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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby usuaggie » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:37 pm

make what you will of this, but UNLV is removing the business law minor from undergrad

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby Vegas_Rebel » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:45 pm

usuaggie wrote:make what you will of this, but UNLV is removing the business law minor from undergrad


I wouldn't make too much of that (and I'm a Business Law minor!)

It's a fairly new program, and the word from the business college (or at least my professor within) is that they didn't like non-business majors taking business law minors. Apparently the business college is expensive, and liberal arts students like me taking up 'valuable' business professor seats had their panties in a bunch. Even without the budget cuts, they were going to restrict business law to accounting students and cut several of the course offerings entirely.

The bigger OMGWTF is that they're cutting departments entirely, and it's possible that philosophy will be one of those departments. I should know more today.

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby roguey » Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:30 pm

Vegas_Rebel wrote:
usuaggie wrote:make what you will of this, but UNLV is removing the business law minor from undergrad


I wouldn't make too much of that (and I'm a Business Law minor!)

It's a fairly new program, and the word from the business college (or at least my professor within) is that they didn't like non-business majors taking business law minors. Apparently the business college is expensive, and liberal arts students like me taking up 'valuable' business professor seats had their panties in a bunch. Even without the budget cuts, they were going to restrict business law to accounting students and cut several of the course offerings entirely.

The bigger OMGWTF is that they're cutting departments entirely, and it's possible that philosophy will be one of those departments. I should know more today.

I was going to ask who is who on the facebook page so we can start getting to know each other... but I go into crisis mode every time I open this thread because you guys always have something new to make me worried about Las Vegas and freak out about finding somewhere else to go :( Damnit Nevada, quit being broke!

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby Vegas_Rebel » Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:38 pm

roguey wrote:I was going to ask who is who on the facebook page so we can start getting to know each other... but I go into crisis mode every time I open this thread because you guys always have something new to make me worried about Las Vegas and freak out about finding somewhere else to go :( Damnit Nevada, quit being broke!


I'll out myself since I've already submitted my seat deposit: I'm John Niman :)

Also: NV's brokeness and UNLV's problems in general are unlikely to affect the law program, because the law program is largely privately funded by grants. While a worst case scenario of the UNLV UG as a whole folding would probably affect the USNWR rankings for the Law School, it is unlikely to actually put the Law School in danger if also closing its doors. To some extent, as long as Boyd remains a T2 school, I don't see that it would be incredibly affected by dropping to T3 or T4.

My point is simply this: I wouldn't worry too much about the Boyd School of Law being forced to close its doors. The whole of the Las Vegas legal community wants it to succeed, and will pay out of pocket whatever isn't granted by the state.

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby roguey » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:04 pm

Vegas_Rebel wrote:
roguey wrote:I was going to ask who is who on the facebook page so we can start getting to know each other... but I go into crisis mode every time I open this thread because you guys always have something new to make me worried about Las Vegas and freak out about finding somewhere else to go :( Damnit Nevada, quit being broke!


I'll out myself since I've already submitted my seat deposit: I'm John Niman :)

Also: NV's brokeness and UNLV's problems in general are unlikely to affect the law program, because the law program is largely privately funded by grants. While a worst case scenario of the UNLV UG as a whole folding would probably affect the USNWR rankings for the Law School, it is unlikely to actually put the Law School in danger if also closing its doors. To some extent, as long as Boyd remains a T2 school, I don't see that it would be incredibly affected by dropping to T3 or T4.

My point is simply this: I wouldn't worry too much about the Boyd School of Law being forced to close its doors. The whole of the Las Vegas legal community wants it to succeed, and will pay out of pocket whatever isn't granted by the state.

Hahaha. You actually friend requested me today! I just accepted. I'm worried about it dropping in the rankings, sadly enough, but I'm also worried about the Nevada economy as a whole. I don't think it will have to close, but I don't want to go into a school while it is a T2 and graduate with it a T4 with no job prospects... I'm also paranoid :)

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby Nat1018 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:23 pm

Hi Vegas_rebel, did you say a while back that unlv would be sending us an email about the state of the financial crisis and how it would affect the law school? Do you have an idea of when we should be expecting that?

