Penn v. Berkeley...which one would you choose?

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HeavenWood
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Re: Penn v. Berkeley...which one would you choose?

Postby HeavenWood » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:48 am

vicuna wrote:FWIW, I go to Penn undergrad and would pick Boalt over Penn Law in a heartbeat.


For placement or environment?

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Re: Penn v. Berkeley...which one would you choose?

Postby vicuna » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:57 am

HeavenWood wrote:
vicuna wrote:FWIW, I go to Penn undergrad and would pick Boalt over Penn Law in a heartbeat.


For placement or environment?


I've enjoyed my four years here, but environment is a no-brainer. Part of this probably stems from wanting something new, but the Bay Area and the apparent collegial nature of the Boalt student body seem objectively preferable.

As far as placement goes, I have no desire for BigLaw and no particular preference for NYC (or Philly). Berkeley's LRAP and general public interest commitment are vastly superior to Penn. For clerkships/academia, it is probably a wash.

That said, if I was sold on NYC BigLaw (as many on TLS are) or if I had a longing for the Ivy mystique (thirst duly quenched), then Penn would look like a decent option.

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Re: Penn v. Berkeley...which one would you choose?

Postby r6_philly » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:03 am

vicuna wrote:I've enjoyed my four years here, but environment is a no-brainer. Part of this probably stems from wanting something new, but the Bay Area and the apparent collegial nature of the Boalt student body seem objectively preferable.


I don't have first hand experience since I didn't go to Penn UG but I feel that graduate students are quite different than the undergrads - since most grad students I know avoid the undergrads like the plague.

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Re: Penn v. Berkeley...which one would you choose?

Postby HeavenWood » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:06 am

r6_philly wrote:I don't have first hand experience since I didn't go to Penn UG but I feel that graduate students are quite different than the undergrads - since most grad students I know avoid the undergrads like the plague.


Don't grad students do that at most universities?

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Re: Penn v. Berkeley...which one would you choose?

Postby vicuna » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:11 am

r6_philly wrote:
vicuna wrote:I've enjoyed my four years here, but environment is a no-brainer. Part of this probably stems from wanting something new, but the Bay Area and the apparent collegial nature of the Boalt student body seem objectively preferable.


I don't have first hand experience since I didn't go to Penn UG but I feel that graduate students are quite different than the undergrads - since most grad students I know avoid the undergrads like the plague.


Completely fair point. Also, from talking to a few friends in the law school, it seems that the undergrads are more conservative (due to the specter of Wharton) than the law students.

Don't get me wrong. I love Penn and my classmates. Just not in love with Philly, especially compared with the Bay Area.
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Re: Penn v. Berkeley...which one would you choose?

Postby r6_philly » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:11 am

HeavenWood wrote:
r6_philly wrote:I don't have first hand experience since I didn't go to Penn UG but I feel that graduate students are quite different than the undergrads - since most grad students I know avoid the undergrads like the plague.


Don't grad students do that at most universities?


Perhaps :lol: I suspect at other grad schools a larger percentage of students also went to ug there.

But either way one shouldn't equate the atmosphere in ug with grad school. I do appreciate that all the social events we have exclusive to grad students (need grad ID to go). I don't know a single ug so far but I have met grad students from every school.

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Re: Penn v. Berkeley...which one would you choose?

Postby r6_philly » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:15 am

vicuna wrote:Completely fair point. Also, from talking to a few friends in the law school, it seems that the undergrads are more conservative (due to the specter of Wharton) than the law students.

Don't get me wrong. I love Penn. Just not in love with Philly, especially compared with the Bay Area.


Trust me I feel the same about Penn and Philly. Well I love Philly too, but it is a deep connection rather than anything I can really explain lol

I guess I am more defensive since my wife is a undergrad at Penn now haha. I really don't know what to expect from Penn Law, but I can continue to enjoy the rest of Penn and hang out with my friends which is a huge plus.

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Re: Penn v. Berkeley...which one would you choose?

Postby irishman86 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:35 am

vicuna wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:
vicuna wrote:FWIW, I go to Penn undergrad and would pick Boalt over Penn Law in a heartbeat.


For placement or environment?


I've enjoyed my four years here, but environment is a no-brainer. Part of this probably stems from wanting something new, but the Bay Area and the apparent collegial nature of the Boalt student body seem objectively preferable.

As far as placement goes, I have no desire for BigLaw and no particular preference for NYC (or Philly). Berkeley's LRAP and general public interest commitment are vastly superior to Penn. For clerkships/academia, it is probably a wash.

That said, if I was sold on NYC BigLaw (as many on TLS are) or if I had a longing for the Ivy mystique (thirst duly quenched), then Penn would look like a decent option.


Wow, good reasons. And they completely make sense, considering you ED'd to NYU...............wait, WUT?

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Re: Penn v. Berkeley...which one would you choose?

Postby vicuna » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:53 am

irishman86 wrote:
vicuna wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:
vicuna wrote:FWIW, I go to Penn undergrad and would pick Boalt over Penn Law in a heartbeat.


For placement or environment?


I've enjoyed my four years here, but environment is a no-brainer. Part of this probably stems from wanting something new, but the Bay Area and the apparent collegial nature of the Boalt student body seem objectively preferable.

As far as placement goes, I have no desire for BigLaw and no particular preference for NYC (or Philly). Berkeley's LRAP and general public interest commitment are vastly superior to Penn. For clerkships/academia, it is probably a wash.

That said, if I was sold on NYC BigLaw (as many on TLS are) or if I had a longing for the Ivy mystique (thirst duly quenched), then Penn would look like a decent option.


Wow, good reasons. And they completely make sense, considering you ED'd to NYU...............wait, WUT?


Ha, thanks for keeping up with me. As strong as Berkeley's institutional support for PI is, NYU's is better.

NYU hosts the Public Interest Legal Career Fair. It has strong Skadden placement.

If I ED'ed to, say, Columbia, you'd have a point.




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