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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby kittenmittons » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:18 pm

Illijah wrote:this would make a pretty good poll


which school has the most trolls

UVA, Chicago or ______

i still say Chicago....they blatantly move it 1-2 spots in all their lists for reasons unbeknownst to anyone


I honestly can't name a single Chicago troll besides the newly christened Kronk

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby Threepeat » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:19 pm

jerzgrl630 wrote:
Rocketman11 wrote:
jerzgrl630 wrote:
Rocketman11 wrote:
I've heard UGA is going to tank.


Why do you say that? I'm not challenging you but I'm really curious about it!


Before I answer, let me ask a necessary question: where are you applying?


Kind of all over the place, but I did apply to UGA and if I got in I would strongly consider going there. Again, just curious about why you say this.[/quote]

LULZ

Nobody tell them...

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby chadwick218 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:21 pm

MDPSteve wrote:
engineer wrote:
colemf wrote:Anyone know when they come out???


April


The current year subscription expires on April 13, 2010 so its def before then. I believe last year they came out in late March.


I thought they didn't come out until like 4/23?

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby Rand M. » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:26 pm

kittenmittons wrote:YH
SCC
NDMVCNPB


Did this move CC up? or S down?

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby DanInALionsDen » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:37 pm

miamiman wrote:When are ppl going to realize that usnwr is completely independent of reality/hiring/life outcomes?


Proof? Go ask an IUB 2L if their freshly minted t25 label has brought them any more firms/offices at oci.


No.

This is such a hard logic fail.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby stratocophic » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:39 pm

Illijah wrote:this would make a pretty good poll


which school has the most trolls

UVA[strike], Chicago[/strike] or Berkeley

i still say Chicago....they blatantly move it 1-2 spots in all their lists for reasons unbeknownst to anyone

ftfy. Don't spend much time on TLS, do you?

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby AngryAvocado » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:41 pm

Illijah wrote:this would make a pretty good poll


which school has the most trolls

UVA, Chicago or ______

i still say Chicago....they blatantly move it 1-2 spots in all their lists for reasons unbeknownst to anyone


It's tough to distinguish between Chicago trolling and just plain old-fashioned NYU bashing. The two are definitely related, but distinct, branches of trolling.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby dbt » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:43 pm

1. Yale
2. Harvard
2. Stanford
4. Columbia
4. NYU
6. Chicago
6. Berkeley
8. Penn
9. Virginia
9. Michigan
9. Northwestern
12. Duke
13. Cornell
14. UCLA

That's right bitches, I'm trolling the other way for NYU. Get ready.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby stratocophic » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:45 pm

AngryAvocado wrote:
Illijah wrote:this would make a pretty good poll


which school has the most trolls

UVA, Chicago or ______

i still say Chicago....they blatantly move it 1-2 spots in all their lists for reasons unbeknownst to anyone


It's tough to distinguish between Chicago trolling and just plain old-fashioned NYU bashing. The two are definitely related, but distinct, branches of trolling.

NYU bashing operates at a far higher level than Chicago trolling. No one wants to go watch fun die; it's more likely the fact that people hate hipsters, NYU = hipsters (I know, I know, the lawl school isn't overrun, but this is TLS. What'd you expect?), therefore people hate NYU.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby Rand M. » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:47 pm

Illijah wrote:i still say Chicago....they blatantly move it 1-2 spots in all their lists for reasons unbeknownst to anyone


I don't think they are unbeknown to ANYONE; some seem to know.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby ogman05 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:49 pm

stratocophic wrote:
Illijah wrote:this would make a pretty good poll


which school has the most trolls

UVA[strike], Chicago[/strike] or Berkeley

i still say Chicago....they blatantly move it 1-2 spots in all their lists for reasons unbeknownst to anyone

ftfy. Don't spend much time on TLS, do you?


Why havent you applied to northwestern. Thats your strongest shot.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby stratocophic » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:50 pm

DanInALionsDen wrote:
miamiman wrote:When are ppl going to realize that usnwr is completely independent of reality/hiring/life outcomes?


Proof? Go ask an IUB 2L if their freshly minted t25 label has brought them any more firms/offices at oci.


No.

This is such a hard logic fail.

As is assuming that the t25 label had any effect whatsoever during the 1st year in which the school was ranked that high.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby Illijah » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:50 pm

Okay that makes sense.....more NYU bashing than Chicago trolling.....its hard to distinguish sometimes....

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby stratocophic » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:51 pm

ogman05 wrote:
stratocophic wrote:
Illijah wrote:this would make a pretty good poll


which school has the most trolls

UVA[strike], Chicago[/strike] or Berkeley

i still say Chicago....they blatantly move it 1-2 spots in all their lists for reasons unbeknownst to anyone

ftfy. Don't spend much time on TLS, do you?


Why havent you applied to northwestern. Thats your strongest shot.

No WE, so they don't want me.