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby Vegas_Rebel » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:32 pm

roguey wrote:Hahaha. You actually friend requested me today! I just accepted. I'm worried about it dropping in the rankings, sadly enough, but I'm also worried about the Nevada economy as a whole. I don't think it will have to close, but I don't want to go into a school while it is a T2 and graduate with it a T4 with no job prospects... I'm also paranoid :)


Woo :)

I don't think that, T2 or T4, the job prospects coming out of Boyd are going to be significantly different. We will still place well in Las Vegas, and NV as a whole, decently regionally, and fairly poorly nationally.

I'd think very carefully about going to UNLV if you want to practice anywhere other than NV, at least initially. It's a regional school at the best of times, with other roughly equivalent or better schools in neighboring states. The ranking is unlikely to affect UNLV placement in state, and only begins to seriously affect out of state placement relative to those other schools. CA, NM, AZ, and UT are in similar budgetary dire straits.

The NV legal market will pick back up. As anywhere else, there is a decent amount of legal work happening right now (commercial real estate, in particular, is doing decent business in some fields even if people aren't buying houses) and it seems to me that the amount of legal work is more properly envisioned as shifting around different practice areas as opposed to 'more' or 'less' overall.

Ultimately, the benefit and downside to working in NV, and Vegas in particular, is that we, as a city, have tied ourselves to tourism in a particularly singular way. As the rest of the country rebounds the tourism will pick back up, and Vegas will begin to thrive again. At that point, the work being done by bankruptcy and other 'down side' attorneys now will wane and those involved in buying new property and merging companies will pick back up.

Nat: I would expect some answer in the next month or so. The budgetary impact is still being worked out. That said, it's liable to have an impact on the administrative and service portions of the law school (librarians, financial aid officers, maybe career services people) more than the professors and programs. Don't take that as the gospel truth just yet though.

To answer the concern I posed about the philosophy department earlier: It looks like the philosophy department is NOT slated to be cut at the moment. That's subject to change before the final revision, but it's OK for now.

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby roguey » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:48 pm

Vegas_Rebel wrote:
roguey wrote:Hahaha. You actually friend requested me today! I just accepted. I'm worried about it dropping in the rankings, sadly enough, but I'm also worried about the Nevada economy as a whole. I don't think it will have to close, but I don't want to go into a school while it is a T2 and graduate with it a T4 with no job prospects... I'm also paranoid :)


Woo :)

I don't think that, T2 or T4, the job prospects coming out of Boyd are going to be significantly different. We will still place well in Las Vegas, and NV as a whole, decently regionally, and fairly poorly nationally.

I'd think very carefully about going to UNLV if you want to practice anywhere other than NV, at least initially. It's a regional school at the best of times, with other roughly equivalent or better schools in neighboring states. The ranking is unlikely to affect UNLV placement in state, and only begins to seriously affect out of state placement relative to those other schools. CA, NM, AZ, and UT are in similar budgetary dire straits.

The NV legal market will pick back up. As anywhere else, there is a decent amount of legal work happening right now (commercial real estate, in particular, is doing decent business in some fields even if people aren't buying houses) and it seems to me that the amount of legal work is more properly envisioned as shifting around different practice areas as opposed to 'more' or 'less' overall.

Ultimately, the benefit and downside to working in NV, and Vegas in particular, is that we, as a city, have tied ourselves to tourism in a particularly singular way. As the rest of the country rebounds the tourism will pick back up, and Vegas will begin to thrive again. At that point, the work being done by bankruptcy and other 'down side' attorneys now will wane and those involved in buying new property and merging companies will pick back up.

Nat: I would expect some answer in the next month or so. The budgetary impact is still being worked out. That said, it's liable to have an impact on the administrative and service portions of the law school (librarians, financial aid officers, maybe career services people) more than the professors and programs. Don't take that as the gospel truth just yet though.

