I made it into my "REACH"

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby gatorlion » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:57 pm

englawyer wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
englawyer wrote:
gatorlion wrote:
A 176 does not make you a reach ANYWHERE, regardless of what LSP says. You will probably get in everywhere you apply, with a random result from among HYS depending on your softs. UGH!


this is wrong. HYS like GPAs too and they will not stoop too low to get a 176+ scorer. LSN has evidence of this. H is the most LSAT friendly of the three and even they have a GPA floor of 3.65 or so.

i would call a reach anything that you have a 20-50% acceptance chance, anything less than that is a hail mary.


50% is a target. Under 20% is a reach.


How about you let us all know which school among HYS you were granted admission to at the end of the cycle so you can prove once again how schools are willing to overlook mediocre performance in UG in light of a test taken on a single Saturday morning. I'd probably put $$ on you getting a free ride to a top 10 law school with a 176.

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby Katerina » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:03 pm

gatorlion wrote:
How about you let us all know which school among HYS you were granted admission to at the end of the cycle so you can prove once again how schools are willing to overlook mediocre performance in UG in light of a test taken on a single Saturday morning. I'd probably put $$ on you getting a free ride to a top 10 law school with a 176.


Why are you getting so upset about this? You disagree, we get it, move on.

Let's get back to the purpose of this thread- people sharing their success stories :mrgreen:

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby 09042014 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:20 pm

gatorlion wrote:
englawyer wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
englawyer wrote:
this is wrong. HYS like GPAs too and they will not stoop too low to get a 176+ scorer. LSN has evidence of this. H is the most LSAT friendly of the three and even they have a GPA floor of 3.65 or so.

i would call a reach anything that you have a 20-50% acceptance chance, anything less than that is a hail mary.


50% is a target. Under 20% is a reach.


How about you let us all know which school among HYS you were granted admission to at the end of the cycle so you can prove once again how schools are willing to overlook mediocre performance in UG in light of a test taken on a single Saturday morning. I'd probably put $$ on you getting a free ride to a top 10 law school with a 176.


Are you talking to me or EngLawyer? Because no T10 would take a 2.8 from a non URM, let alone giving a free ride. I'm in at Northwestern, and I'm 99.9999% sure I'm paying sticker. Do I deserve it? Probably not. I wouldn't get into a T10 engineering program, probably not even top 100. I was a mediocre (less than mediocre, I was just at the bottom third) engineering major at a great school. But I'll tell you that I could have worked less and taken a different major and done much better GPA wise. Maybe I should have. Though I admit I wouldn't have gotten over a 3.6 since that's what my non math science and engineering GPA was.

If you are talking to EngLawyer, he is getting HYS, and he deserves it. 3.9 and a great LSAT. And I don't want to be presumptuous but his name suggests he did engineering. A 3.9 in engineering is insane. He deserves Yale.

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby gatorlion » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:25 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
gatorlion wrote:
englawyer wrote:
i would call a reach anything that you have a 20-50% acceptance chance, anything less than that is a hail mary.


50% is a target. Under 20% is a reach.


How about you let us all know which school among HYS you were granted admission to at the end of the cycle so you can prove once again how schools are willing to overlook mediocre performance in UG in light of a test taken on a single Saturday morning. I'd probably put $$ on you getting a free ride to a top 10 law school with a 176.[/quote]

Are you talking to me or EngLawyer? Because no T10 would take a 2.8 from a non URM, let alone giving a free ride. I'm in at Northwestern, and I'm 99.9999% sure I'm paying sticker. Do I deserve it? Probably not. I wouldn't get into a T10 engineering program, probably not even top 100. I was a mediocre (less than mediocre, I was just at the bottom third) engineering major at a great school. But I'll tell you that I could have worked less and taken a different major and done much better GPA wise. Maybe I should have. Though I admit I wouldn't have gotten over a 3.6 since that's what my non math science and engineering GPA was.

If you are talking to EngLawyer, he is getting HYS, and he deserves it. 3.9 and a great LSAT. And I don't want to be presumptuous but his name suggests he did engineering. A 3.9 in engineering is insane. He deserves Yale.[/quote]

I was actually referring to WrappedUpInBooks

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby Lurkster » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:29 pm

I really wish that a 176 was as much of a magic bullet as some people believe it to be.

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby traehekat » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:30 pm

Lesson learned from this thread - apply ED!

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby eljay » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:33 pm

but be wary of binding ED!

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby ughOSU » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:50 pm

Desert Fox wrote:If you are talking to EngLawyer, he is getting HYS, and he deserves it. 3.9 and a great LSAT. And I don't want to be presumptuous but his name suggests he did engineering. A 3.9 in engineering is insane. He deserves Yale.

lol I always read his name as a truncated version of "England/English-lawyer".

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby englawyer » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:51 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
If you are talking to EngLawyer, he is getting HYS, and he deserves it. 3.9 and a great LSAT. And I don't want to be presumptuous but his name suggests he did engineering. A 3.9 in engineering is insane. He deserves Yale.


Thanks for the kind words! I was an engineering major and also worked as an engineer for a while before becoming disillusioned. Hopefully we engineering folks will do great in LS.