Edit: Also, I won't be heartbroken if I'm shut out of the T14. I don't fully expect it, but it's a distinct possibility if UM and GTown decide not to bite (Duke? With this GPA? Columbia? Without having spent years abroad as an international something or other?). I like WUSTL and expect good money from them, so I'll live if it happens. I'd rather be in St. Louis, Atlanta, or Nashville than Ithaca any day.
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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby Rocketman11 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:52 pm

I'll just be surprised if UGA is top-40

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby DanInALionsDen » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:58 pm

stratocophic wrote:
DanInALionsDen wrote:
miamiman wrote:When are ppl going to realize that usnwr is completely independent of reality/hiring/life outcomes?


Proof? Go ask an IUB 2L if their freshly minted t25 label has brought them any more firms/offices at oci.


No.

This is such a hard logic fail.

As is assuming that the t25 label had any effect whatsoever during the 1st year in which the school was ranked that high.


Are you agreeing with me then? My point is that the rankings are obviously not independent of reality/hiring/life outcomes. The only way they would be wholly removed from reality/hiring/life outcomes is if they were based on completely irrelevant criteria (Cooley rankings), and is judges, lawyers, and firms did not heed the rankings.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby stratocophic » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:08 pm

DanInALionsDen wrote:
stratocophic wrote:
DanInALionsDen wrote:
miamiman wrote:When are ppl going to realize that usnwr is completely independent of reality/hiring/life outcomes?


Proof? Go ask an IUB 2L if their freshly minted t25 label has brought them any more firms/offices at oci.


No.

This is such a hard logic fail.

As is assuming that the t25 label had any effect whatsoever during the 1st year in which the school was ranked that high.


Are you agreeing with me then? My point is that the rankings are obviously not independent of reality/hiring/life outcomes. The only way they would be wholly removed from reality/hiring/life outcomes is if they were based on completely irrelevant criteria (Cooley rankings), and is judges, lawyers, and firms did not heed the rankings.

Nope. The rankings are almost certainly independent of reality, at least in the short term. Or more accurately, reality is independent of the rankings in the short term. Maybe it did happen, but I sincerely doubt that IUB saw any non-negligible benefit from being ranked #25 this year. Next year, maybe. The year after that, even more likely. Legal hiring is a system that is unlikely to immediately react to smallish changes, but will almost certainly react to those changes given enough time.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby regatsrj » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:20 pm

Rocketman11 wrote:
yourdadcalled wrote:1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. NYU
6. Chicago
7. Berkeley
8. Michigan
Penn
10. Virginia
11. Duke
Northwestern
13. Cornell
14. Georgetown


You're not taking into account NYU's downward trend. I'd put them as 6 and Chicago at 5.


Oh whatever. Does anyone have that link to the US News Top 14 rankings since 1990? It shows NYU being 4 or 5 every year going back more than 10 years. Keep dreamin', Chicago troll.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby miamiman » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:22 pm

Apologies for some hyperbole. Usnwr is roughly refleftive of reality, though, again, the point is that these miniscule increases/decreases in rank amount to absolutely nothing important - at least nothing any student at that school would benefit from. Case in point: someone would be delusional to pick IUB over ND given rank. They'd be equally delsuional to think UT is a better school than UCLA if they broke their tie, especially if they wanted to end up in texas.

Rather than focus on usnwr, 0ls, imho, should be talking to 2ls at any school they are considering and find out what's happening on the ground.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby Rocketman11 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:22 pm

regatsrj wrote:
Oh whatever. Does anyone have that link to the US News Top 14 rankings since 1990? It shows NYU being 4 or 5 every year going back more than 10 years. Keep dreamin', Chicago troll.


I've actually decided not to go to law school in lieu of my acceptance to a masters program that better suits my career path. As Badfish said earlier in this thread, I don't have a horse in the raise. I'm just a neutral observer.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby gymboree » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:24 pm

yourdadcalled wrote:1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. NYU
6. Chicago
7. Berkeley
8. Michigan
Penn
10. Virginia
11. Duke
Northwestern
13. Cornell
14. Georgetown


kittenmittons wrote:YH
SCC
NDMVCNPB


blatant anti-Berk trolling!

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby stratocophic » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:26 pm

gymboree wrote:
yourdadcalled wrote:1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. NYU
6. Chicago
7. Berkeley
8. Michigan
Penn
10. Virginia
11. Duke
Northwestern
13. Cornell
14. Georgetown


kittenmittons wrote:YH
SCC
NDMVCNPB


blatant anti-Berk trolling!

Reality's trollin' on Boalt :wink:

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby women'ssoccer » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:27 pm

will someone clear up the predicted UGA fall?

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby oneforship » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:32 pm

I really want to be a trial lawyer, does anyone have any predictions for the next USNWR ranking of trial advocacy programs?

Thanks.

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Re: The new U.S. News rankings????

Postby kittenmittons » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:33 pm

women'ssoccer wrote:will someone clear up the predicted UGA fall?


UGA will get Sherman-pwned in the rankings.




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