busted wrote:It is intellectually dishonest to say that Tex Wes grads or T4 grads have little or no employment opportunities.
Lol. I love that you get on your high horse and as a Tex Wes student claim "intellectual dishonesty" on those who warn against it, yet these garbage comparisons come out:
busted wrote:However, if you look at discussions of other schools, people have pretty much the same complaints (even at HYS)
Let's be intellectually honest here. No, HYS students don't really complain about the same problems (literally no real job traction through their career services), that T4 gutter school students do, now do they? Faulty comparison.
Not so. I recently spoke with a HLS 1L who was complaining about how useless he felt career services is and how bad their advice is. Take a look pretty much anywhere on the internet and you'll find people complaining about career services at whatever school they attend. (The youtube videos are a more entertaining way to see the criticism...) Similarly, you can look around and see people bemoaning every other aspect of their school. E.g. professors are jerks, student organizations serve as resume filler, dishonest employment data, etc. That doesn't mean that the students at HLS have the same degree of frustration with career services.
You edited out all of my actual point -- no law school is perfect, some schools are clearly better than others, going to a T4 school does not mean never finding a satisfactory job.
The only way you get around appreciating the legitimacy of my position -- which agrees with some of yours -- is to whitewash it with the tired belief that you must go to X level schools or better or you will never get a job or the more ridiculous position that people coming out of T3 and T4 schools are ruining employment opportunities for everybody.
busted wrote: There are many reasons to chose a different school for sure, but not even a HLS JD will guarantee you any job but a solo practice.
"Busted" again. Man Cooley would love you. Nobody really believes that a job is guaranteed through Harvard, epic straw man tactic right there my friend. But students certainly have a much better shot at their dream job if they work hard, and people understand this difference between Harvard and T4 bottom feeders. Ask yourself this question. How many top firms come to your school every year for OCI?
Um, you're saying the same thing I am saying. Chances of landing a biglaw job, many government jobs, high ranked firms, etc. are obviously much better at a higher ranked school than a T4 school. I mean, who's going to disagree with that??
Not everybody goes to law school intending to work in one of those roles. Lots of my classmates intend to work at small firms in the area. Those firms are ran by and filled with people who went to Tex Wes. They in turn hire out of our graduating classes. Some intend to solo practice. Some have positions secured by family members waiting for them when they graduate. They don't need to go to a better school.
Sure, students will succeed coming out of T4s, but those students usually have a real grasp about what they are up against when they come out of those schools. You my friend are not one of those people.
That's impressive that you were able to distill that out of a single post, especially considering not a word of it was in reference to myself or my expectations upon graduation. It's even more impressive considering that you completely missed the point of what I said above. But hey, I guess that's why all the big firms are clamoring for you, right?