rayiner wrote:SolarWind wrote:Again, if a student has a 3.4 at HYP that means he's Median (i.e. lets say right in the middle).
You're telling me that someone who got into HYP, and then did as well as at least half of all the other students there, would do worse at OSU just cause there are more Cs,Ds, and Fs???
I think you and Rayiner usually are spot on, but in this... its just not realistic.
I know tons of people at HYPS. Heck, I have a bunch here at NU as classmates. They're smart, but the rigor of the schools is not so different that someone who only did median at HYPS would necessarily be top 5-10% (which is what 3.8+ corresponds to) at a top state school.
Again, if HYPS kids were being so unfairly slighted in admissions, you'd think they'd consistently wind up at the top of the class in law school. Looking at 10 random people from our Law Review, you've got 1 person from HYPS, 1 person from a top LAC, and 8 people who went to everything from University of New Mexico to Duke. That is actually pretty much just the distribution of undergraduate institutions we have...
I dunno, maybe i'm just underestimating rigor at top state schools. I think they're awesome schools, but when you have 15,000 students, its not that hard to hit top 10%. I took classes at one of the top state schools in high school, and as long as you avoid crazy professors, it mainly requires just sustained effort and some smarts to get As.
Also, law school =/= college. I think its much, much easier to do well in college than to do well in law school. And the point is HYPS kids ARE NOT slighted in anyway whatsoever in admissions. I think like 20-30% (higher for Y actually) of HYS come from HYPS.