To answer the concern I posed about the philosophy department earlier: It looks like the philosophy department is NOT slated to be cut at the moment. That's subject to change before the final revision, but it's OK for now.

I'm not terribly worried, to be honest. I keep reminding myself that Vegas will give me everything I want. I'm about 95% positive that I will be going into immigration law. From what I've seen, jobs in immigration law are usually based on what you know, not where you went. Just FINDING the laws and decisions that apply in a case is difficult, nevermind the amount of picky details that cause the differences between cases. I'm planning on using my student loans to buy up cheap ass houses and rent them to pay for the one we live in. Anyway, the point of that is, I'm really not too worried. I'm mostly worried about my fiancee finding a job. He currently works at a call center, and he is thinking he will have to go back to bar-tending, that is, if he can find a job. We wanted to open a catering business where he only uses local meat and produce (within 100 miles) and specializes in unique dietary requirements (veggie/vegan/raw/gluten-free). I doubt that will happen in Vegas, lol.

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby BruinsFan » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:51 pm

roguey wrote:I'm not terribly worried, to be honest. I keep reminding myself that Vegas will give me everything I want. I'm about 95% positive that I will be going into immigration law. From what I've seen, jobs in immigration law are usually based on what you know, not where you went. Just FINDING the laws and decisions that apply in a case is difficult, nevermind the amount of picky details that cause the differences between cases. I'm planning on using my student loans to buy up cheap ass houses and rent them to pay for the one we live in. Anyway, the point of that is, I'm really not too worried. I'm mostly worried about my fiancee finding a job. He currently works at a call center, and he is thinking he will have to go back to bar-tending, that is, if he can find a job. We wanted to open a catering business where he only uses local meat and produce (within 100 miles) and specializes in unique dietary requirements (veggie/vegan/raw/gluten-free). I doubt that will happen in Vegas, lol.


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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby yo! » Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:46 pm

Nat1018 wrote:Hi Vegas_rebel, did you say a while back that unlv would be sending us an email about the state of the financial crisis and how it would affect the law school? Do you have an idea of when we should be expecting that?


I said that, but they don't seem to have come through yet. Hopefully soon........Please keep updated vegas_rebel, the lack of information is really stressing me out :shock:

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby yo! » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:28 pm

I stumbled upon this article and thought it was pretty interesting. Not really applicable to any of our situations, (yet at least) but worth a read if you are bored.....

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/ju ... law-firms/

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby jackdaw » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:05 pm

UNLV is a good school and if your choices are between schools in the 50-100 area then I think you should be comfortable with your decision to attend. The economy everywhere is jacked, and as someone already mentioned on this board, Vegas depends largely on tourism for jobs (construction for casinos, gaming dollars, entertainment, etc...) so when the nation's economy rights itself, Vegas' will too.

The community is very involved in the Law School and I doubt funding will take much of a hit. William S. Boyd threw down 25M to start us up if that gives you any idea. If you go here though, do plan on largely working in vegas unless you have connections elsewhere. Our reputation in state is fantastic, but we're an unknown quantity in other states that already have their established law schools.

Everyone I know who isn't a total putz has a job lined up, are we all working in some megafirm billing 2100 hours a year, no.

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby Nat1018 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:14 pm

Has anyone had any luck getting UNLV to extend their seat deposit/notification deadline?

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby yo! » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:23 pm

Nat1018 wrote:Has anyone had any luck getting UNLV to extend their seat deposit/notification deadline?


I'll probably just pay the 500 and lose it if I end up somewhere else...

Jackdaw: Thanks for the insight. If you don't mind, please stick around for a few days. I'm sure we all have tons of questions (you seem to be the only boyd student on here).

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby yo! » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:59 am

Has anyone filled out the UNLV scholarship application on their website? The red paper that comes with your acceptance letter tells you to do it, but is it even worth filling out?

