberal judge is feasible in the current political climate, and blaming that on the liberal faction of the Democratic party just seems absurd.
No, I understand how conservative Obama and other nationally elected Democrats are, believe me. But where is it etched in stone that they get to constantly piss on their base and suffer no ill consequences for it?
If I understand the bolded correctly, you're contending that Obama's base is ideologically fine with him moving the Court to the right?