s0ph1e2007 wrote:reasonabledoubt wrote:I'll say this because there is no Princeton Law School. I have several friends that went to Princeton for undergrad. I did not. Here's what they told me about their undergraduate experience: Sure, there were a select few truly brilliant, bright kids. Most were not of this kind. Most came from somewhat privileged to extremely privileged backgrounds and once away from home did a MOUNTAIN of drugs throughout their 4, sometimes 5 years. They got through it because, from what I was told, it wasn't that intensive from an academic point of view and there were several more fluffy majors to choose from. It's not all vigorous scholarship, class and decorum in those IVY leagues, you know.
Here's what I think about a poor kid who went to a state or no-name college and pulled a 3.7-4.0.... they're hungry. Add a high LSAT to that and you tell me if the "snob appeal" of your undergraduate institution would still matter.
It is hard for me to understand why people so clearly unable to reason well want to go to law school.
You think an Ivy League education is fluff because your princeton friends told you so? I would imagine they were telling you that so that you would not feel inferior. So what you should have learned from this is that you have nice friends not that ivy leauge schools are easy, which is clearly untrue.
A GPA from an ivy league school is going to have a greater weight than a similar gpa from an easier school. Every T-14 admission officer will tell you that when they see a 3.5 from Ohio State and a 3.5 from Harvard, they believe in the very least (ignoring any assumptions of intelligence) that the Harvard student worked harder.
No need to call me out on being an ivy leauge student. I admit that, but that does not prevent my point from being unbiased.
With the amount of grade inflation going on in the ivy league, I'm not so sure all the ivies are harder than the top public schools. The mean GPA at Harvard is 3.45, Cornell is 3.36, Columbia is 3.42. lllinois is 3.19, Wisconsin is 3.2, Georgia Tech is 3.07.
Private schools on average, are .3 higher than public schools.
There is already a boost built in. A significant one.
I'm not sure about what happens in the northeast, but in my high school in the richer area of the Chicago suburbs, almost no one even applied to Ivy league schools. Most of the top of the class went to a flagship state school. The one girl, in my year, who went to Cornell, was lower ranked than me, and was in none of the AP classes.
While I don't doubt the average ivy league student is better than the top public schools, it's not a night at day difference.
And I'll put the graduating class at UIUC electrical engineering against any class in the country. Ok well MIT is probably better.