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby Kiersten1985 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:52 pm

ughOSU wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:If you are talking to EngLawyer, he is getting HYS, and he deserves it. 3.9 and a great LSAT. And I don't want to be presumptuous but his name suggests he did engineering. A 3.9 in engineering is insane. He deserves Yale.

lol I always read his name as a truncated version of "England/English-lawyer".


I did too haha

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby gatorlion » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:56 pm

Lurkster wrote:I really wish that a 176 was as much of a magic bullet as some people believe it to be.


It is. You can laugh all the way to the bank when you get $$$ at just about every school.

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby Lurkster » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:31 pm

sharthree wrote:Update

3.5; 160
In at Chicago, NYU, Cornell, UVA, Illinois, Villanova.

URM


Kudos to you on an absolutely amazing cycle so far.

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby fl0w » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:36 pm

sharthree wrote:G.P.A (3.4) LSAT (160)
URM: Yes--African American/Native American
Reach: NYU, UVA, Illinois, Cornell, GMU, CHICAGO

Optional Essays: No.

What got me in: I've been told by all admissions offices that my personal statement and diversity statements were above average. I also had a very good LOR.


you're basically like my beacon of hope while I'm waiting for decisions. congrats!

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby devilishangelrjp » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:36 pm

fl0w wrote:
sharthree wrote:G.P.A (3.4) LSAT (160)
URM: Yes--African American/Native American
Reach: NYU, UVA, Illinois, Cornell, GMU, CHICAGO

Optional Essays: No.

What got me in: I've been told by all admissions offices that my personal statement and diversity statements were above average. I also had a very good LOR.


you're basically like my beacon of hope while I'm waiting for decisions. congrats!


+1

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby englawyer » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:37 pm

Kiersten1985 wrote:
ughOSU wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:If you are talking to EngLawyer, he is getting HYS, and he deserves it. 3.9 and a great LSAT. And I don't want to be presumptuous but his name suggests he did engineering. A 3.9 in engineering is insane. He deserves Yale.

lol I always read his name as a truncated version of "England/English-lawyer".


I did too haha


i will post full stats/softs/etc after my cycle. trying to preserve a semblance of anonymity just in case. :lol:

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby crackberry » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:39 pm

gatorlion wrote:
Lurkster wrote:I really wish that a 176 was as much of a magic bullet as some people believe it to be.


It is. You can laugh all the way to the bank when you get $$$ at just about every school.

176 doesn't mean shit at HYS if you're a non-URM with a sub-3.7. Just ask baiailan - held at HLS with a 180. How's that for a magic bullet?

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby 09042014 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:54 pm

Lurkster wrote:I really wish that a 176 was as much of a magic bullet as some people believe it to be.


+1233094239720342049203!

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby CoaltoNewCastle » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:03 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Lurkster wrote:I really wish that a 176 was as much of a magic bullet as some people believe it to be.


+1233094239720342049203!


Yeah, seriously. I have a 3.77/179 and I'm nervous about HLS. I think there's no way BaiAllen isn't getting in though. If my GPA were 3.65 though, Harvard might be a reach for me. At 3.5 it would definitely be a reach.

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby gatorlion » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:43 pm

crackberry wrote:
gatorlion wrote:
Lurkster wrote:I really wish that a 176 was as much of a magic bullet as some people believe it to be.


It is. You can laugh all the way to the bank when you get $$$ at just about every school.

176 doesn't mean shit at HYS if you're a non-URM with a sub-3.7. Just ask baiailan - held at HLS with a 180. How's that for a magic bullet?


I'm guessing something must have gone horribly awry with the application.

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby Veyron » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:47 pm

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby gatorlion » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:49 pm

Veyron wrote:School: NYU (FUCK YAH!)
#'s LSAT at median, GPA around 25%
Reason: Not enough Jews in NYC, NYU was willing to take a hit to pick one up :D.
Also unconventional background, stellar sots, STRONG upward grade trend, very strong LOR’s and a kickass PS. Basically, every component of application but GPA was spot on.

Also, it horrifies that some 3.0 160's got in. You guys better be Rhodes Scholars. Or flames, I really hope you are flames. Actually, I really hope you are for real, this should help my class rank a great deal.


Stellar softs = Rhodes Scholar/PhD/Grammy

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby Lurkster » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:49 pm

Veyron wrote:Also, it horrifies that some 3.0 160's got in. You guys better be Rhodes Scholars. Or flames, I really hope you are flames. Actually, I really hope you are for real, this should help my class rank a great deal.


I'll go get my popcorn ready

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby 09042014 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:53 pm

Veyron wrote:School: NYU (FUCK YAH!)
#'s LSAT at median, GPA around 25%
Reason: Not enough Jews in NYC, NYU was willing to take a hit to pick one up :D.
Also unconventional background, stellar sots, STRONG upward grade trend, very strong LOR’s and a kickass PS. Basically, every component of application but GPA was spot on.

Also, it horrifies that some 3.0 160's got in. You guys better be Rhodes Scholars. Or flames, I really hope you are flames. Actually, I really hope you are for real, this should help my class rank a great deal.


I think you should be just about the last to talk.

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Re: I made it into my "REACH"

Postby Veyron » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:54 pm

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