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby Vegas_Rebel » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:43 am

yo! wrote:Has anyone filled out the UNLV scholarship application on their website? The red paper that comes with your acceptance letter tells you to do it, but is it even worth filling out?


I'd do it.

I've received a sizable amount of scholarship money through the UNLV Financial Aid office that I never needed to apply for (as an undergrad, of course.) It's always nice opening the mail and seeing that they dropped another couple thousand dollars your way.

It's a pretty simple form, and doesn't cost anything. Go for it.

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby yo! » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:22 pm

Vegas_Rebel wrote:
yo! wrote:Has anyone filled out the UNLV scholarship application on their website? The red paper that comes with your acceptance letter tells you to do it, but is it even worth filling out?


I'd do it.

I've received a sizable amount of scholarship money through the UNLV Financial Aid office that I never needed to apply for (as an undergrad, of course.) It's always nice opening the mail and seeing that they dropped another couple thousand dollars your way.

It's a pretty simple form, and doesn't cost anything. Go for it.


Okay, I feel like a dumbass here, but how the hell do I actually fill this thing out? When I go to the http://financialaid.unlv.edu/ site, it seems like everything directs you towards the FAFSA website. I already filled out the FAFSA like a month ago, so I just need to find the form for the UNLV scholarship application. Anyone wanna send me a link?

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby Charles Barkley » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:25 pm

Withdrawing today with money.

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby Zoomba200 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:30 pm

Charles Barkley wrote:Withdrawing today with money.


Where are you headed Charles?

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby Charles Barkley » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:33 pm

Zoomba200 wrote:
Charles Barkley wrote:Withdrawing today with money.


Where are you headed Charles?

I'm not quite sure yet. Considering Tulane, Arizona, San Diego, and Miami.

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby Vegas_Rebel » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:05 am

yo! wrote:Okay, I feel like a dumbass here, but how the hell do I actually fill this thing out? When I go to the http://financialaid.unlv.edu/ site, it seems like everything directs you towards the FAFSA website. I already filled out the FAFSA like a month ago, so I just need to find the form for the UNLV scholarship application. Anyone wanna send me a link?


It's buried in there within forms, but I'm pretty sure this is what you want.

Also, best of luck Charles!

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby Charles Barkley » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:18 am

Vegas_Rebel wrote:
yo! wrote:Okay, I feel like a dumbass here, but how the hell do I actually fill this thing out? When I go to the http://financialaid.unlv.edu/ site, it seems like everything directs you towards the FAFSA website. I already filled out the FAFSA like a month ago, so I just need to find the form for the UNLV scholarship application. Anyone wanna send me a link?


It's buried in there within forms, but I'm pretty sure this is what you want.

Also, best of luck Charles!

Thanks man. Enjoy UNLV. Are you from Nevada?

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby Vegas_Rebel » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:29 am

Charles Barkley wrote:Thanks man. Enjoy UNLV. Are you from Nevada?


Sure thing :)

Technically I'm not (I wasn't born here) but it's my 'hometown' more than anywhere else (I've lived here longer, in various spurts, than anywhere else.)

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby ddav87 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:46 am

Ok so I'm going nuts as UNLV is my first choice and the only school that hasn't gotten back to me. (160 3.1) I've gotten into similar ranked schools, however I'm out of state and i know that makes it much harder. LSN seems to show that most people didn't have to wait this long. ( I applied in October) Why are this year's acceptances coming so slow? is it just the economy or does anyone have some added insight from talking to admissions? If you can answer any of these questions it would be awesome. :)

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Re: UNLV 2010 waiting room.....

Postby yo! » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:48 am

Vegas_Rebel wrote:
Charles Barkley wrote:Thanks man. Enjoy UNLV. Are you from Nevada?


Sure thing :)

Technically I'm not (I wasn't born here) but it's my 'hometown' more than anywhere else (I've lived here longer, in various spurts, than anywhere else.)


Damn VR, you are a life saver! BTW, After seeing pics of you, I am pretty sure that I was sitting right next to you at the ASD presentation....




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